Issue with Intel

[StartingPCBuiilder]

Hey, I'm a complete beginner so this question may be really basic, but what's the reason why Intel gets thrown to the side? Because I've heard from some it's price, but I can get a solid discount on Intel products which knocks them down to a pretty good price. Are there any horrendous issues with them that make AMD the obvious choice?

[Dutch_Master]

Intel 13 and 14th gen CPU's are known to kill themselves under certain circumstances. Plus AMD Ryzen has better performance for less power -> less heat.

 

Intel GPU's are improving over generations and a viable option for those on somewhat of a budget.

[Hinjima]

11 minutes ago, StartingPCBuiilder said:

Hey, I'm a complete beginner so this question may be really basic, but what's the reason why Intel gets thrown to the side? Because I've heard from some it's price, but I can get a solid discount on Intel products which knocks them down to a pretty good price. Are there any horrendous issues with them that make AMD the obvious choice?

They are just not competitive in the gaming market anymore, the main focus of most people when it comes to AMD vs Intel.

AMD absolutely crushes intel with their X3D CPU's and even budget offerings like a 7600/x are solid options from AMD.

Check this picture here from Hardware Unboxed, Yes we are running at 1080p Medium to stress the CPU the most with an RTX 5090.

Almost 100fps more on average with a 9800X3D? Here in Norway its only 70 dollars more expensive than a 265k.

The 265k does have more cores so it will be better in productivity of course. Intel isn't all bad, just mostly.

 

I have had intel for decades, my first AMD CPU was actually a 7700x and I now own a 9800X3D.

I'm a gamer and I am not even looking at Intels newer CPU's at the moment, they just dont do the trick.

Intels 13th and 14th gen have been known to die and the power draw is a lot more than competing AMD CPU's.

 

I really hope Intel can fight back, we need competition in the market.

We know Intel is working on their own X3D 3DV-Cache CPU's for 2026/2027.

[StartingPCBuiilder]

Oh wow, well damn alright then.

[StartingPCBuiilder]

Holy crap that is decimation

[Hinjima]

5 minutes ago, StartingPCBuiilder said:

Holy crap that is decimation

Indeed it is!  It will be less at 1440p or 4k with higher settings of course but you get the idea.

For Gaming, Intel ain't even an option anymore! Unless you are in the budget market then a Intel 12400F is actually a solid deal.

 

This is a pretty decent video that also have a great summary from 12:40 and onwards.

Keep in mind that the Ryzen 7000 series of CPU are a few years old at this point.

As is the Intel 13th and 14th gen.

[StartingPCBuiilder]

13 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Indeed it is!  It will be less at 1440p or 4k with higher settings of course but you get the idea.

For Gaming, Intel ain't even an option anymore! Unless you are in the budget market then a Intel 12400F is actually a solid deal.

 

This is a pretty decent video that also have a great summary from 12:40 and onwards.

Keep in mind that the Ryzen 7000 series of CPU are a few years old at this point.

As is the Intel 13th and 14th gen.

Damn. Well thank you, I will keep that in mind! I will say, in the US the 9800X3D is INSANELY expensive, and with the employee discount Intel gives it costs 300 dollars more

[Hinjima]

1 minute ago, StartingPCBuiilder said:

Damn. Well thank you, I will keep that in mind! I will say, in the US the 9800X3D is INSANELY expensive, and with the employee discount Intel gives it costs 300 dollars more

The 9800X3D is top of the line from AMD and is not for everyone, it IS very expensive. 

It was just to show one of AMD's gaming CPU's VS one of Intels latest offerings.

AMD even have a 9950X3D, twice the core count of a 9800X3D.

 

You can expect decent performance from Intel still but you can keep a Ryzen 7700x/9600x in mind for example if all you do is gaming.  You can see the performance difference in the video linked above

It also depends on what CPU from intel you are looking at and what use case you will be using it for.

A 13700k or 14700k will still game quite well and if the price is right it might be the best bet!
Keep in mind that Intel have had degredation issues with 13th and 14th gen CPU's.

 

 

I will reply tomorrow. Its 2:30 AM and I need sleep.

[StartingPCBuiilder]

2 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

The 9800X3D is top of the line from AMD and is not for everyone, it IS very expensive. 

It was just to show one of AMD's gaming CPU's VS one of Intels latest offerings.

AMD even have a 9950X3D, twice the core count of a 9800X3D.

 

You can expect decent performance from Intel still but you can keep a Ryzen 7700x/9600x in mind for example if all you do is gaming.  You can see the performance difference in the video linked above

It also depends on what CPU from intel you are looking at and what use case you will be using it for.

A 13700k or 14700k will still game quite well and if the price is right it might be the best bet!
Keep in mind that Intel have had degredation issues with 13th and 14th gen CPU's.

 

 

I will reply tomorrow. Its 2:30 AM and I need sleep.

Alright yep that makes sense. I'm probably just gonna stick with AMD then. Thank you so much

[Hinjima]

It might seem like I am against Intel but I am really not.

I absolutely hope they get some better products rollin to keep the market competitive  

Its just for my use case ( gaming ) I can't recommend Intel at all, unless you get a good deal like you perhaps.

[johnt]

1 hour ago, Hinjima said:

Almost 100fps more on average with a 9800X3D? Here in Norway its only 70 dollars more expensive than a 265k.

The 265k does have more cores so it will be better in productivity of course. Intel isn't all bad, just mostly.

The 265k is nearly half the cost of the 9800x3d in the US.

[Mark Kaine]

On 8/13/2025 at 1:46 AM, StartingPCBuiilder said:

Hey, I'm a complete beginner so this question may be really basic, but what's the reason why Intel gets thrown to the side? Because I've heard from some it's price, but I can get a solid discount on Intel products which knocks them down to a pretty good price. Are there any horrendous issues with them that make AMD the obvious choice?

Yes, stay away from 13th 14th and up generations... anything before that is pretty good (so 11th 12th gen)

 

It's just why would you do any of that if you can just get AMD probably cheaper and without any big issues whatsoever? 

[Mark Kaine]

On 8/13/2025 at 3:42 AM, johnt said:

The 265k is nearly half the cost of the 9800x3d in the US.

More Intel fire sales?

 

My recommendation stands: stay away (mostly due to reliability and performance concerns)

[Mark Kaine]

On 8/13/2025 at 2:27 AM, Hinjima said:

It might seem like I am against Intel but I am really not.

I absolutely hope they get some better products rollin to keep the market competitive  

Its just for my use case ( gaming ) I can't recommend Intel at all, unless you get a good deal like you perhaps.

Same. I hope they recover, but rn? nah.

If you can get 10th 11th 12th gen for a really good price tho? I think they still good, not top of the line but good.

[StartingPCBuiilder]

56 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Yes, stay away from 13th 14th and up generations... anything before that is pretty good (so 11th 12th gen)

 

It's just why would you do any of that if you can just get AMD probably cheaper and without any big issues whatsoever? 

The only reason I was even SLIGHTLY considering it was because my parents both work at Intel, so I would get a 50% discount on the cpus. I could get a 14700k for 200 dollars, which is less than a 7700x. However, I would rather not risk it tbh

[Mark Kaine]

18 minutes ago, StartingPCBuiilder said:

The only reason I was even SLIGHTLY considering it was because my parents both work at Intel, so I would get a 50% discount on the cpus. I could get a 14700k for 200 dollars, which is less than a 7700x. However, I would rather not risk it tbh

I see but yeah it's not worth it imo even if you probably wouldn't have issues getting a replacement, do you really want to replace your CPU every 6 months or so potentially?

Plus there are other issues like data loss (potentially)

[johnt]

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

More Intel fire sales?

I mean maybe. The i7 usually sells for around $400 USD at launch and drops to $300 USD during typical sales. The 265k dropped to around $260 USD during the recent summer sales. It's available now for $280 USD. The 9800x3d is $500 USD right now.

 

You are absolutely right the 9800x3d has a huge margin at lower resolutions. Like 25% to 65% at 1080p over the 265k. But the difference drops to an 8% improvement at 4k gaming. No way is that worth it for double the cost.

 

Intel doesn't hold the strong lead that it used to, but I don't think you can really make a bad choice on CPUs right now.

 

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[Mark Kaine]

Hmm maybe the 256k ain't that bad... I'd just be warry about reliability with current Intel products after the 13th14th gen disaster. 

 

Also prices are hilarious I bought my 5800x3d for 250 euros few months after it came out...