Possible upgrade paths after upgrading GPU

[Ameridas]

Budget (including currency): ~300eu

Country: Lithuania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly esports titles, but occasionally AAA games on 4k tv

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

My current setup:
CPU: 12400f
GPU: 9070 (non XT)
PSU: 750w MSI
MOBO:  Gigabyte B660M DDR4
RAM: 16GB 2666hz

Displays: 1. 3440x1440 144hz ultrawide, 2. 1080p 144hz, 3. 4k 60hz TV

Hey, I've just upgraded from a 3070 to 9070, mostly cause I found a good deal and I wanted the vram overhead for 4k gaming on my tv for AAA games. Now I'm thinking that I'm getting a big bottleneck from my CPU since I'm getting lower fps numbers in cs2 compared with the 3070 (both are not at 100% util, so no idea what is happening there). I'm thinking of upgrading my CPU to something like 13600kf or 13700kf. Is would this be a good path to take since this is the last LGA 1700 upgrade I am going to make? Or should I move to some new MOBO + CPU combo for the same price and if so what do you think would be a good path to go to? Not a fanboy of either Intel or AMD so both work for me. Thanks!

[ByeGames]

Have you monitored RAM usage? 16GB is riding the line (especially with a mid to high end gpu)

[Mumintroll]

I do not recommend that cpu upgrade to 13600KF because of the degradation issue. It's still ongoing and there could be more microcode updates.

You could get more RAM instead, so that you have 32GB.

[Ameridas]

6 minutes ago, Mumintroll said:

I do not recommend that cpu upgrade to 13600KF because of the degradation issue. It's still ongoing and there could be more microcode updates.

You could get more RAM instead, so that you have 32GB.

Yeah, I was thinking about the 13th and 14th gen, but wasn't sure if it is still and an issue

[y0ur5h4d0w]

probably adding 16gb of ram because 16 is kind of short nowadays, maybe upgrading the CPU to in i7 of the latest gen your motherboard support then you're fine

[Ameridas]

33 minutes ago, y0ur5h4d0w said:

wait a minute.... you have a 9070 on this rig?

 

probably adding 16gb of ram because 16 is kind of short nowadays, maybe upgrading the CPU to in i7 of the latest gen your motherboard support then you're fine

yup is there a problem with 9070?

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, Ameridas said:

yup is there a problem with 9070?

Nope!

 

As for first upgrade. Defo more ram!

[y0ur5h4d0w]

Just now, Ameridas said:

yup is there a problem with 9070?

not at all! it's an amazing GPU!

 

the "possible bottlenecks" in your case might be the CPU and the 16gb of DDR4, the 16gb of ram are tight and pretty slow but it's sort of fine, i would advice you to keep saving cash and later upgrade to at least a ryzen 7800x3d or better the 9800x3d and 32gb of ddr5 6000 cl30 to have the best performances possible

[ByeGames]

I have to disagree, that CPU is fine. As long as you are not using either old or really crappy CPUs you should be fine (even at high resolution)

[YoungBlade]

7 minutes ago, ByeGames said:

I have to disagree, that CPU is fine. As long as you are not using either old or really crappy CPUs you should be fine (even at high resolution)

For eSports titles, if you're trying to push high FPS, the 12400F is starting to show its age.

 

It's not slow. But it will hold back the 9070 at competitive settings in some games, like CS2, even with a 1440p ultrawide.

[venomtail]

At 1440p and 4K the whole workload is on the GPU. At 1080p esports titles you could argue that the 12400F is keeping you back. All depends on the ratio of games you play. If mostly 1080p esports titles, new CPU would be worth it. If you spend a lot at 4k, then just sit tight, no real gain possible here other than a 4090/5090 as those are the only real 4K cards for the modern game out there.