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decided to wait for node shrink before i upgrade, only node shrink can give good performance gain, nvda this generation is a joke, although amd has improved a bit. will they release 3nm gpus early next year? i just cant wait. i dont want to buy a 9070 then 6 month later regret a new node shrink gpu with over 40% better performance at same price. also i heart UE5 games run badly with this generation, and rtx 6000 or amd equivalent, at minimum, is required to run UE5 properly, and witcher 4 is supposedly UE5.

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9 minutes ago, Dehaka said:

decided to wait for node shrink before i upgrade, only node shrink can give good performance gain, nvda this generation is a joke, although amd has improved a bit. will they release 3nm gpus early next year? i just cant wait. i dont want to buy a 9070 then 6 month later regret a new node shrink gpu with over 40% better performance at same price. also i heart UE5 games run badly with this generation, and rtx 6000 or amd equivalent, at minimum, is required to run UE5 properly, and witcher 4 is supposedly UE5.

There will always be something new after you have bought something.. A node shrink is probably not going to result in a 40% performance at the same price, at least not in the mid range like a 9070 or 5070-5070 Ti.

Where have you heard that next gen is required to run UE5 properly?  I want to read this article.

 

I am also waiting for the RTX 6000 due to the node shrink and rumored focus on more efficiency instead of pumping 600w at the high end.

We know that the Rubin architecture is 4-6 months ahead of schedule but they might delay it.

In reality, we dont know.  I am hoping late 2026 but with rumored Super series for the RTX 5000.. I doubt it.

Expecting mid to late 2027.

 

If you want to keep up with leaks and rumors with known inside sources.  Here are two channels.

https://www.youtube.com/@MooresLawIsDead/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@RedGamingTech/videos

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8 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Where have you heard that next gen is required to run UE5 properly?

Yeah, UE5 just never runs properly! ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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Just now, Mark Kaine said:

Yeah, UE5 just never runs properly! ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

So it won't run properly on the next gen cards either 😄  Its an engine issue.

Ot wait until we can just brute force performance.

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46 minutes ago, Dehaka said:

decided to wait for node shrink before i upgrade, only node shrink can give good performance gain, nvda this generation is a joke, although amd has improved a bit. will they release 3nm gpus early next year? i just cant wait. i dont want to buy a 9070 then 6 month later regret a new node shrink gpu with over 40% better performance at same price. also i heart UE5 games run badly with this generation, and rtx 6000 or amd equivalent, at minimum, is required to run UE5 properly, and witcher 4 is supposedly UE5.

supers refreshes year end, next arch is late next year

they may well not do N3 at all. GPUs like their SRAM. We dont know at this point, but late 2026 N2 and A18 will both be fully ramped. 

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1 hour ago, Dehaka said:

decided to wait for node shrink before i upgrade, only node shrink can give good performance gain, nvda this generation is a joke, although amd has improved a bit. will they release 3nm gpus early next year? i just cant wait. i dont want to buy a 9070 then 6 month later regret a new node shrink gpu with over 40% better performance at same price. also i heart UE5 games run badly with this generation, and rtx 6000 or amd equivalent, at minimum, is required to run UE5 properly, and witcher 4 is supposedly UE5.

for wukong, remnant, and 33, i'm pretty sure a 5070ti can run 4k 120fps medium dlssq fg'd to 240fps, a 5090 can do 4k high-ultra the same thing, unless u start turning on RT. I wouldn't wait 18 months when the 5070ti is 800usd, expecting jan 2027 atm.

 

I suspect the node shrink will be a 25% improvement but price to performance will only lower a little.

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On 5/27/2025 at 12:40 AM, Dehaka said:

decided to wait for node shrink before i upgrade, only node shrink can give good performance gain, nvda this generation is a joke, although amd has improved a bit. will they release 3nm gpus early next year? i just cant wait. i dont want to buy a 9070 then 6 month later regret a new node shrink gpu with over 40% better performance at same price. also i heart UE5 games run badly with this generation, and rtx 6000 or amd equivalent, at minimum, is required to run UE5 properly, and witcher 4 is supposedly UE5.

for udna and 6000 i reckon 2027. refresh of 5000 next year or later this year, maybe a higher powered 9000 around end of this year.
i reckon you should get a 9070 now, and be golden for a while. you can always sell it later.

 

UE5 will always be an issue until they fix the stuttering. Or if devs actually improve their skills and do it themselves, as certain titles dont have such stutters and others do.

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I don't have a huge amount of faith that the next set of cards will not also disappoint.   It has been getting worse each generation.  The 3080 was pretty good for the time but only had 10GB and was insufficient when I went 4k.  I went 4090 last generation because the 4080 and lower cards were mediocre (at launch) and lacked value.  They stepped it up and made sure that none of the cards had value and added a bunch of other problems lol.  Plus lying about performance by using MFG.  Kinda turned me off the entire hardware scene completely I even stopped using my gaming machine unless I'm gaming.

 

I'll probably go AMD when something is available under 1000 that is 50%+ faster in both raster and ray tracing than my 4090.  I'm fine waiting until my card is 3 generations old.

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2 hours ago, hollyh88 said:

UE5 will always be an issue until they fix the stuttering. Or if devs actually improve their skills and do it themselves, as certain titles dont have such stutters and others do.

Watching what happened with multi-GPU when they placed the burden on the developers, if you expect them to resolve issues, they will never get fixed.

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