RTX 4060 or 5060?

[Mjolnix]

I'm building a PC and my GPU budget is around 300 Euros. Let me say this first - I'm well aware that people hate the RTX 4060 and probably also the 5060. But my GPU budget is 300 Euros and I want a brand new GPU not used. So, I was confused between the RTX 4060 and RX 7600XT which are both similarly priced. Now, we have RTX 5060 launched around the same price too.

 

That makes me wonder, which one of these three GPUs should I buy? Is it as simple as "5000 series is better than 4000 series, so get 5060" or is there more to it?

 

You can see my complete PC build here (all the parts except GPU have already been purchased.) -> https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdZ7gn

 

New post here: 

 

[WereCat]

8GB VRAM is starting to be not enough even at 1080p for new games and there are plenty of examples where the card has the performance but just suffers due to lack of VRAM.

IMO either get the Intel Arc B580 or the RX 7600 XT 16GB.

The RTX 4060 / 5060 is just waste of money. The fact that NVIDIA did everything in their power to have no actual reviews of RTX 5060 on launch should tell you as much.

 

Honestly, you should really just grab used RTX 3060 12GB or RX 6700 XT instead.

 

 

[Millios]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JJ24h7

70 euros cheaper, better performance in almost every way

[Mjolnix]

2 minutes ago, Millios said:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JJ24h7

70 euros cheaper, better performance in almost every way

Thanks

[Mjolnix]

8 minutes ago, WereCat said:

8GB VRAM is starting to be not enough even at 1080p for new games and there are plenty of examples where the card has the performance but just suffers due to lack of VRAM.

IMO either get the Intel Arc B580 or the RX 7600 XT 16GB.

The RTX 4060 / 5060 is just waste of money. The fact that NVIDIA did everything in their power to have no actual reviews of RTX 5060 on launch should tell you as much.

 

Honestly, you should really just grab used RTX 3060 12GB or RX 6700 XT instead.

 

 

Okay, thank you. I was leaning more towards Nvidia because I like to use some local AI stuff but its not as important as gaming performance. So I guess I will go with 7600XT 

[WereCat]

2 hours ago, Mjolnix said:

Okay, thank you. I was leaning more towards Nvidia because I like to use some local AI stuff but its not as important as gaming performance. So I guess I will go with 7600XT 

You can use 7600 XT for AI just don't overpay for it, it's not worth it if it costs too much.

[starsmine]

Litteraly neither card. 
8GB is not enough for games that came out 2 years ago, let alone games that come out today. 

RocM is getting better every single day for AI use as well as Zluda. 

8GB is an issue for AI as well. (at least when training)

If (big if) a 5060 12GB super comes out at the end of the year, for 299, that would be a decent card. 

[Mjolnix]

58 minutes ago, WereCat said:

You can use 7600 XT for AI just don't overpay for it, it's not worth it if it costs too much.

Really? A lot of the AI stuff that I have come across is supported on Nvidia GPUs right out of the box, while half of it is not supported at all on AMD and the rest requires some sort of tinkering, or gives sub-optimal performance. So my impression of AMD GPUs from that perspective is that it's just going to restrict my work. 

 

Some of the examples: ComfyUI Stable Diffusion (many features are not supported on Windows), OpenAI's whisper requires using a workaround fork of whisper but still doesn't fully perform as much as Nvidia. This is kind of problematic for me. 

[WereCat]

12 minutes ago, Mjolnix said:

Really? A lot of the AI stuff that I have come across is supported on Nvidia GPUs right out of the box, while half of it is not supported at all on AMD and the rest requires some sort of tinkering, or gives sub-optimal performance. So my impression of AMD GPUs from that perspective is that it's just going to restrict my work. 

 

Some of the examples: ComfyUI Stable Diffusion (many features are not supported on Windows), OpenAI's whisper requires using a workaround fork of whisper but still doesn't fully perform as much as Nvidia. This is kind of problematic for me. 

I've run 72b DeepSeek on my 6800 XT 16GB with 64GB of RAM with Ollama just fine.

I've also did some image generation with Flux in ComfyUI (on Linux)

 

To be honest, I haven't tried on Windows so not sure what options are there.

[Why_Me]

3 hours ago, Mjolnix said:

I'm building a PC and my GPU budget is around 300 Euros. Let me say this first - I'm well aware that people hate the RTX 4060 and probably also the 5060. But my GPU budget is 300 Euros and I want a brand new GPU not used. So, I was confused between the RTX 4060 and RX 7600XT which are both similarly priced. Now, we have RTX 5060 launched around the same price too.

 

That makes me wonder, which one of these three GPUs should I buy? Is it as simple as "5000 series is better than 4000 series, so get 5060" or is there more to it?

 

You can see my complete PC build here (all the parts except GPU have already been purchased.) -> https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdZ7gn

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/live/news/nvidia-rtx-5060-review-doing-it-live/

[Mjolnix]

4 minutes ago, WereCat said:

I've run 72b DeepSeek on my 6800 XT 16GB with 64GB of RAM with Ollama just fine.

I've also did some image generation with Flux in ComfyUI (on Linux)

 

To be honest, I haven't tried on Windows so not sure what options are there.

AMD + Linux is supported out of the box by many tools. However, I'm on Windows and don't plan on using Linux. Most of the Windows stuff requires Nvidia, which sucks.

[Mjolnix]

3 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/live/news/nvidia-rtx-5060-review-doing-it-live/

Thank you for this.

[Why_Me]

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[Mjolnix]

4 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

https://geizhals.de/amd-ryzen-5-7500f-100-000000597-a2991857.html 

AMD Ryzen 5 7500F €138,99 

 

https://geizhals.de/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-a3228637.html   

ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE €25,90

 

https://geizhals.de/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-ve-750w-atx-3-1-corereactoriive750g-bkceu-a3167580.html  

ADATA XPG Core Reactor II VE 750W ATX 3.1 €95,01

 

https://geizhals.de/patriot-viper-venom-rgb-dimm-32gb-pvv532g600c30k-a3204206.html  

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Thank you for this list Although I have already purchased all the parts from my pcpartpicker list except the GPU 

[starsmine]

22 minutes ago, Mjolnix said:

AMD + Linux is supported out of the box by many tools. However, I'm on Windows and don't plan on using Linux. Most of the Windows stuff requires Nvidia, which sucks.

WSL2

no need to use linux as your base OS, unbuntu just runs inside windows with no fuss.