New GPU Upgrade Dilema

[Altis1]

Good evening. I'm in the market to upgrade my existing 3080 to either a 5070 Ti or a 9070xt, and I'm at a crossroads as I've preordered each of these GPUs through Amazon.

• XFX Quicksilver 9070xt - $870 (Amazon US)
• MSI Shadow 5070 ti - $892 (Amazon Germany)
• Gigabyte Gaming 5070 ti - $970 (Amazon US)

I've never owned a desktop AMD GPU before, nor any GPU that wasn't an EVGA (R.I.P). As I don't have any firsthand experience with any other AIB GPU, read countless reviews of AMD dropping the ball when it comes to driver support at times, and clearly noticed that Nvidia has dropped the ball on this 50 series launch, I'm lost on which direction to go down. Do any of you have some advice to give?

 

[RandomLegoBrick]

A 3080 seems pretty powerful already? Honestly if you are not very set on a specific card, consider if you even need an upgrade at all. In my opinion paying nearly 1k for a 70 class card is a little bonkers. Its not even that massive of a performance gain over a 3080.

[podkall]

10 minutes ago, Altis1 said:

I've never owned a desktop AMD GPU before, nor any GPU that wasn't an EVGA (R.I.P). As I don't have any firsthand experience with any other AIB GPU, read countless reviews of AMD dropping the ball when it comes to driver support at times, and clearly noticed that Nvidia has dropped the ball on this 50 series launch, I'm lost on which direction to go down. Do any of you have some advice to give?

Despite ball drops AMD has the resilience to eventually pick it up, and occasionally not dropping it, it sure depends on cicrucmstances and which games, and whether you're chasing to play the next newest released game, etc.

 

AMD is quite user-friendly, and so is it's software, some of it is arguably better than Nvidia's. The only downside of AMD is most of the upscaling and other tech is just better on Nvidia, but AMD isn't bad.

 

FSR 4 on 9000 series is quite very nice upgrade from the older versions.

[Altis1]

4 hours ago, RandomLegoBrick said:

A 3080 seems pretty powerful already? Honestly if you are not very set on a specific card, consider if you even need an upgrade at all. In my opinion paying nearly 1k for a 70 class card is a little bonkers. Its not even that massive of a performance gain over a 3080.

Most of the review are pointing towards the opposite. Raytracing seems to be widening the gap. 

 

4 hours ago, podkall said:

Despite ball drops AMD has the resilience to eventually pick it up, and occasionally not dropping it, it sure depends on cicrucmstances and which games, and whether you're chasing to play the next newest released game, etc.

 

AMD is quite user-friendly, and so is it's software, some of it is arguably better than Nvidia's. The only downside of AMD is most of the upscaling and other tech is just better on Nvidia, but AMD isn't bad.

 

FSR 4 on 9000 series is quite very nice upgrade from the older versions.

FSR 4 vs DLSS 4 difference worth a $100 difference based on the current pricing gap?

 

[podkall]

9 hours ago, Altis1 said:

FSR 4 vs DLSS 4 difference worth a $100 difference based on the current pricing gap?

Hard to tell, FSR 4 approximately sits between the quality of DLSS 3 and DLSS 4.

 

It's not hard to tell which is better necessarily, DLSS 4 Transformer is better than FSR 4, but if it's worth the difference price, and the frequency of utilization of the upscaling tech is up to you.

 

This video goes in decent depth comparing the two:

 

 

 

5070 Ti vs 9070 XT:

 

 

 

As for "relative" raster performance, this is how on ~average each GPU is by % better than 3080. (no upscaling)

 

[RandomLegoBrick]

11 hours ago, Altis1 said:

Most of the review are pointing towards the opposite. Raytracing seems to be widening the gap. 

Fair enough, if that is something you value in the games you play then it may be worth it. As you probably know, Nvidia is still ahead in ray-tracing in most cases compared to amd so that may be a large factor in your consideration.

[DNooby]

We each have our own internal criteria, I was in the market for a GPU upgrade as well and was planning on going for a 5070 ti or 5080... but the drop for physx 32bit support sent me to team read. I still play some oldschool games with my friends ( like age of mythology ). I've been really happy with my 9070 XT, and particularly like the 1% lows it gets

Though I do wish the RT performance was a bit better, even if it did make a big jump compared to their previous offerings

I guess I'd weight what games you plan to use it on, which cards perform better in those specific games
Will you be using RT?
Will you be using it for anything AI related? ( Nvidia has a huge lead in this case )
Do you care about any 32bit games or losing support for them?
Will you only be on windows or will you try out Linux?

Based on the answers to those you might be swayed a bit more in one direction vs another, specially since the raster performance between those cards is fairly close