Did i do a wrong move?

[KloakMunk]

hey
i bought an new pc and i was buying an intel i9 14900KF and 64gb of ram, but i only bought an nvidia 4060 ti 8gb and i am going to use this pc for edit photos in lightroom and i am going to make music with it. some gaming with my son in fortnite. i have one problem. my speakers buzzing ground loop noice when my gpu is at load. i was sending back the first gpu for coilwhine but this is making my speakers buzz, everyone i been asking if they hear it says no but i totally can hear the difference when it starts. the solution is playing some music or something cause its just groundloop noice so i dont hear it over music. but to my question, did i buy a bad setup if im in for editing photos and some music making? i mean the lightroom mobile is working fine. i was trying classic but was not happy with the classic at all cause it didnt work as good with syncing my photos and so on. should i been buying better gpu and less good cpu? or do lightroom use my cpu power?

[SorryBella]

4 minutes ago, KloakMunk said:

but to my question, did i buy a bad setup if im in for editing photos and some music making?

Coil whine and buzz can be caused by so many things in a computer you really should specify everything, including where the PC is plugged to (through a power bar, through a UPS, direct wall plug, etc) and whether your house has a good grounding.

[KloakMunk]

5 minutes ago, SorryBella said:

Coil whine and buzz can be caused by so many things in a computer you really should specify everything, including where the PC is plugged to (through a power bar, through a UPS, direct wall plug, etc) and whether your house has a good grounding.

oh i wasnt clear enough i am just asking if i bought a bad pc for edit photos and making music? the groundloop noice i have to live with. been trying to fix it with everything. and i am now making it work but i cant use my display at over 60hz then its to loud lol

 

[Kisai]

3 minutes ago, KloakMunk said:

oh i wasnt clear enough i am just asking if i bought a bad pc for edit photos and making music? the groundloop noice i have to live with. been trying to fix it with everything. and i am now making it work but i cant use my display at over 60hz then its to loud lol

 

The ground loop can most likely be fixed with a ferrite choke on the audio cables. That's not really the 'perfect' solution but it's easier one.

 

 

[KloakMunk]

3 minutes ago, Kisai said:

The ground loop can most likely be fixed with a ferrite choke on the audio cables. That's not really the 'perfect' solution but it's easier one.

 

 

been testing cables with that on. no luck. but i managed to get it better with the same power outlet and have the powercables in another way. to make the audio cable not pick it up.

[KloakMunk]

but my big question was if i bought wrong setup for edit photos and making music. i am using lightroom mobile now so i think im good. but i maybe should have bought better gpu for sure. i was thinking my photo editing was on the cpu lol but its on gpu side i guess. but i dont do video editing so i think im good right?

 

[saintlouisbagels]

6 minutes ago, KloakMunk said:

but my big question was if i bought wrong setup for edit photos and making music. i am using lightroom mobile now so i think im good. but i maybe should have bought better gpu for sure. i was thinking my photo editing was on the cpu lol but its on gpu side i guess. but i dont do video editing so i think im good right?

I use Lightroom Classic.

I previously owned a GTX 1080 for Lightroom. When I upgraded to the RTX 2080 TI, I hardly felt a difference in speed. The biggest difference happened when I upgraded to Windows 11 and then reformatted and did a clean re-install. Everything was just much smoother.

When I upgraded to the 12600K I had a smoother experience too. The GPU really isn't that relevant for photo editing.

[KloakMunk]

Just now, saintlouisbagels said:

I use Lightroom Classic.

I previously owned a GTX 1080 for Lightroom. When I upgraded to the RTX 2080 TI, I hardly felt a difference in speed. The biggest difference happened when I upgraded to Windows 11 and then reformatted and did a clean re-install. Everything was just much smoother.

thanks. yeah i did use classic but i was having problems so i uninstalled it and went back to mobile version lol

 

[Kisai]

4 hours ago, KloakMunk said:

but my big question was if i bought wrong setup for edit photos and making music. i am using lightroom mobile now so i think im good. but i maybe should have bought better gpu for sure. i was thinking my photo editing was on the cpu lol but its on gpu side i guess. but i dont do video editing so i think im good right?

 

Most Photo-Editing is not GPU intensive, usually the GPU is not invoked unless there is a filter or resize operation. So yeah an iGPU might suffer a lot, but you're just really trading time.

 

Now, if we're talking about layered artwork (eg for animation), 200 layers in a paint program at 4K is easily 13GB (64MB/layer without any compression tricks.) The GPU however is likely never seeing anything more than a single layer that is composited on the CPU. They don't upload every layer to the GPU because the GPU can't do (at least not without a specific CUDA/GPGPU program) everything the photo/paint/drawing application could possibly want to do. So every time you touch the canvas, it has to re-upload the entire image as a texture. Hence why it's likely all going to be CPU-bound and the GPU is only invoked for the actual display. So when you do rotate/zoom, that's the GPU being invoked, but when you release the tool, it does it on the CPU and actually updates the image.

 

At any rate for photography, nah, anything newer than 2006 would be fine short of being able to install a newer OS on it. For Music, it's pretty much the same logic as well. More system RAM = more layers/instruments/filters/etc. The CPU often doesn't even matter unless you're trying to do edits in real time (like above with the rotate and zoom.)

 

Only Video editing and Animation (by which I'm talking about FBF and Cut-out Animation) are really taxing on a GPU, because the GPU is often used on the decode end during editing, and rarely the encode end except when making videos explicitly for youtube, since youtube's going to mangle a high quality upload. When you invoke a render, it will still push everything through the CPU unless told otherwise.

 

If you're hearing ground loop/buzzing when the GPU is operating, that's unusual, but like 99% of the suggestions out there are simply "ground loop isolator" which is basically just the ferrite choke as I mentioned before. If you are doing serious music though, I would suggest buying an actual "sound card" and not use the built-in sound card, as some motherboards basically just use the cheapest realtek junk and usually the "USB" version. You'll get a better sound out of plugging the speakers into the monitor if it has a stereo line-out on it. But not all motherboard audio is trash, just some. If you have both front and rear panel outputs, check both. On my 4th gen system, the onboard audio only had noise when it was plugged into the front jack, and that was because the front panel audio cable was right under the GPU. My current 14th and previous 11th gen systems, the front panel is quiet, but the current MB actually uses a USB-connected audio solution, it's not PCIe, which means that the audio sometimes has noise in it from USB bus traffic, and any high-CPU situation can cause the audio to drop.

 

With that said, professional music production would use a PCIe card that has hardware ASIO, and no motherboard solution does that. It's not vital if you're not doing real-time music, but it removes all the latency when you are.

 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

13 hours ago, KloakMunk said:

i have one problem. my speakers buzzing ground loop noice when my gpu is at load.

Which jack are you plugging your headphones to?

 

13 hours ago, KloakMunk said:

should i been buying better gpu

No. The difference between an iGPU and your 4060 Ti is all you need if and when using certain filters. If you are happy with the gaming performance, your GPU seems fine for your use case.

 

13 hours ago, KloakMunk said:

and less good cpu?

Maybe. You could probably get away with a lower core count (e.g. the i5, or the i7 for same cache, of the 14***KF series). If you do some CPU rendering then that may change. Don't know what your music stuff may require, but I don't expect is that much either.

[KloakMunk]

my speakers is plugged with usb and an SSL 2+ to a presonus microstation bt 2.1 and then a7v speakers and an t10s subwoofer. but okey thanks for the tips you guys have. and info about the system. then im good though, i just thought i did a bad choice when building the pc lol have a good time guys