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my options are a 9950x or a 9800X3D but i am open to suggestions, i need something that wont bottleneck my upcoming 5080 (i dont feel like wasting 3600$ on a 5090, yes thats wut they are gonna cost here) and i need a productivity BEAST

 

my resolution is 1440p altho i do want to render video at 4k 60fps

 

i use davinci resolve for editing

photoshop for photoshoping

and some blender here and there

 

i play minecraft, halo infinite, hogwarts legacy and some CS2

 

i have unlimited budget, but no threadrippers 😉

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9950X3D will get you the best of both worlds (16 cores for productivity AND 3D V-cache for gaming), but need to check the limits of the 240mm AIO as you may be approaching those if you are genuinely going to push the CPU on sustained all-core boost.

 

The 3D cache also helps with some memory-intensive productivity tasks too: this has been proven by a few YouTubers by locking a 9700X and 9800X3D on the same clock speed and the 9800X3D was 5-10% faster, but only in select scenarios.

 

If you can't get hold of a 9950X3D when you need to do this upgrade (they are due out in March), then the 9950X will be ahead on productivity and still a very respectable gaming CPU.

Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), generic wireless remote/mouse.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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Some of the best AIO's are only £60-£80 (Arctic Freezer 3).... and a 240-280mm one of those will probably be plenty.

 

Just my personal preference, but I'd recommend using the AIO on the INtake, so you always get cool air for your CPU.... the GPU's, especially the new 5000 series vent all the air into the case, straight up to a top-mount exhaust, so will really mess with heat-soak on long render runs. 

Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), generic wireless remote/mouse.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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3 hours ago, BahnStormer said:

Some of the best AIO's are only £60-£80 (Arctic Freezer 3).... and a 240-280mm one of those will probably be plenty.

 

Just my personal preference, but I'd recommend using the AIO on the INtake, so you always get cool air for your CPU.... the GPU's, especially the new 5000 series vent all the air into the case, straight up to a top-mount exhaust, so will really mess with heat-soak on long render runs. 

dude thats what i have

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8 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

i have unlimited budget

 

5 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

but I am a cheapskate so...

 

So you do have a budget. 

 

8 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

my resolution is 1440p altho i do want to render video at 4k 60fps

 

i use davinci resolve for editing

photoshop for photoshoping

and some blender here and there

 

i play minecraft, halo infinite, hogwarts legacy and some CS2

 

9950X. But also invest in a 360 AIO if the case can support one. 

 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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13 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

and i like the compactness of the h5 flow and i dont wanna replace it

The Arctic Freezer II 280mm has the same cooling capacity as a Lian Li Galahad 360mm.... I think you'll be fine with an Arctic Freezer III 280mm, provided the GPU isn't pumping excessive amounts of heat into radiator (hence why I moved mine to the intake).

Peerless Assassin should be just about okay.... but far harder to control the airflow and make sure it gets cold air - most modern GPUs - especially the later RTX cards.

 

Even my RTX3080Ti meant I had to stop using my Noctua NH-D15 as the blow-through part of the GPU was pushing 350W of heat straight into the CPU cooler's intake.

 

If I had to go back to air cooling, I'd be tempted to use the 140mm rear exhaust  area as an intake and shroud the cool air from there into the CPU cooler's intake.... because this did NOT work:

2022-09-27_14_37_14-Clipboard_with_RED_arrow 50pc.jpg

Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), generic wireless remote/mouse.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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Since the arctic is about the price of a peerless assassin for me I thing I will just buy the 280mm variant altho I do not like dealing with AIOs, that's why I asked about a peerless assassin 

 

Well untill now I always used super budget and mostly second hand hardware so I didnt exactly struggle with cooling...

 

The thing is I have a freezer 3 240mm and I used it but when I installed it the screws got so striped and almost rounded up and now I can't get it to mount properly, another thing is that these arctic AIOs have a really thick radiator and I wanna mount the radiator in the front so GPU clearance might be an issue, I might just give up and buy an o11 mini cause it's small, or I might even do an sff build, I need to think about it more.

 

 

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5 hours ago, BahnStormer said:

The Arctic Freezer II 280mm has the same cooling capacity as a Lian Li Galahad 360mm.... I think you'll be fine with an Arctic Freezer III 280mm, provided the GPU isn't pumping excessive amounts of heat into radiator (hence why I moved mine to the intake).

Peerless Assassin should be just about okay.... but far harder to control the airflow and make sure it gets cold air - most modern GPUs - especially the later RTX cards.

 

Even my RTX3080Ti meant I had to stop using my Noctua NH-D15 as the blow-through part of the GPU was pushing 350W of heat straight into the CPU cooler's intake.

 

If I had to go back to air cooling, I'd be tempted to use the 140mm rear exhaust  area as an intake and shroud the cool air from there into the CPU cooler's intake.... because this did NOT work:

2022-09-27_14_37_14-Clipboard_with_RED_arrow 50pc.jpg

By the way the fans look AWFUL... if you like noctua get the chromax for god sake 

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55 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

The thing is I have a freezer 3 240mm and I used it but when I installed it the screws got so striped and almost rounded up and now I can't get it to mount properly,

it was so bad that my AMD stock cooler (wraith stealth not the bigger better one) beats it

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On 1/27/2025 at 2:24 PM, GreenLeaf said:

By the way the fans look AWFUL... if you like noctua get the chromax for god sake 

Why? The PC is under a desk slotted between other things, so the glass side is COMPLETELY obscured. 

 

The depth of the Arctic rads can be an issue.... I ended up mounting mine one the inside of the front trays: technically I could fit the fans inside the original tray, but it was even more messy than the eventual solution where I have a shroud from the front intake into the radiator and this way I can ensure clean airflow forced through the radiator.
 

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Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), generic wireless remote/mouse.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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Or alternatively, get an AIO on the GPU like my RTX4080S rig - I didn't take a photo at the end, so I still had the lower fan in place and the power wasn't connected yet:
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Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), generic wireless remote/mouse.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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15 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

For some reason I really want an 

O11, idk why or how I just want it

Mine are the O11 Air Mini - cases are always very personal taste, so I find them hard to recommend, especially when they were >£200.... but for me they just hit the sweet spot of compact enough to slot into smaller gaps without being too small to build in comfortably... the only design change that I'd like is the ability to completely remove that front fan tray, so I could mount the rads further forward - that would give me more clearance for a top AIO or longer GPU.

 

And maybe a solid side panel.... the glass is wasted on me. 

Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), generic wireless remote/mouse.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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