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Here's another option to consider that includes lower latency RAM.

 

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CPU: *Intel Core Ultra 7 265KF 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor  (€409.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: *Gigabyte Z890 EAGLE WIFI7 ATX LGA1851 Motherboard  (€235.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€107.89 @ Alternate) 
Total: €752.88
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*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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Budget (including currency): ~1400€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I want a good CPU for fast code compiling. I do play games from time to time, although not too graphically intense (mostly Minecraft). I also do very light video editing sometimes.

Other details / Aim: The main point of this build is to be able to use KVM on Linux to virtualize Windows with GPU passthrough, which is not possible on my current system (Laptop). This is why I plan to build a dual GPU system, so that I can run Windows with decent performance but also use a good GPU on my host. Also, I don't care about looks.

 

Part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BptcqH

I don't really know what I am doing, so I'm very open to changing these parts.

Reasons for picking these parts:

  • CPU: Ryzen 9 7950X - I want a very fast CPU with a high core count, that can also do slight gaming. This seems like it fits this well. GamersNexus also recommended it as a well-balanced (productivity / gaming) CPU
  • GPU #1: Radeon RX 7600 XT - I found this for 280€ used, which seemed like a good deal for a low-mid range GPU. I plan to use this as my main host (Linux) CPU, which is why I prefer AMD for this.
  • GPU #2: GeForce GTX 1660 Ti - I found this for 80€ used. However, it's probably overkill as my guest (Windows) GPU, so I would like to hear your opinion on this.
  • Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI - I am not really happy with spending this much on a motherboard, but it was the only motherboard I found that has a x16 PCIe slot running at x16 and a x16 PCIe slot running at x8, both of which going to the CPU. I'm not sure if that's really necessary though, so I would love to get a recommendation for a different board.
  • CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - I would like to stay out of water cooling, so this seemed like a good cooler for a good price.
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 - I want 32GB for VM(s). Otherwise, I don't know anything about this: I set some filters, sorted by price from low to high and picked the first kit from a recognizable brand.
  • SSD: 1TB crucial NVMe M.2 SSD - I don't know the exact model, but I'm just reusing the SSD that is in the Laptop I'm using right now. I upgraded to it some time ago, but the original Samsung 250GB SSD is still in it, so the plan is to sell my Laptop with that original SSD.
  • PSU: SeaSonic G12 GC 750 W - I went of the 600W estimation by pcpartpicker + some headroom. Again, just some filters and looking for a good brand.
  • Case: Azza Inferno 310DF ATX Mid Tower - I found this case used for 30€. I think everything should fit in here, but I'm not too sure, because it's only a mid-tower.
  • Case Fans: 2x Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm + 1x Noctua P12 redux-1700 PWM 70.75 CFM 120 mm - The case seller does not include fans, so I had to pick some. I am not really sure on how to configure fans, so feedback is very appreciated here. The case supports 2x 140mmm in the front and 1x 120mm in the rear.
  • Monitor: Currently, I only have one 1080p monitor (+Laptop screen), but I'm definitely going to upgrade to 2 or even 3 after the PC is done. I will stay at 1080p though, as I can barely tell a difference to 1440p anyway due to my vision disability.

Total: ~1420€

 

I am somewhat happy with this configuration. I just don't know if it will work as I expect. Also, spending 21% on the motherboard doesn't seem that reasonable?

 

That you for your attention and (hopefully) tips! 🙂

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You could save some money with a 7900x, they're better value and still quite powerful 

Also swap the expensive Noctua fans for an Arctic pack and save 60eur

Not sure of what's the use of the dual GPU, but mixing AMD and Nvidia is certainly a bad idea

AMD R9  7950X3D CPU/ Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E board/ 2x32GB G-Skill Trident Z Neo 6000CL30 RAM ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 ARGB cooler/  2TB WD SN850 NVme + 2TB Crucial T500  NVme  + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD / Corsair RM850x PSU/ Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / ASUS ROG AZOTH keyboard/ Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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3 minutes ago, Letsric said:

Thank you!

About the nvidia and AMD situation... is that a hardware or software problem? Because if it's just software that shouldn't be a problem, as they'd be completely isolated with my setup

Issue is that they've different drivers that don't work with each other 

AMD R9  7950X3D CPU/ Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E board/ 2x32GB G-Skill Trident Z Neo 6000CL30 RAM ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 ARGB cooler/  2TB WD SN850 NVme + 2TB Crucial T500  NVme  + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD / Corsair RM850x PSU/ Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / ASUS ROG AZOTH keyboard/ Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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Here's another option to consider that includes lower latency RAM.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core Ultra 7 265KF 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor  (€409.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: *Gigabyte Z890 EAGLE WIFI7 ATX LGA1851 Motherboard  (€235.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€107.89 @ Alternate) 
Total: €752.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-07 19:13 CET+0100

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Issue is that they've different drivers that don't work with each other

Not a problem for me, as they run on different OS's with only one driver loaded for each.

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Here's another option to consider that includes lower latency RAM.

Thank you for the RAM recommendation, that's very helpful. As for the CPU, I'll take a look at that.

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Feel free: To ask any question, no matter what question it is, I will try to answer. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PC configs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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14 minutes ago, podkall said:

The motherboard seems like a better pick, however, the exposed PCIe lanes are quite different.

PCIelanecomparison.thumb.jpg.2a88a141c42990828f32e4407dfc900f.jpg

Do you think the impact of this will be significant enough to justify spending more? I don't know much about PCIe lanes, so please educate me 🙂

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1 minute ago, Letsric said:

The motherboard seems like a better pick, however, the exposed PCIe lanes are quite different.

PCIelanecomparison.thumb.jpg.2a88a141c42990828f32e4407dfc900f.jpg

Do you think the impact of this will be significant enough to justify spending more? I don't know much about PCIe lanes, so please educate me 🙂

Well, more lanes are more lanes, the more lanes GPU has the more bandwidth it is able to go through those lanes together.

 

Why can't you just use one GPU? Isn't passthrough used for same GPU as the host?

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Feel free: To ask any question, no matter what question it is, I will try to answer. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PC configs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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10 minutes ago, podkall said:

Why can't you just use one GPU? Isn't passthrough used for same GPU as the host?

That is possible and the normal strategy, however, the latency and performance is terrible. Passing through an entire GPU solves that. Thank you still!

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48 minutes ago, Letsric said:

That is possible and the normal strategy, however, the latency and performance is terrible. Passing through an entire GPU solves that. Thank you still!

For what it's worth, all I can tell you that dual GPU setup that enables something like main 8x and secondary 8x lanes on both GPUs, can be done only on select expensive motherboards, basically approx 300€+ motherboards, if you pick the correct one..

 

But below that there's perhaps few that might do 4x and be close to 200€

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Feel free: To ask any question, no matter what question it is, I will try to answer. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PC configs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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