Check PSU compatiablity?

[cheiften98]

Looking at upgrading my psu to a Corais RM1000e or Corsair RM1000x as they are on sale atm. I know they are massively overkill for my build but would like to upgrade my gpu next year. 4070 maybe or 5070. (most likey only if they have a 16gb version)

I get this warning on pcpartpicker.



https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/Tw3qvj current pc
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wvp8Yd  pc with RM1000x

no compatability issues with RM1000e. maybe just save the 25 euro and get that instead?
I figured I could future proof a little, had current psu for 8-9 years, will put that in spare parts pc for the living room.

Thanks for reading.

[Hinjima]

30 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

Looking at upgrading my psu to a Corais RM1000e or Corsair RM1000x as they are on sale atm. I know they are massively overkill for my build but would like to upgrade my gpu next year. 4070 maybe or 5070. (most likey only if they have a 16gb version)

I get this warning on pcpartpicker.



https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/Tw3qvj current pc
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wvp8Yd  pc with RM1000x

no compatability issues with RM1000e. maybe just save the 25 euro and get that instead?
I figured I could future proof a little, had current psu for 8-9 years, will put that in spare parts pc for the living room.

Thanks for reading.

There will be no issues with the RM1000X 2024 with this build if you want to get that.

I actually bought this exact PSU yesterday

 

The RMe has 7 year warranty while the RMx has 10 years warranty.  The updated RM100x 2024 model comes with a newer power cable for RTX 4000/5000 GPU's.

There have been some complaints about the RMe series in terms of fan noise.

 

1000w is extreme overkill even for a 4070 or 5070 though.

I currently use an RMi750w with my Ryzen 7700x and overclocked RTX 4080.. I see around 430-450 full system wattage during heavy gaming.

[cheiften98]

10 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

There will be no issues with the RM1000X 2024 with this build if you want to get that.

I actually bought this exact PSU yesterday

 

The RMe has 7 year warranty while the RMx has 10 years warranty.  The updated RM100x 2024 model comes with a newer power cable for RTX 4000/5000 GPU's.

There have been some complaints about the RMe series in terms of fan noise.

 

1000w is extreme overkill even for a 4070 or 5070 though.

I currently use an RMi750w with my Ryzen 7700x and overclocked RTX 4080.. I see around 430-450 full system wattage during heavy gaming.

yeah it will be crazy for my 1070 lol.
its just on a nice sale atm and i trust corsair.

Still cant figure out if it will work with my motherboard though.
"The Corsair RM1000x (2024) 1000 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not provide a -12 V supply voltage. We are unable to verify if the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard requires it." is the warning i get on pcpartpicker.

[Hinjima]

6 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

yeah it will be crazy for my 1070 lol.
its just on a nice sale atm and i trust corsair.

Still cant figure out if it will work with my motherboard though.
"The Corsair RM1000x (2024) 1000 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not provide a -12 V supply voltage. We are unable to verify if the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard requires it." is the warning i get on pcpartpicker.

Yeah. I ONLY use Corsair RMi/RMx series of PSU's for my own and customers builds. I stand by their reliability.

 

I don't know why PcPartPicker has this as a warning.  The RM1000X 2024 model will definitely work with the ASUS TUF X570 motherboard.

There will be no compatability problems or other issues.

[cheiften98]

6 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Yeah. I ONLY use Corsair RMi/RMx series of PSU's for my own and customers builds. I stand by their reliability.

 

I don't know why PcPartPicker has this as a warning.  The RM1000X 2024 model will definitely work with the ASUS TUF X570 motherboard.

There will be no compatability problems or other issues.

thank you. if it comes to it ill have to mess around returning it. I was more interested in the RMX due to the coil whine as you mentioned. 

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

thank you. if it comes to it ill have to mess around returning it. I was more interested in the RMX due to the coil whine as you mentioned. 

That shouldn't be an issue  
It will work, I am 100% certain.

 

[cheiften98]

Another thing, the cable that plugs into the mains power and into the PSU, I live in Spain so all of my computer stuff is UK plug into a UK surge protector. I assume using the same psu cable will be fine from what ive found online, or should I order a new one too? (ofc all the cables inside my pc ill be swapping over, never mix and match)
https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B00B22TCRW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1AT7YVPFBWXBL&th=1
 

[Hinjima]

25 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

Another thing, the cable that plugs into the mains power and into the PSU, I live in Spain so all of my computer stuff is UK plug into a UK surge protector. I assume using the same psu cable will be fine from what ive found online, or should I order a new one too? (ofc all the cables inside my pc ill be swapping over, never mix and match)
https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B00B22TCRW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1AT7YVPFBWXBL&th=1
 

The PSU should come with its own power cable. And if you buy it in Spain or UK it will come with the correct cable / plug for your socket.

Mine will come with a Norwegian plug as we use different ones

[cheiften98]

19 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

The PSU should come with its own power cable. And if you buy it in Spain or UK it will come with the correct cable / plug for your socket.

Mine will come with a Norwegian plug as we use different ones

I live in Spain so it will come with an EU plug. My Surge protector is UK. from other forusm it does seem the power cable from my old psu will work np. I have a EU to UK adapter but its for shave use only (i do use it on my steering wheel just fine tho)

[cheiften98]

thank you for the help! @Hinjima
ordered it. arrives Friday. will change it out over the weekend and upgrade the living room pc, put my 960 in there, currently has a 750ti.

[seon123]

1 hour ago, cheiften98 said:

I get this warning on pcpartpicker.

The -12V rail is optional, so I would be extremely surprised if the motherboard actually requires it. PCPP tends to be quite happy to show warnings, so it's nothing to worry about.

 

1 hour ago, cheiften98 said:

no compatability issues with RM1000e. maybe just save the 25 euro and get that instead?

If you don't care about noise at all, then the RMe is fine. If you have at least somewhat functioning ears, get the RMx.

With that said...

1 hour ago, cheiften98 said:

I know they are massively overkill for my build but would like to upgrade my gpu next year. 4070 maybe or 5070. (most likey only if they have a 16gb version)

Getting a 1000W PSU for a 250W PC (whole system power consumption from the PSU during a gaming load), just because you think you might upgrade to a 300W PC (220W TDP rumoured for the 5070) is ridiculous. A good 650W-750W PSU is more than plenty. You're just wasting money at that point, and as both the RMe and RMx lack multi rail OCP, you're just getting an unnecessarily dangerous PSU for no reason at all. For PSUs that lack multi rail OCP (typically marketed as "single rail"), you want the lowest wattage that fulfills your requirements (powering the system, noise, connectors etc). If you want to go overkill with wattage, get a PSU that has multi rail OCP, as that allows you to get as much wattage as you want without increasing risk.

 

The RM750x 2024 costs less, and should even be able to remain passive under a gaming load. It remained passive up to about 450W in the HWbusters review (no idea why it did not stay passive for as long in the Cybenetics report).

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/JPMMnQ/corsair-rm750x-2024-750-w-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020285-na

https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm750x-atx-v3-1-psu-review/4/

[Hinjima]

31 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

I live in Spain so it will come with an EU plug. My Surge protector is UK. from other forusm it does seem the power cable from my old psu will work np. I have a EU to UK adapter but its for shave use only (i do use it on my steering wheel just fine tho)

Your old cable should work if its a somewhat modern PSU

 

You do simracing too?  what steering wheel do you have?

[cheiften98]

2 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The -12V rail is optional, so I would be extremely surprised if the motherboard actually requires it. PCPP tends to be quite happy to show warnings, so it's nothing to worry about.

 

If you don't care about noise at all, then the RMe is fine. If you have at least somewhat functioning ears, get the RMx.

With that said...

Getting a 1000W PSU for a 250W PC (whole system power consumption from the PSU during a gaming load), just because you think you might upgrade to a 300W PC (220W TDP rumoured for the 5070) is ridiculous. A good 650W-750W PSU is more than plenty. You're just wasting money at that point, and as both the RMe and RMx lack multi rail OCP, you're just getting an unnecessarily dangerous PSU for no reason at all. For PSUs that lack multi rail OCP (typically marketed as "single rail"), you want the lowest wattage that fulfills your requirements (powering the system, noise, connectors etc). If you want to go overkill with wattage, get a PSU that has multi rail OCP, as that allows you to get as much wattage as you want without increasing risk.

 

The RM750x 2024 costs less, and should even be able to remain passive under a gaming load. It remained passive up to about 450W in the HWbusters review (no idea why it did not stay passive for as long in the Cybenetics report).

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/JPMMnQ/corsair-rm750x-2024-750-w-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020285-na

https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm750x-atx-v3-1-psu-review/4/

atm RM850x costs more. its crazy.  From what ive read the Corsair RMX and RME are some of the best on the market right now. wdym dangerous?
Also I thought going 1.5x or 1.33x watts is more efficient. atm partpicker says 400watts. i plan on using the new psu for 10 years like my current one.  it is excessive but cheaper than lower wattage ones. 

[cheiften98]

7 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Your old cable should work if its a somewhat modern PSU

 

You do simracing too?  what steering wheel do you have?

Thrustmaster TMX Pro with a TH8A shifter. very happy with it. Got it just before covid for £150 ish and the shifter £140 ish. prices doubled after. not sure they make it anymore. used it a ton.

What wheel do you have?

[Hinjima]

1 minute ago, cheiften98 said:

Thrustmaster TMX Pro with a TH8A shifter. very happy with it. Got it just before covid for £150 ish and the shifter £140 ish. prices doubled after. not sure they make it anymore. used it a ton.

What wheel do you have?

Thats a great beginner wheel!   I had a few G25's and G27's during the years and I had a Thrustmaster T500RS with a TH8A shifter as well

 

Now I have a Moza R12 with a Moza CS V2 wheel and Moza's Load Cell Pedals + H shifter. I also have their Sequential shifter for rally driving.

I have been simracing since 2004.

 

Current setup.

[cheiften98]

7 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Thats a great beginner wheel!   I had a few G25's and G27's during the years and I had a Thrustmaster T500RS with a TH8A shifter as well

 

Now I have a Moza R12 with a Moza CS V2 wheel and Moza's Load Cell Pedals + H shifter. I also have their Sequential shifter for rally driving.

I have been simracing since 2004.

 

Current setup.

thats awesome. moza do look really nice. i was looking at a fanatec csl dd but really need a frame for that. will get quite expensive lol.

[Hinjima]

Just now, cheiften98 said:

thats awesome. moza do look really nice. i was looking at a fanatec csl dd but really need a frame for that. will get quite expensive lol.

Thank you!

 

Have a look at the ''Next Level Racing Wheel Stand 2.0'''

Its very solid and quite affordable, doesn't take up much space either.

Its solid steel so it can handle a Direct Drive wheel.

[cheiften98]

28 minutes ago, seon123 said:

 

The RM750x 2024 costs less, and should even be able to remain passive under a gaming load. It remained passive up to about 450W in the HWbusters review (no idea why it did not stay passive for as long in the Cybenetics report).

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/JPMMnQ/corsair-rm750x-2024-750-w-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020285-na

https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm750x-atx-v3-1-psu-review/4/

really not sure now. i was set on the rm1000x but even if I got a 4070ti super watts would be 530. just what if I upgrade cpu, mobo, ram in the next few years too. id be at 630 maybe then. 630 x 1.33 = 837
im not sure how much psu watta declines over years, ive had my current psu for 8-9 years. feels like a waste of money now you mention it but will save me having to possibly upgrade psu in the future. hmm

[seon123]

2 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

atm RM850x costs more. its crazy.

I linked the RM750x 2024, as that's €115.

2 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

From what ive read the Corsair RMX and RME are some of the best on the market right now. wdym dangerous?

I wouldn't describe the RMe that way, but yes, the RMx 2024 (not the 2021 model ) is among the best PSUs on the market. The problem is that despite this, it still lacks multi rail OCP. What this means is that the RM1000x is able to send 1000W through a single SATA cable's 12V line to a SATA SSD without shutting down. You can imagine 1000W going into a SATA SSD would not be ideal for both the SSD and the cable. So if something fails (you know, what the different protections are there for in the first place), it could potentially cause more damage and have a higher risk of fire than a lower wattage PSU, or a PSU with multi rail OCP.

 

It's not something worth worrying much about, but it is just yet another reason to try to avoid high wattage PSUs that lack multi rail OCP, besides the cost.

7 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

Also I thought going 1.5x or 1.33x watts is more efficient

No. If you care about efficiency, just look at the PSU's actual efficiency from reviews. What you'll find for modern high end PSUs, is that the efficiency "curve" is closer to two nearly straight lines. One nearly vertical one from 0-80W load, and then a horizontal line from 80W-110% load. So it's just not worth even looking at the efficiency when considering a PSU. It's more important to make sure the PSU actually performs well and is quiet, neither of which you can ensure from just looking at the efficiency.

13 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

atm partpicker says 400watts

Just ignore that. If you click the number, you can see how they arrived at that estimate.

Spoiler

A HDD is not going to pull 20W during gaming, a motherboard is not going to pull 70W (basically ever) etc.

 

Under a gaming load, expect the system power consumption for a mainstream platform (as in not HEDT) to be GPU TDP + 100W. The 100W accounts for the CPU, and the entire rest of the system.

17 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

i plan on using the new psu for 10 years like my current one

I'm planning on using my 650W for at least 12 (as that's the length of the warranty), but I don't expect the PSU wattage to ever be the restricting factor when it comes to upgrades. Even 450W would be more than fine for me, but 650W was the lowest wattage model of my particular PSU, so that's what I ended up with.

 

1 minute ago, cheiften98 said:

im not sure how much psu watta declines over years, ive had my current psu for 8-9 years. feels like a waste of money now you mention it but will save me having to possibly upgrade psu in the future. hmm

Any decent PSU is rated for continuos load. What this means is that you should expect the PSU to be able to output 100% of its rated wattage 24/7 for the entire duration of the warranty. Lower end PSUs may be rated for peak load (how much wattage it is able to pull for a limited amount of time), but that's not the case for the RMx.

[cheiften98]

3 minutes ago, seon123 said:

I linked the RM750x 2024, as that's €115.

I wouldn't describe the RMe that way, but yes, the RMx 2024 (not the 2021 model ) is among the best PSUs on the market. The problem is that despite this, it still lacks multi rail OCP. What this means is that the RM1000x is able to send 1000W through a single SATA cable's 12V line to a SATA SSD without shutting down. You can imagine 1000W going into a SATA SSD would not be ideal for both the SSD and the cable. So if something fails (you know, what the different protections are there for in the first place), it could potentially cause more damage and have a higher risk of fire than a lower wattage PSU, or a PSU with multi rail OCP.

 

It's not something worth worrying much about, but it is just yet another reason to try to avoid high wattage PSUs that lack multi rail OCP, besides the cost.

No. If you care about efficiency, just look at the PSU's actual efficiency from reviews. What you'll find for modern high end PSUs, is that the efficiency "curve" is closer to two nearly straight lines. One nearly vertical one from 0-80W load, and then a horizontal line from 80W-110% load. So it's just not worth even looking at the efficiency when considering a PSU. It's more important to make sure the PSU actually performs well and is quiet, neither of which you can ensure from just looking at the efficiency.

Just ignore that. If you click the number, you can see how they arrived at that estimate.

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A HDD is not going to pull 20W during gaming, a motherboard is not going to pull 70W (basically ever) etc.

 

Under a gaming load, expect the system power consumption for a mainstream platform (as in not HEDT) to be GPU TDP + 100W. The 100W accounts for the CPU, and the entire rest of the system.

I'm planning on using my 650W for at least 12 (as that's the length of the warranty), but I don't expect the PSU wattage to ever be the restricting factor when it comes to upgrades. Even 450W would be more than fine for me, but 650W was the lowest wattage model of my particular PSU, so that's what I ended up with.

 

Any decent PSU is rated for continuos load. What this means is that you should expect the PSU to be able to output 100% of its rated wattage 24/7 for the entire duration of the warranty. Lower end PSUs may be rated for peak load (how much wattage it is able to pull for a limited amount of time), but that's not the case for the RMx.

hmm maybe your right to cancel my order for the RM750x. 
atm ive undervolted my cpu and gpu. 40 watts on cpu, 110 on gpu.
i canceled my order.

[cheiften98]

115 for the RM750x or 130 for the RM850x on amazon.
really not sure which to get now.

[Hinjima]

8 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

115 for the RM750x or 130 for the RM850x on amazon.
really not sure which to get now.

750w will do quite well.

I run a 7700x and a overclocked RTX 4080 on my RM750i and I see 400-450w full system power during heavy gaming.

 

The reason I bought the 1000w is I am planning on getting a 5090.

 

[cheiften98]

36 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

750w will do quite well.

I run a 7700x and a overclocked RTX 4080 on my RM750i and I see 400-450w full system power during heavy gaming.

 

The reason I bought the 1000w is I am planning on getting a 5090.

 

the most i would feel happy spending on a gpu would be £400, after that i feel sick. maybe £600-£700 if it was something really powerful.
5070 with 16gb hopefully. 

[cheiften98]

i was just fomo because of the sale i saw. 160 down from 210. i figured, "its only an extra 20" or whatever from the lower one. I think ill get the 750 watt one. 
Thank you for the help!

[Hinjima]

Just now, cheiften98 said:

i was just fomo because of the sale i saw. 160 down from 210. i figured, "its only an extra 20" or whatever from the lower one. I think ill get the 750 watt one. 

Its a good PSU and 750w will be plenty for a 5070 16GB