DLSS Compatibility

[MiyagiDoKarate]

Hey guys, Ive been using an amd gpu(rx6600xt) for a couple of years, and Im thinking about upgrading and possibly switching to NVIDIA, probably a used 3000 series. However, Im very confused about DLSS compatibility.

Is DLSS 3.0 only compatible with the 4000 series? But is 3.5 compatible with the 3000 series? how is that?

Ive read that version 3.0 supports frame generation and version 3.5 supports ray reconstruction, but aside from that, is the image quality the same in both?

And what the hell are DLSS 3.1 and 3.7?

 

Thanks!

[porina]

Upscaling (regardless of version) is available on all RTX GPUs

Frame Generation, which was introduced in 3.0, is only available on 40 series. Don't read DLSS 3.0 as Frame Gen.

 

At the end, version numbers are just version numbers. Look at the specific feature by name if you care about them.

[CaiPott]

It's confusing people because Frame Gen is advertised with DLSS 3.0.

 

All DLSS versions are compatible with all RTX cards. Only Frame Generation, which you enable seperately on game settings, is only available for RTX 40 series cards due to hardware compability. 

 

Only Ada Lovelance architecture's Optical Flow calculation speed is fast enough to handle the load of Frame Gen.

[MiyagiDoKarate]

12 minutes ago, CaiPott said:

It's confusing people because Frame Gen is advertised with DLSS 3.0.

 

All DLSS versions are compatible with all RTX cards. Only Frame Generation, which you enable seperately on game settings, is only available for RTX 40 series cards due to hardware compability. 

 

Only Ada Lovelance architecture's Optical Flow calculation speed is fast enough to handle the load of Frame Gen.

So if I have a 3000 series GPU, the only way to get frame generation is with Lossless Scaling and mods?

[CaiPott]

11 minutes ago, MiyagiDoKarate said:

So if I have a 3000 series GPU, the only way to get frame generation is with Lossless Scaling and mods?

Depends on the mods. If you try to enable Frame Gen of Nvidia by modding game/driver, it won't work at all, the performance won't make you happy. There are mods that changes Nvidia libraries with AMD's one, this will make it work.

 

And yes. You can use frame generation softwares. They are not based on the hardware, at least LSFG is not.

[porina]

1 hour ago, MiyagiDoKarate said:

So if I have a 3000 series GPU, the only way to get frame generation is with Lossless Scaling and mods?

AMD FSR3 Frame Gen can be used if supported by the game or otherwise hacked in maybe. I was running Forspoken demo to try it as it was one of the first FSR3 FG games out.

[Mark Kaine]

15 hours ago, porina said:

Frame Generation, which was introduced in 3.0, is only available on 40 series. Don't read DLSS 3.0 as Frame Gen.

that doesn't seem correct? 

i can use dlss 3.5 + frame gen in Monster Hunter Wilds beta on my 3070 ... 

[porina]

41 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

i can use dlss 3.5 + frame gen in Monster Hunter Wilds beta on my 3070 ... 

Nvidia frame gen is only on 40 series GPUs. Since this thread was about DLSS, I took OP to refer to the NV implementation. FSR frame gen can work on any, and is now detached from upscaler. I don't know what that game implements.

[Mark Kaine]

2 hours ago, porina said:

Nvidia frame gen is only on 40 series GPUs. Since this thread was about DLSS, I took OP to refer to the NV implementation. FSR frame gen can work on any, and is now detached from upscaler. I don't know what that game implements.

oh ... i took screenshots, just checked, it literally says the same thing twice (for dlss and fsr) *except it actually says for dlss + frame gen: *on "rtx40" series...

 

so yes it's probably correct can't use nvidia frame gen on a 3000 series (except with hacks i guess) but you *can* with fsr... so yes you're correct, my bad. even though 9 out of 10 times fsr looks cleaner to me anyways (not a fanboy i swear )