Upgrade path for existing build

[Sydon]

Hello LTT Forum

 

I've had my current build since 2019, the specs are as follow: 

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 with stock cooler
• Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE.
• GPU: Radeon RX 580, 8GB GDDR5
• RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000 MHz 
• Storage 1: ADATA SSD 240GB Ultimate
• Storage 2: WD 1TB HDD Blue
• Power Supply: GiBy PB500 500W ATX 80 Plus Bronze

At first I wanted a complete new build but then I realized that since im on AM4 I can easily upgrade. I also noticed my motherboard has an M.2 slot. I wanted to ask what you guys think about possible upgrades and if my PSU would be a bottleneck, since it is only 500W. I thought of the following upgrades

• For the CPU I was thinking of getting a 5600, but wondered if there is a big gap with the 5700X(3D). I also wanted to get a seperate cooler, the thermalright peerless assasin and some extra case fans since my pc is running a bit hot atm. 
• adding an NVME SSD
• I wanted extra ram, but it seems a bit expensive to go buy a completely new kit to get higher speeds 32 gigs, would it be worth it? 
• For GPU I wanted to get something that would last, also for possible 1440p gaming incase I find a good monitor. I was thinking between a 4060/7600(XT) or a 3060.

The biggest questionmark for which GPU to get was with my power supply. I checked online and using PCPartpicker it said that a 7600 or a 3060 will definitely be fine. But the 7600XT or 4060 makes me think I might be stretching it, even though it will almost never be under full load. 
To make it easier on the wallet I also wanted to upgrade in increments. NVME first, maybe then the CPU, and keep the GPU for last. But when looking at the build in totality I wonder if I shouldn't just build a new PC from scratch. I don't think I should, because looking at the prices getting a 5600 or 5700x is pretty cheap, and I can keep the same motherboard. But is it then future proof enough? I use my PC mostly for gaming, as well as productivty for school (programming, pcb design, cad etc). 

 

What do you guys think about the possible upgrades? 

[podkall]

5 minutes ago, Sydon said:

I checked online and using PCPartpicker it said that a 7600 or a 3060 will definitely be fine. But the 7600XT or 4060 makes me think I might be stretching it, even though it will almost never be under full load. 

I'd be wary on that PSU, right now it's doing fine, but I wouldn't really stretch it's legs too hard,

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Sydon said:

For the CPU I was thinking of getting a 5600, but wondered if there is a big gap with the 5700X(3D). I also wanted to get a seperate cooler, the thermalright peerless assasin and some extra case fans since my pc is running a bit hot atm. 

First, there's big gap between 2600 and 5600.

 

With 5700x3D and 5600, it really depends on game and loads, what kind of games are you going to play? Will they benefit more from CPU or GPU?

 

Stronger CPU lets you run with more frames if the GPU can keep up, stronger GPU lets you use higher graphics settings before the experience worsens.

 

2600 vs 5600 (RTX 3070 GPU)

 

9 minutes ago, Sydon said:

I wanted extra ram, but it seems a bit expensive to go buy a completely new kit to get higher speeds 32 gigs, would it be worth it? 

New RAM can help, or it can do absolutely nothing, because the only variable in RAM is whether you're running out or not.

 

12 minutes ago, Sydon said:

For GPU I wanted to get something that would last, also for possible 1440p gaming incase I find a good monitor. I was thinking between a 4060/7600(XT) or a 3060.

If you plan for 1440p, there's less motivation to go higher than 5600 than to get better GPU, perhaps with PSU aswell.

 

13 minutes ago, Sydon said:

To make it easier on the wallet I also wanted to upgrade in increments. NVME first, maybe then the CPU, and keep the GPU for last.

Sure, but don't expect crazy results from getting NVME, it's not a bad plan though.

 

14 minutes ago, Sydon said:

But when looking at the build in totality I wonder if I shouldn't just build a new PC from scratch.

You could, but you'd need 1000$ before taxes minimum.

 

14 minutes ago, Sydon said:

But is it then future proof enough?

5600 is fine, do you even plan on playing all the crazy brand new ovepriced unoptimized games?

 

16 minutes ago, Sydon said:

What do you guys think about the possible upgrades? 

It's decent, also consider used market if you aren't scared, it's a place where you can save some $ if you don't get scammed.

[Sydon]

5 minutes ago, podkall said:

I'd be wary on that PSU, right now it's doing fine, but I wouldn't really stretch it's legs too hard,

 

 

 

What would be stretching the PSU too thin? Would it be worth it to get a PSU upgrade? I thought if the peak load is 420-440W the extra 80W-60W is enough cover. I don't play a lot of the new games coming out, but at times I do so I want to keep the option open. 

 

8 minutes ago, podkall said:

It's decent, also consider used market if you aren't scared, it's a place where you can save some $ if you don't get scammed.

What would be good things to try and get used? I don't think a PSU should be a part of that i.e.

[podkall]

22 minutes ago, Sydon said:

What would be good things to try and get used? I don't think a PSU should be a part of that i.e.

CPU, GPU and to an extent actually PSU, but mainly CPU and GPU that are listed in good condition or have exhaustive info about their condition that it looks trustworthy

[podkall]

24 minutes ago, Sydon said:

What would be stretching the PSU too thin? Would it be worth it to get a PSU upgrade? I thought if the peak load is 420-440W the extra 80W-60W is enough cover. I don't play a lot of the new games coming out, but at times I do so I want to keep the option open. 

It is enough, but PSUs in E tier:

"Tier E - units expected to be qualifying for no higher than tier D but without reviews or reliable information on, or otherwise having characteristics or issues keeping them from being placed on the same tier as better tier D units, or otherwise, units there are too little information on to be reliably tiered"

[podkall]

Just now, podkall said:

It is enough, but PSUs in E tier:

"Tier E - units expected to be qualifying for no higher than tier D but without reviews or reliable information on, or otherwise having characteristics or issues keeping them from being placed on the same tier as better tier D units, or otherwise, units there are too little information on to be reliably tiered"

Or in other words, these PSUs have bare minimum going on for them.

 

Also for context D Tier PSUs are PSUs recommended to be used only in iGPU builds.

[Sydon]

23 minutes ago, podkall said:

Or in other words, these PSUs have bare minimum going on for them.

 

Also for context D Tier PSUs are PSUs recommended to be used only in iGPU builds.

Thanks for the information. I might look into getting another PSU then as well. Thanks!

[podkall]

7 minutes ago, Sydon said:

Thanks for the information. I might look into getting another PSU then as well. Thanks!

No problem, the PSU might be completely fine even after you get a M.2 as your first upgrade, if you choose.

 

I would just not let any sudden problems or shutdowns go unnoticed.

[podkall]

By the way, why are you considering NVME as an upgrade?

 

Sure it will provide more storage, and that storage will be fast, perhaps 2-4x faster than any of your HDD/SSD drives, but that's where the upgrade ends.

 

Solid upgrade if you want fast storage, or perhaps even think about using it as an OS drive, might smooth things up a little. Giving the entire 250GB SSD as game drive, unless you want to keep it as boot drive, which is also a valid option, games are huge in some areas...

[Sydon]

On 10/13/2024 at 10:53 PM, podkall said:

By the way, why are you considering NVME as an upgrade?

 

Sure it will provide more storage, and that storage will be fast, perhaps 2-4x faster than any of your HDD/SSD drives, but that's where the upgrade ends.

 

Solid upgrade if you want fast storage, or perhaps even think about using it as an OS drive, might smooth things up a little. Giving the entire 250GB SSD as game drive, unless you want to keep it as boot drive, which is also a valid option, games are huge in some areas...

I use the PC with my brothers, so right now we don't have enough storage to run each game we want freely. I also want a possible dual boot of Linux on my main desktop instead of just my laptop. Extra storage + fast. Also seemed like the easiest upgrade to make.

[podkall]

2 hours ago, Sydon said:

I use the PC with my brothers, so right now we don't have enough storage to run each game we want freely. I also want a possible dual boot of Linux on my main desktop instead of just my laptop. Extra storage + fast. Also seemed like the easiest upgrade to make.

What's the budget for this NVME?

[Sydon]

8 hours ago, podkall said:

What's the budget for this NVME?

I saw good 1 TB NVME's for around 60 euro's where I am at, so I was gonna go for one of those.  Crucial P3 or a few others which I can't name from the top of my head.

[podkall]

19 minutes ago, Sydon said:

I saw good 1 TB NVME's for around 60 euro's where I am at, so I was gonna go for one of those.  Crucial P3 or a few others which I can't name from the top of my head.

What country? Germany?

[Sydon]

On 10/15/2024 at 10:20 PM, podkall said:

What country? Germany?

Belgium

[podkall]

12 minutes ago, Sydon said:

Belgium

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/rqhv6h/western-digital-blue-sn580-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t3b0e

 

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/chzhP6/crucial-p3-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p3pssd8

[Sydon]

19 hours ago, podkall said:

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/rqhv6h/western-digital-blue-sn580-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t3b0e

 

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/chzhP6/crucial-p3-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p3pssd8

Yeah these were 2 I found, I was thinking of perhaps waiting on black friday/christmas sales to snipe some good deals. Yet to decide though.

[podkall]

2 hours ago, Sydon said:

Yeah these were 2 I found, I was thinking of perhaps waiting on black friday/christmas sales to snipe some good deals. Yet to decide though.

Yeah, one thing to remember.

 

P3 Plus =/= P3

 

P3 Plus is 1000x better