troubleshooting ssd usage issues

[Eclipse2025]

so i got a machine from build redux,

came with a kingston snv2s 500gb nvme drive

lately ive been seeing its usage skyrocket to 100% ssd usage (it contains the os and has appx 156gb of free space) and just sit there causing windows to just hang. 

(this is watching its performance in task manager

cpu, memory, and all other performance is fine

cpu usage at 5%-10%

memory baseline @ 10-13gb out of 64gb

i wanna say its chrome because i tend to keep at least 20 ish tabs open at all times and sometimes open more, but ive had as many as 100+ open with no issue. and no hanging of windows

i also wanna think its steam but i have little on its drive in terms of games or otherwise. most of the apps are hardly used.

 

and lastly i can switch to the processes tab to try and look for something thats hogging the ssd but all the percentages for disk only sit at appx 30% and nothing looks to be trying to take it all.

i thought it also might have been windows defender or malware bytes. but i even checked those and either they werent running or just closed. 

 

anyone have any ideas what could be dragging the nvme usage to this degree?

i know this isnt much to go on, and its more random in occurrence and only when windows isnt doing much. its like the idle state is trying to do something but ive even had geek squad do a scan and found nothing.

any thought or ideas would be appreciated.

[kokosnh]

So even though nv2 is dramless qlc piece of garbage ssd, where they throw literally the cheapest components they can find, and call it a day.

it still should work relatywny fine, if trim/gc is working ( as in normal use, you literally almost don't use the ssd ).

 

no stability issues? No bsod? Try to disable chrome memory saving feature for now… if it helps it could be ssd related.

[Eclipse2025]

2 hours ago, kokosnh said:

So even though nv2 is dramless qlc piece of garbage ssd, where they throw literally the cheapest components they can find, and call it a day.

it still should work relatywny fine, if trim/gc is working ( as in normal use, you literally almost don't use the ssd ).

 

no stability issues? No bsod? Try to disable chrome memory saving feature for now… if it helps it could be ssd related.

Outside of windows, just straight up freezing, or being slow to respond to any commands, even moving the mouse across the screen. Hell, I even have a couple of instances where I have what I would refer to as a bad boot. Where my sound is all garbled.
And I effectively have to reboot the machine to clear that up. 
I’ll test out disabling that feature in chrome. And the whole issue is usually happening off and on. Sometimes it’ll happen three times in one day even after reboot and other troubleshooting techniques that I can think of. And other times it won’t happen for months. I may consider just replacing it if they are so bad. 
I just have to figure out a way to clone it to a new solid state. As I’ll probably just have build redux send me a new one since I have parts and labor for three years.

[kokosnh]

You sure your system is stable?
did you try to run your cpu and ram on default for a while?
It’s sometimes very hard to diagnose unstable ram, it took me like 6 months one time  ( I had to run memtest from cold start, to see errors ).

 

any uefi updates? 

[Eclipse2025]

2 hours ago, kokosnh said:

You sure your system is stable?
did you try to run your cpu and ram on default for a while?
It’s sometimes very hard to diagnose unstable ram, it took me like 6 months one time  ( I had to run memtest from cold start, to see errors ).

 

any uefi updates? 

fairly certain its stable

havent seen any uefi updates or really any hardware updates tbf

and im pretty sure its on default. at least default how i got it.

[Mark Kaine]

23 hours ago, kokosnh said:

So even though nv2 is dramless qlc piece of garbage ssd, where they throw literally the cheapest components they can find, and call it a day.

it still should work relatywny fine, if trim/gc is working ( as in normal use, you literally almost don't use the ssd ).

 

no stability issues? No bsod? Try to disable chrome memory saving feature for now… if it helps it could be ssd related.

i gotta say i had that kingston "ssd"  with a different name... and no, it only works for a few weeks/months at most before it starts crapping out... no dram, cheapass knockoff controller, etc will do that, and only that *reliably* lol.

 

Replace with a crucial MX500 and see how those issues vanish... need to install windows fresh though probably because it's likely corrupted beyond repair atp... 

[Mark Kaine]

On 10/2/2024 at 11:51 PM, Eclipse2025 said:

wanna say its chrome because i tend to keep at least 20 ish tabs open

doubtful... i have 16GB RAM and way more tabs open usually...

 

 

i can even play games with this, im pretty sure it just swaps the memory right at game start (windows usually reserves *all* ram for any given game at game launch...) it's not chrome...

 

it's your cheap dramless "ssd". 

 

 

On 10/2/2024 at 11:51 PM, Eclipse2025 said:

cpu usage at 5%-10%

memory baseline @ 10-13gb out of 64gb

i wanna say its chrome

again, nope.

 

 

2GB is all it uses (and yes the video *is* playing too)

[Eclipse2025]

11 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

doubtful... i have 16GB RAM and way more tabs open usually...

 

 

i can even play games with this, im pretty sure it just swaps the memory right at game start (windows usually reserves *all* ram for any given game at game launch...) it's not chrome...

 

it's your cheap dramless "ssd". 

 

 

again, nope.

 

 

2GB is all it uses (and yes the video *is* playing too)

then a new nvme it is then. if i cant clone it then at least i have the usb that buildredux provides to fresh install.

tyvm

[kokosnh]

To be honest, with that weird problems, I would not try to clone it. I would install clean new OS.
and do consult us before buying new ssd, to get something decent.

[Eclipse2025]

On 10/4/2024 at 6:48 PM, kokosnh said:

To be honest, with that weird problems, I would not try to clone it. I would install clean new OS.
and do consult us before buying new ssd, to get something decent.

why not clone? windows it self is stable and i think ive mostly narrowed down at least one of the reasons why the ssd hits... writing a lot of data at once either moving information on or off the disk. via downloading from the internet or moving to or from drive to drive.

though it still doesnt explain why it does this when sitting idle sometimes. regardless. im eager to hear the reasons behind why not to clone.

 

though im still also interested in why your ideas are for a new nvme drive. 

here is the board i currently have

MSI PRO B650-P WIFI for an amd processor. 

[kokosnh]

You have two M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 slots.

can you specify the budget, capacity, and location ( country ).

[Eclipse2025]

On 10/6/2024 at 12:53 PM, kokosnh said:

You have two M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 slots.

can you specify the budget, capacity, and location ( country ).

Considering it’s only gonna be used for the operating system nothing bigger than 500gb, or worst case scenario 1tb, and usa. 
 

Also, just a note I have a 990 pro 2 TB, but that’s predominantly used for storage and image generation testing.

[kokosnh]

cheapest top of the PCIe 4.0 480-512GB DRAM TLC SSD
Kingston Fury Renegade 500 GB 60$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Kdt9TW/kingston-fury-renegade-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sfyrs500g

Phison E18 + DDR4 + 176l TLC micron 

cheaper 480-512GB  alternative on slower controller
Acer Predator GM7000 512 GB 53$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LM2WGX/acer-predator-gm7000-512-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-bl9bwwr104 
InnoGrit IG5236 + DDR4 + 96/176l TLC micron 

cheapest top of the PCIe 4.0 1TB DRAM TLC SSD
MSI SPATIUM M480 PRO 1 TB  75$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xVDQzy/msi-spatium-m480-pro-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-s78-440l1g0-p83 
Phison E18 + DDR4 + 176l TLC micron 

little slower alternative, also top of the line PCIe 4.0 1TB DRAM TLC SSD, just little slower.  
Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 1 TB 80$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DyhFf7/western-digital-black-sn850x-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t2x0e

Ps. remember, the larger the SSD, the faster writes it has. 

[Eclipse2025]

35 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

cheapest top of the PCIe 4.0 480-512GB DRAM TLC SSD
Kingston Fury Renegade 500 GB 60$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Kdt9TW/kingston-fury-renegade-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sfyrs500g

Phison E18 + DDR4 + 176l TLC micron 

cheaper 480-512GB  alternative on slower controller
Acer Predator GM7000 512 GB 53$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LM2WGX/acer-predator-gm7000-512-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-bl9bwwr104 
InnoGrit IG5236 + DDR4 + 96/176l TLC micron 

cheapest top of the PCIe 4.0 1TB DRAM TLC SSD
MSI SPATIUM M480 PRO 1 TB  75$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xVDQzy/msi-spatium-m480-pro-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-s78-440l1g0-p83 
Phison E18 + DDR4 + 176l TLC micron 

little slower alternative, also top of the line PCIe 4.0 1TB DRAM TLC SSD, just little slower.  
Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 1 TB 80$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DyhFf7/western-digital-black-sn850x-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t2x0e

Ps. remember, the larger the SSD, the faster writes it has. 

Thanks, ill get that ordered. Appreciate the help.