PC stability issues.

[Threshis]

I build a budget gaming PC about 2.5 months ago. my rig:

CPU: R5 5600x PBO OFF
GRAPHICS CARD: RTX 4060
M.2 SSD: WD Blue SN580

MOBO: Gigabyte A520M K V2 (I know not the best mobo but for the hard budget i was on i thought it would be good)
PSU: Be Quiet! System Power 10 550W Bronze rated.

What ive done:
CPU stress test: Cinebench (no overheating)
GPU stress test: 3D mark, Furmark. (no overheating)
OCC power test: 10 minutes: no errors no overheating no crash.
Updated / downgraded drivers to see if any problems went way.
and lots and lots more.

since i build the pc ive had problems with stutters. i figured the stutters were a problem with the games i played: Elder scrolls online, Sekiro, Elden ring. Eso is notorius for stuttering so i cant test in that game. Sekiro had some "loading stutters" other people have them too when transitioning into a new area. Elden ring was really really bad until i fixed something bugged with the game. but now its getting worse the stutters. in elden ring i drop like 10 fps randomly. in tekken 8 there is something called fight lounge with a lot of people there and every time it loads a set of people it stutters like crazy. in the witcher 3 i keep having stutters when fighting enemies (happened in elden ring too for the first time today) i dont know if im going crazy or if there is actually something wrong. i would love some help. a note about the PSU: it does have a high pitch noise coming from it even when the PC is off. but testing power with OCCT resulted in no errors crashes or volt rails being low or anything. in HWINFO i do have a problem with power reporting deviation which dropped all the way to 80%

[PcBeExpensive]

What about the RAM? Is it OCed or do you have XMP on?

[Threshis]

1 hour ago, PcBeExpensive said:

What about the RAM? Is it OCed or do you have XMP on?

i got XMP on nothing is OCed 

[thekingofmonks]

I suspect VRM throttling with that kind of cheap motherboard with no VRM heatsink paired with a 120W+ CPU. Monitor your VRM temps, CPU clock and power draw with HWinfo.

[191x7]

2 hours ago, Threshis said:

I build a budget gaming PC about 2.5 months ago. my rig:

CPU: R5 5600x PBO OFF
GRAPHICS CARD: RTX 4060
M.2 SSD: WD Blue SN580

MOBO: Gigabyte A520M K V2 (I know not the best mobo but for the hard budget i was on i thought it would be good)
PSU: Be Quiet! System Power 10 550W Bronze rated.

What ive done:
CPU stress test: Cinebench (no overheating)
GPU stress test: 3D mark, Furmark. (no overheating)
OCC power test: 10 minutes: no errors no overheating no crash.
Updated / downgraded drivers to see if any problems went way.
and lots and lots more.

since i build the pc ive had problems with stutters. i figured the stutters were a problem with the games i played: Elder scrolls online, Sekiro, Elden ring. Eso is notorius for stuttering so i cant test in that game. Sekiro had some "loading stutters" other people have them too when transitioning into a new area. Elden ring was really really bad until i fixed something bugged with the game. but now its getting worse the stutters. in elden ring i drop like 10 fps randomly. in tekken 8 there is something called fight lounge with a lot of people there and every time it loads a set of people it stutters like crazy. in the witcher 3 i keep having stutters when fighting enemies (happened in elden ring too for the first time today) i dont know if im going crazy or if there is actually something wrong. i would love some help. a note about the PSU: it does have a high pitch noise coming from it even when the PC is off. but testing power with OCCT resulted in no errors crashes or volt rails being low or anything. in HWINFO i do have a problem with power reporting deviation which dropped all the way to 80%

Are you running the latest Bios?

[PcBeExpensive]

45 minutes ago, Threshis said:

i got XMP on nothing is OCed 

Could be that, turn XMP off and see if it changes anything. 

[Threshis]

28 minutes ago, thekingofmonks said:

I suspect VRM throttling with that kind of cheap motherboard with no VRM heatsink paired with a 120W+ CPU. Monitor your VRM temps, CPU clock and power draw with HWinfo.

VRM is max 55-60c my CPU is 65 watts - 75 watts with PBO on

[Threshis]

4 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

Could be that, turn XMP off and see if it changes anything. 

i could try it. will try it tomorrow. ill let you know if something is changed

 

[Threshis]

12 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Are you running the latest Bios?

I am not running the latest bios. too scared to update. but could that cause the performance to degrade ?

[PcBeExpensive]

5 minutes ago, Threshis said:

I am not running the latest bios. too scared to update. but could that cause the performance to degrade ?

it could case issues like this

[191x7]

33 minutes ago, Threshis said:

I am not running the latest bios. too scared to update. but could that cause the performance to degrade ?

Yes. What's scarry about a bios update?

[Threshis]

2 hours ago, PcBeExpensive said:

it could case issues like this

could it cause degrading performance over time ?

[Threshis]

1 hour ago, 191x7 said:

Yes. What's scarry about a bios update?

im scared it will fail and brick my pc

 

[Threshis]

4 hours ago, PcBeExpensive said:

What about the RAM? Is it OCed or do you have XMP on?

another guy on another forum said it might be my PSU because its too bad. could that be the case ?

[Threshis]

3 hours ago, PcBeExpensive said:

Could be that, turn XMP off and see if it changes anything. 

turned XMP on and off didnt change anything

[PcBeExpensive]

1 hour ago, Threshis said:

another guy on another forum said it might be my PSU because its too bad. could that be the case ?

I mean it could be but it shouldn't be unless its a fault PSU.

[PcBeExpensive]

1 hour ago, Threshis said:

im scared it will fail and brick my pc

 

With that terminology you shouldn't drive or anything, you might crash and die. Just follow a tutorial.

[191x7]

7 hours ago, Threshis said:

im scared it will fail and brick my pc

 

Most modern boards have ways to recover in the extremely rare case this happens, but even if it doesn't there are ways to repair.

The flashing process takes only a couple minutes, just don't cut the power while it's flashing.

Bios updates come out when something has to be fixed or improved, they exist for a reason.

Don't eat, you can choke.

[thekingofmonks]

10 hours ago, Threshis said:

VRM is max 55-60c my CPU is 65 watts - 75 watts with PBO on

Under what type of loads, though?

[Threshis]

2 hours ago, thekingofmonks said:

Under what type of loads, though?

65-67 watts is under full load (stress test) i got PBO off due to me not having a good cpu cooler

[Threshis]

3 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Most modern boards have ways to recover in the extremely rare case this happens, but even if it doesn't there are ways to repair.

The flashing process takes only a couple minutes, just don't cut the power while it's flashing.

Bios updates come out when something has to be fixed or improved, they exist for a reason.

Don't eat, you can choke.

 

8 hours ago, PcBeExpensive said:

With that terminology you shouldn't drive or anything, you might crash and die. Just follow a tutorial.

Ill update bios soon ill let you guys know if anything changed

[thekingofmonks]

4 hours ago, Threshis said:

65-67 watts is under full load (stress test) i got PBO off due to me not having a good cpu cooler

What I meant was what softwares?

Regardless, the 5600X should exceed 100W when under load with appropriate cooling, so I think it's reasonable to say that your board's VRM is being throttled. Adding a heatsink will fix that.

[Threshis]

3 hours ago, thekingofmonks said:

What I meant was what softwares?

Regardless, the 5600X should exceed 100W when under load with appropriate cooling, so I think it's reasonable to say that your board's VRM is being throttled. Adding a heatsink will fix that.

 

[thekingofmonks]

The 5600X has an 88W PPT, so I suppose I was wrong...

 

What about VRM temps???

[Threshis]

1 hour ago, thekingofmonks said:

The 5600X has an 88W PPT, so I suppose I was wrong...

 

What about VRM temps???

VRM temps are 58-60 max under very high stress