update CPU opinion

[XxK3V1NxX]

I want to improve my CPU since it has 2 cores.
I was thinking about an A10 9700 processor or something a little more expensive like a RYZEN 3 1200 or 1300x

Which do you think is the best option considering the price? It is to play in low-medium graphics

[jaslion]

What do you have now?

 

The a10 9700 is a horrible cpu. The ryzen 1200 and 1300x are quite old and shouldnt be used these days really too however they are MANY times faster than the terrible a10.

 

What is the budget? What is the goal of this? Usecase?

 

 

[XxK3V1NxX]

7 minutes ago, jaslion said:

¿Qué tienes ahora?

 

El A10 9700 es una CPU horrible. Los Ryzen 1200 y 1300X son bastante viejos y tampoco deberían usarse hoy en día, sin embargo, son MUCHAS veces más rápidos que el terrible A10.

 

¿Cuál es el presupuesto? ¿Cuál es el objetivo de este caso de uso?

 

 

At this moment an Athlon 3000G without iGPU
I remember that a friend of mine has the A10 9700 without any type of modification (overclock) and it does very well in games
I have 25k ARS and I can easily sell my processor for 30k ARS.
Simply the use that will be given will be for some other school program that requires a lot of CPU load and games like war thunder on low without the processor being at 100% all the time.

 

[Fasauceome]

34 minutes ago, XxK3V1NxX said:

I remember that a friend of mine has the A10 9700 without any type of modification (overclock) and it does very well in games

the A10 CPUs are worse than your athlon. the Athlon 3000G is based on the Zen architecture which is way newer and faster.

 

The only upgrades for you would be the Ryzen 3 CPUs. But you should definitely consider a Ryzen 5 instead, for more value for your money.

[XxK3V1NxX]

7 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Las CPU A10 son peores que las de tu Athlon. El Athlon 3000G se basa en la arquitectura Zen, que es mucho más nueva y más rápida.

 

Las únicas mejoras que puedes hacer son las CPU Ryzen 3, pero definitivamente deberías considerar comprar un Ryzen 5 para obtener una mejor relación calidad-precio.

Thanks for explaining that to me, I just still don't understand how my partner with his A10 can play the same game at high speeds, and I have to play it at minimum and yet in the comparison videos they say that my processor performs better when with my partner. I notice that difference

[Tetras]

2 minutes ago, XxK3V1NxX said:

Thanks for explaining that to me, I just still don't understand how my partner with his A10 can play the same game at high speeds, and I have to play it at minimum and yet in the comparison videos they say that my processor performs better when with my partner. I notice that difference

For most games the graphics card is a bigger deal, but without more details about the games and the rest of the PC it is hard to say.

 

I would try and get a Ryzen 3 2300X rather than the 1200, or a Ryzen 3 2500X rather than the 1400, just because your Athlon has Zen+ cores, whereas the 1000 CPUs have Zen cores and they're a little slower than what you already own.

 

I do agree with the above though, a Ryzen 5 like a 2600 or 3600 would be much better CPU overall. I appreciate your budget is quite small, so unfortunately they're likely to be out of your price range.

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, XxK3V1NxX said:

I just still don't understand how my partner with his A10 can play the same game at high speeds,

do you and him have the same ram? same graphics card? identical settings in the game? There are a lot of reasons the A10 would have better performance.

 

Specifically, the ram is the biggest factor. Do you have two sticks of ram?

[XxK3V1NxX]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

¿Tienen tú y él la misma memoria RAM? ¿La misma tarjeta gráfica? ¿Configuración idéntica en el juego? Hay muchas razones por las que el A10 tendría un mejor rendimiento.

 

En concreto, el ariete es el factor más importante. ¿Tienes dos palos de ariete?

I recently bought a gtx 750 ti with 2gb ddr5 which makes a difference but the CPU remains the same as it creates a bottleneck.
At the time, when we both had 16GB of RAM and only processors with integrated graphics, he used his memories at 2400MHz and I at 2666MHz, because that is the maximum allowed by the processors we use.
However, its CPU continued to perform better.

[thekingofmonks]

If your motherboard supports it, you can go for any AM4 CPU. A 1300X isn't that interesting nowadays, you can get a 1600 for dirt cheap.

[Fasauceome]

41 minutes ago, XxK3V1NxX said:

he used his memories at 2400MHz and I at 2666MHz

1x16GB or 2x8GB? also, make sure that XMP is enabled so that you are getting the proper speed

 

41 minutes ago, XxK3V1NxX said:

gtx 750 ti with 2gb ddr5 which makes a difference but the CPU remains the same as it creates a bottleneck

does he also have a 750 TI?

[XxK3V1NxX]

4 minutes ago, thekingofmonks said:

Si tu placa base lo admite, puedes optar por cualquier CPU AM4. Un 1300X no es tan interesante hoy en día, puedes conseguir un 1600 por muy poco dinero.

Currently my motherboard is an MSI A320M A-PRO MAX and it supports up to the 3mil series of the entire Ryzen generation, so I shouldn't have any problems.

I would opt for a 1200 or 1300x generation processor since they are the most common and not too expensive. Since in my country when you want to buy something of a better model they kill you even if it is used.

[XxK3V1NxX]

14 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

¿1x16 GB o 2x8 GB?

 

¿También tienes una 750 TI?

Estoy comparando la potencia de la CPU, no la de la GPU.
Por eso dije que cuando solo teníamos iGPU, su procesador funcionaba incluso mejor con una arquitectura de núcleo mucho más antigua.

 

Usamos 2 memorias de 8Gb cada una para habilitar el doble canal y así potenciar un poco la iGPU

What worries me most at this moment is not the graphics power, but the CPU power, since my athlon is 100% 24/7

Likewise, right now, just by turning on my PC, the processor uses 40-80% of its power.
So I think it's time to change it for something 4 core urgently.

[thekingofmonks]

2 minutes ago, XxK3V1NxX said:

Currently my motherboard is an MSI A320M A-PRO MAX and it supports up to the 3mil series of the entire Ryzen generation, so I shouldn't have any problems.

I would opt for a 1200 or 1300x generation processor since they are the most common and not too expensive. Since in my country when you want to buy something of a better model they kill you even if it is used.

Actually, the latest (beta version) BIOS supports Zen 3 (5000 series) CPUs, although I'm not sure whether they'll be stable.

 

But it's entirely up to you. Upgrading to the best isn't a necessity.

[Fasauceome]

10 minutes ago, XxK3V1NxX said:

Estoy comparando la potencia de la CPU, no la de la GPU.
Por eso dije que cuando solo teníamos iGPU, su procesador funcionaba incluso mejor con una arquitectura de núcleo mucho más antigua.

 

Usamos 2 memorias de 8Gb cada una para habilitar el doble canal y así potenciar un poco la iGPU

for the iGPU, the 9700 is expected to be faster

[XxK3V1NxX]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

for the iGPU, the 9700 is expected to be faster

How feasible is it to buy the A10 solely because it has 4 cores?

I saw one quite cheap and may buy it as it looks well maintained.

[Fasauceome]

6 minutes ago, XxK3V1NxX said:

How feasible is it to buy the A10 solely because it has 4 cores?

you already have a graphics card, so that is not recommended. the 4 cores of the A10 are a lot worse than the 4 threads of your athlon.

[XxK3V1NxX]

5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Ya tienes una tarjeta gráfica, por lo que no es recomendable. Los 4 núcleos del A10 son mucho peores que los 4 hilos de tu Athlon.

I wanted to get to that point, so instead of spending money on the A10s, I opted for the Ryzen

 

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, XxK3V1NxX said:

I wanted to get to that point, so instead of spending money on the A10s, I opted for the Ryzen

 

I agree, Ryzen is a better choice for you.

The Ryzen 5 1400 might be worth considering, if you find one for cheap. Although, not that many were sold, so it might not be easy to get a cheap one.

[XxK3V1NxX]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Estoy de acuerdo, Ryzen es una mejor opción para ti.

Si encuentras uno barato, podría valer la pena considerar el Ryzen 5 1400. Sin embargo, no se vendieron muchos, por lo que puede que no sea fácil conseguir uno barato.

ok bro, thank you very much for your suggestions and opinions, thanks to you I already have a well-formed idea of which CPU to buy