AMD vs Intel build, help!

[Rbylin]

AMD

 

ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0

 

ADATA 8GB (2x4GB) CL9 1600MHz XPG

 

AMD FX-6350 6C 4.2Ghz AM3+

 

Kingston SSD V300 240GB

 

ASUS Radeon R9 280X 3GB DirectCUII+

 

Corsair CX 750M 80+ Bronze Modulär

 

VS

 

Intel

 

 

 

ASUS MAXIMUS VII RANGER Z97 ATX 

 

Intel Core i5 4670K 3.4 GHz (Haswell)

 

MSI GeForce GTX 770 4GB TwinFrozr GAMING-series + Watch Dogs

 

 

Kingston SSD V300 240GB

 

 

Corsair CX 750M 80+ Bronze Modulär

 

ADATA 8GB (2x4GB) CL9 1600MHz XPG

 

What will be pros and cons? except the prices?

 

Thanks!

[Askew]

Intel, better overall performance, especially the CPU.

 

I'd swap the 4GB 770 out for a 2GB model if there's one available cheaper, as the performance difference in 99% of single GPU situations is basically 0.

[i_build_nanosuits]

oh so they are now giving watch dogs with the 4GB 770...isn't that a good tip! LOL

 

intel must cost quite a bit more isn't it...for about the same performance in most games...do you play MMO's (ESO, planetside2, guild wars) or mostly modern games? BF4, crysis 3, watchdogs?

 

You plan on going sli/CFX with that PSU i suppose?

 

are you going to overclock any of these kits?

 

For AMD i would recommand FX-8320 instead of the 6350 and intel if you dont overclock the core i5-4460 or 4440 would be a better price/performance.

[Thebman712]

budget to see if we can make the best of your budget 

 

as i was told yesterday, the 770 isnt the greatest since for about the same price you could get a 290, which will blow the 770 away

[Guest Emrye]

AMD is better for mid-grade builds, not expensive one's. So Intel would be the way to go, with better performance in the long run.

[Rbylin]

Intel, better overall performance, especially the CPU.

 

I'd swap the 4GB 770 out for a 2GB model if there's one available cheaper, as the performance difference in 99% of single GPU situations is basically 0.

 

Games like bf4 do exceed 2 Gb on the GPU  if im not wrong?

 

oh so they are now giving watch dogs with the 4GB 770...isn't that a good tip! LOL

 

intel must cost quite a bit more isn't it...for about the same performance in most games...do you play MMO's (ESO, planetside2, guild wars) or mostly modern games? BF4, crysis 3, watchdogs?

 

You plan on going sli/CFX with that PSU i suppose?

 

are you going to overclock any of these kits?

 

For AMD i would recommand FX-8320 instead of the 6350 and intel if you dont overclock the core i5-4460 or 4440 would be a better price/performance.

the Intel build side is more expensive yes around like 150 US dollars. 

 

I'm not overclocking until i have a better cooling solution than stock, but planing on doing some overclocking (therefore the I5- K).

 

Not going sli or crossfire from start but want a PSU that could support it. 

 

A budget is hard since i live in Sweden and the currency rates are going up and down plus our taxes are huge!

 

playing games like BF4 and ARMA III

 

Thanks for the response!

Edited May 26, 2014 by Rbylin

[Askew]

Games like bf4 do exceed 2 Gb on the GPU  if im not wrong?

 

If you have it, it can use it just because it's there, if you don't the driver will adjust VRAM allocation accordingly and use less, you won't notice a great loss for not having it.

 

You can play BF4 in 1080p on a 1GB card and get stable performance, there is an enormous amount of snake oil and bullshit going about concerning VRAM.

 

If you are using high resolution more can be required, but so will more GPU power, you'll see that more powerful cards come with more VRAM on them for this reason, which is the same reason that lesser cards do not.

[Rbylin]

If you have it, it can use it just because it's there, if you don't the driver will adjust VRAM allocation accordingly and use less, you won't notice a great loss for not having it.

 

You can play BF4 on a 1GB card and get stable performance, there is an enormous amount of snake oil and bullshit going about concerning VRAM.

 

Oh Okay! thank you!

[i_build_nanosuits]

you play ARMA3 pick an intel build...

About VRAM, titanfall, BF4, watch dogs and many many new games to come use and will make great use of 3gb of VRAM even at 1080p...for high-resolution high quality in game texture settings you want at least 3gb for 1080p.

The r9 280x and GTX 770 both will be strong enough to make good use of more VRAM. here how IN GAME texture affects VRAM and framerates, as they evolve new games use better and better textures thus requiring more and more VRAM:

 

[Thebman712]

switch your 770 for a r9 290 if they are even close in price

[i_build_nanosuits]

switch your 770 for a r9 290 if they are even close in price

yup this is a VERY good suggestion. 4GB and much more processing power.

[i_build_nanosuits]

if you are overpriced pick an intel i5-4430, i5-4440 or i5-4460 instead, they will all run games really well.

ARMA 3 is a badly optimised game it require tremendous amount of data to be processed by a single CPU core so it won't run that great even on high-end intel, keep that in mind...50-60FPS is what you're looking at MAXIMUM...

[Rbylin]

switch your 770 for a r9 290 if they are even close in price

 They are pretty close in price, are the 290 much better? im not used to AMD 

[Rbylin]

yup this is a VERY good suggestion. 4GB and much more processing power.

 

if you are overpriced pick an intel i5-4430, i5-4440 or i5-4460 instead, they will all run games really well.

ARMA 3 is a badly optimised game it require tremendous amount of data to be processed by a single CPU core so it won't run that great even on high-end intel, keep that in mind...50-60FPS is what you're looking at MAXIMUM...

 ah okay as i said im not used to AMD stuff, does AMD have something that u can compare to Nvidia experience?

so Arma would bennefit from a stronger cpu? not as much from a stronger GPU?

[i_build_nanosuits]

 ah okay as i said im not used to AMD stuff, does AMD have something that u can compare to Nvidia experience?

so Arma would bennefit from a stronger cpu? not as much from a stronger GPU?

About the r9 290, yes this GPU is about the same processing power as a GTX 780, wich is a good 30-40% faster than a 770...defenetly better gaming performance and you have more VRAM, and faster VRAM on a wider memory bus this makes for even better performance at higher resolutions (at 4K for example the r9 290 is faster than a GTX 780 by a good bit)

 

About ARMA, yes the intel haswell CPU with the fastest clock speed possible is what you need for max performance, this game is CPU bound, it's a EXCEPTION to the rule though most modern games are ALL GPU bound...

[Rbylin]

Thanks allot everybody!