Upgrade Recommendations?

[jimmhaef94]

Budget (including currency): $1000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Light gaming, mostly Factorio, some AAA modern games but not too much. I use a 3440x1440p monitor, so would be nice to be able to play most games at 60fps high settings.

Other details: I am currently rocking a Ryzen 7 2700X (8c16t) and a Radeon VII GPU and I am starting to consider upgrading to something more modern. Not sure what the best path would be, thinking of going the 7800X3D route for the CPU, but factoring that and a new motherboard, I am wondering what GPU would be an upgrade to the Radeon VII I currently have without going crazy with something like a 4090. I have an 850W power supply that I would like to keep.  I am OK with going used for the GPU as well, just not sure where to start. 

 

[BentleyOwen123]

how much ram do you have? and what cooler, this would be a HUGE upgrade

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cLjyyg

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($321.64 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  ($589.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $911.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[filpo]

3 hours ago, jimmhaef94 said:

I have an 850W power supply that I would like to keep

model?

 

3 hours ago, jimmhaef94 said:

I am currently rocking a Ryzen 7 2700X

what mobo is it on?

 

3 hours ago, jimmhaef94 said:

Budget (including currency): $1000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Light gaming, mostly Factorio, some AAA modern games but not too much. I use a 3440x1440p monitor, so would be nice to be able to play most games at 60fps high settings.

Other details: I am currently rocking a Ryzen 7 2700X (8c16t) and a Radeon VII GPU and I am starting to consider upgrading to something more modern. Not sure what the best path would be, thinking of going the 7800X3D route for the CPU, but factoring that and a new motherboard, I am wondering what GPU would be an upgrade to the Radeon VII I currently have without going crazy with something like a 4090. I have an 850W power supply that I would like to keep.  I am OK with going used for the GPU as well, just not sure where to start. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($244.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($689.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $933.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[jimmhaef94]

Thanks all for your initial suggestions, for some more details the power supply is a corsair RM850X (2018 model, white), I have 64GB of ram installed and using the ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero X470 motherboard. So AM4 socket, which would be nice to keep since I have a full custom watercooling setup, including a monoblock for that motherboard currently. If I went 5800X3D route I could keep the motherboard and most of the watercooling in place, which would be nice and allow me to save some money for the GPU. 

[BentleyOwen123]

yea that seems to be your best option a 5700/5800 x3d will do great in any modern title, and if you wan nvidia features like dlss, go 4070 super, if not 7900xt

[filpo]

1 hour ago, jimmhaef94 said:

I have 64GB of ram installed and using the ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero X470 motherboard

update the bios on that board and get a 5700X3D and a 7900 XT (4070 Ti if you're using RT)

[BentleyOwen123]

4 minutes ago, filpo said:

update the bios on that board and get a 5700X3D and a 7900 XT (4070 Ti if you're using RT)

always forget about the ti sorry, that ones better haha

[filpo]

Just now, BentleyOwen123 said:

always forget about the ti sorry, that ones better haha

4070 Ti is only about 10% better, though now it's at $680 it could be worth it. 4070 SUPER is slightly better value, I mostly chose it since it was the price competitor to the 7900 XT and is better than the 4070 SUPER for RT. But if OP isn't using RT then they should get the 7900 XT

 

2 minutes ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

sorry,

all good . Just my opinion on the Ti, it's not necessarily the right option  

[jimmhaef94]

I think I will first start with the CPU upgrade, I don't know why I never fully realized that a 5700x3d/5800x3d would be drop-in replacements (with a BIOS upgrade). Thinking about my current use-case, that would probably give me more of an immediate upgrade to some of my games - primarily large Factorio maps where my 2700x is chugging at like 20UPS.  Since I haven't been playing a lot of more modern and GPU-intensive games recently, I think my Vega2 card is still OK for my current needs. If I push the GPU upgrade to another time, I can spend the extra on the 5800x3d over the 5700x3d for the frequency boost since cooling isn't an issue with my watercooling setup. Then I can consider my GPU upgrades at a later time, perhaps when the next families come out, although the 4070 Ti SUPER is very enticing currently

[BahnStormer]

When I upgraded my 2700X to 5900X, I not only saw the improved IPC, but WAY higher CPU and memory OC potential... the latter will depend on the memory you have (ideally at least 3200MT/sec CL16?), you'll need that to get the most out of really pushing the AM4 platform hard.

 

If you need to invest in faster memory, then possibly just "walking away" (from AM4) as a well spec'd 7600X and 32gb of DDR5 6000MT/sec CL30 will be faster and cheaper than a 5800X3D + new DDR4 memory.

Given you have a solid motherboard and lots of RAM (provided it is reasonable spec?), then I'd recommend a 5700X3D/5800X3D that PSU should be fine for a 5800X3D (same TDP as a 2700X!) and fairly high end GPU (e.g. RTX4070TiS / RX7900XT/XTX).

 

I'm running an overclocked 5900X and the power-pig that is a RTX3080Ti on 850W no problem.

[filpo]

1 hour ago, jimmhaef94 said:

If I push the GPU upgrade to another time, I can spend the extra on the 5800x3d over the 5700x3d for the frequency boost since cooling isn't an issue with my watercooling setup

the frequency boost isn't worth it, even if it won't break your budget. it's around only a few percent better so I'd get the 5700X3D

If you don't need the gpu upgrade now then stick with the Radeon VII

 

1 hour ago, jimmhaef94 said:

although the 4070 Ti SUPER is very enticing currently

do you need the RT? If not then just get a 7900 XT. $100 cheaper with more vram and the same if not better (slightly) raster performance

[jimmhaef94]

1 hour ago, filpo said:

the frequency boost isn't worth it, even if it won't break your budget. it's around only a few percent better so I'd get the 5700X3D

Yeah I am seeing that now, looked into a few benchmark comparisons and I think, especially compared to what I currently have, the extra ~$70 to get the 5800x3d probably isn't worth it. 5700X3D it is.

 

1 hour ago, filpo said:

If you don't need the gpu upgrade now then stick with the Radeon VII

Yeah I think this is what I am going to do, at least for now. I am curious to see just how much the CPU upgrade will get me.