GIGABYTE GA-B650M-DS3H

[testcy]

Any thoughts about GIGABYTE GA-B650M-DS3H? Is there a reason to buy a more expensive B650 motherboard if no additional features are needed? Would this support all current AM5 CPUs without heat or other issues?

[TatamiMatt]

8 minutes ago, testcy said:

Any thoughts about GIGABYTE GA-B650M-DS3H? Is there a reason to buy a more expensive B650 motherboard if no additional features are needed? Would this support all current AM5 CPUs without heat or other issues?

Its not bad but there are better boards, thermals, VRMs, IO etc for not too much more expensive, where are you based and i can recommend a board

[RONOTHAN##]

6 minutes ago, testcy said:

Any thoughts about GIGABYTE GA-B650M-DS3H?

It's a fine board. I wouldn't go any lower, Gigabyte boards especially have some weird issues on the boards lower end than that (things like PBO being disabled in the BIOS), but this is the lowest end board that doesn't have that problem. It should be fine, and it's pretty cheap as well. 

 

Also take a look at the B650M-HDV/M.2, that's another board with good enough power delivery and similar features, but has been (at least more recently) been selling for less on average. 

[testcy]

1 hour ago, TatamiMatt said:

Its not bad but there are better boards, thermals, VRMs, IO etc for not too much more expensive, where are you based and i can recommend a board

I know that there are better boards for not too much more, but are there better ones for about the same or a little more? Better options I have are about 25-30% more expensive.

1 hour ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It's a fine board. I wouldn't go any lower, Gigabyte boards especially have some weird issues on the boards lower end than that (things like PBO being disabled in the BIOS), but this is the lowest end board that doesn't have that problem. It should be fine, and it's pretty cheap as well. 

 

Also take a look at the B650M-HDV/M.2, that's another board with good enough power delivery and similar features, but has been (at least more recently) been selling for less on average. 

I know B650M-HDV/M.2 is cheaper and has support for M.2 PCIe Gen5x4, but it has not been available from the shop I usually buy from for months, so I am considering other options.

[TatamiMatt]

7 minutes ago, testcy said:

I know that there are better boards for not too much more, but are there better ones for about the same or a little more? Better options I have are about 25-30% more expensive.

Again, it really depends where you are from as prices vary quite a bit

[testcy]

Just now, TatamiMatt said:

Again, it really depends where you are from as prices vary quite a bit

Which boards do you have in mind for not too much more that are worth considering?

[TatamiMatt]

10 minutes ago, testcy said:

Which boards do you have in mind for not too much more that are worth considering?

Do you have a specific size preference? and budget?

 

Decent mATX board, but dunno prices for you

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs

[testcy]

22 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Do you have a specific size preference? and budget?

 

Decent mATX board, but dunno prices for you

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs

I can only find the non-mATX model, but it's 50% more expensive than the least expensive options. I do prefer ATX, but if i am paying that much, I would prefer to get a B650E motherboard, even for a little more.

[TatamiMatt]

53 minutes ago, testcy said:

I would prefer to get a B650E motherboard, even for a little more.

Why? OOC

 

Is this for a gaming build?

 

And i still cant really recommend anything good without knowing where youre based, as in spain, for example, there are a lot of decent boards for the price gigabyte Gaming AX, MSI gaming plus, etc, but in america the Gigabyte Eagle AX is better than most boards at that price point and much cheaper than any similar tier boards and would be the one i recommend for the majority of applications for price-performance

[testcy]

1 minute ago, TatamiMatt said:

Why? OOC

 

Is this for a gaming build?

No, for PCIe 5.0 x16 and PCIe 5.0 M2 support if I ever need them.

[TatamiMatt]

3 minutes ago, testcy said:

No, for PCIe 5.0 x16 and PCIe 5.0 M2 support if I ever need them.

You wont need them for a long time, weve only recently hit the PCIe 3.0x16 limits for GPUs with the 4090, anything below that can comfortably run on PCIe gen3 and on top of that the performance hit for running a 4090 on PCIe gen 3 is around 2-3%.

 

For SSDs, unless youre transferring terrabytes often and regularly, you wont need gen 5 NVMes and even then high end gen 4s will be able to do that in no time at all anyway

[testcy]

39 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

You wont need them for a long time, weve only recently hit the PCIe 3.0x16 limits for GPUs with the 4090, anything below that can comfortably run on PCIe gen3 and on top of that the performance hit for running a 4090 on PCIe gen 3 is around 2-3%.

 

For SSDs, unless youre transferring terrabytes often and regularly, you wont need gen 5 NVMes and even then high end gen 4s will be able to do that in no time at all anyway

Even if I will not need them for a long time, I still think it's better to build a system with the latest technology, if its for a small extra cost, as unless it fails, I will probably keep it for many years.

[TatamiMatt]

It really wont provide any benefit, youll more than likely need to change motherboards again before being able to make use of them, id recommend getting gen 5 on your next motherboard upgrade, or maybe even the one after that, but right now theyre a largely redundant technology as we havent caught up to them in the other formats that matter, GPU etc

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, testcy said:

No, for PCIe 5.0 x16 and PCIe 5.0 M2 support if I ever need them.

No, there isn't any benefit (yet) for Gen 5.  SSD's don't provide real world speed boosts, and there is not Gen 5 GPU, let alone one NEEDING Gen 5.

 

It'll handle years worth of AM5 chips, like B350 does for AM4.  

 

It's a solid board, but there are others like the Lightning and a few others at the budget end that are good picks too.  B650 is very strong for this generation.

[testcy]

On 4/9/2024 at 1:01 PM, Dedayog said:

It'll handle years worth of AM5 chips, like B350 does for AM4.  

 

It's a solid board, but there are others like the Lightning and a few others at the budget end that are good picks too.  B650 is very strong for this generation.

What motherboards are not much more expensive than either GA-B650M-DS3H or B650M-HDV/M.2 and have a better VRM?

[TatamiMatt]

22 hours ago, testcy said:

What motherboards are not much more expensive than either GA-B650M-DS3H or B650M-HDV/M.2 and have a better VRM?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CvcgXL/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-eagle-ax

 

Eagle AX is $10 more and a quite nice board, especially for the price

[testcy]

14 hours ago, TatamiMatt said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CvcgXL/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-eagle-ax

 

Eagle AX is $10 more and a quite nice board, especially for the price

I can't find Eagle AX. Currently, for about 30% more, I can buy either GA-B650M-AORUS ELITE AX or GA-B650M-GAMING X AX. Are these worth the extra cost? Are there any choices with better sound than the Realtek ALC897 Codec?

[Dedayog]

3 hours ago, testcy said:

I can't find Eagle AX. Currently, for about 30% more, I can buy either GA-B650M-AORUS ELITE AX or GA-B650M-GAMING X AX. Are these worth the extra cost? Are there any choices with better sound than the Realtek ALC897 Codec?

Think you need to move up to the Pro AX f you want the Realtek 1220 setup.

 

That said, doubt you could tell any difference between them.  The Elite AX is a 12+2 board, so if that's worth 30% more then rock it.  For me it was, as I went with the Pro AX for various reasons (some even make sense).

 

It's all about how much you want to spend, and always remember you spend more than you get each bump.  You'll never get more.

[testcy]

On 4/30/2024 at 1:06 AM, Dedayog said:

Think you need to move up to the Pro AX f you want the Realtek 1220 setup.

 

That said, doubt you could tell any difference between them.  The Elite AX is a 12+2 board, so if that's worth 30% more then rock it.  For me it was, as I went with the Pro AX for various reasons (some even make sense).

 

It's all about how much you want to spend, and always remember you spend more than you get each bump.  You'll never get more.

I can't find the B650 AORUS PRO AX, but B650 AERO G is available, which seems to be as good if not better, but at a higher price?

[Dedayog]

8 hours ago, testcy said:

I can't find the B650 AORUS PRO AX, but B650 AERO G is available, which seems to be as good if not better, but at a higher price?

Yeah, it's a tad better.  Not sure how much more money for you though?

[testcy]

3 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Yeah, it's a tad better.  Not sure how much more money for you though?

I think about 15-20% more expensive, which is near B650E prices.

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, testcy said:

I think about 15-20% more expensive, which is near B650E prices.

Naw, save the money.  Won't be any benefit realistically in use.

 

 

[testcy]

On 5/1/2024 at 7:07 PM, Dedayog said:

Naw, save the money.  Won't be any benefit realistically in use.

 

 

I could go all the way and buy ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS for an additional 20% more, but that still has S1220A. Another inexpensive choice is MSI PRO B650-S WIFI, any ideas about its VRM?