Q's Before Finalizing Build

[Jal Hardin]

Budget (including currency): $2,100 usd

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Everything but twitch games & competitive shooters

Other details: The smaller the case, the better. Existing displays: 1440p, 1080p. I'll need a wired kb and mouse. No RGB or RGB that can be turned off. Decent quality around $90. Mouse: Small to normal sized with more than two buttons. Any build parts can be swapped out.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xtHYBL

 

Is an mATX build ok for this cpu and gpu? M.2 slots are next to GPU. (see attached image)

The mobo needs BIOS update for this CPU. Can I do this w/o having a CPU to put in it?

Do I need anything for this build besides some small screwdrivers and an OS install USB?

Are clearances good for GPU, Cooler, RAM?

  GPU: 343.916mm in length

  Card Dimension (cm) 34.4 x 12.8 x 5.7
  Card Dimension (inch) 13.54 x 5.04 x 2.24

 

[BentleyOwen123]

almost all modern matx cases have support for large 3 fan cards, this one included, i would like to recomend you away from this case tho, i know friends with this case and have heard reviews about bad build quality and cheap materials, if its in your budget maybe grab a nzxt h5 flow or a o11 mini but this case has support for up to 350mm gpus, and this card is 344, although i dont know about adding fans to the front of the case

[MiszS]

Looks great, don't think I would change anything, maybe besides the case, but that's mostly preference. The h6 flow looks the best imo

[Tetras]

6 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

Is an mATX build ok for this cpu and gpu? M.2 slots are next to GPU. (see attached image)

Yes, nothing wrong with MATX in principle.

 

Overheating with M.2 slots under the GPU are hard to predict, since it depends on the cooler and the heat output of the GPU and the M.2 drive.

 

9 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

  GPU: 343.916mm in length

  Card Dimension (cm) 34.4 x 12.8 x 5.7
  Card Dimension (inch) 13.54 x 5.04 x 2.24

From a quick googlage of the case specs, it looks like this will be very tight and might prevent you installing a front fan.

 

12 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

The mobo needs BIOS update for this CPU. Can I do this w/o having a CPU to put in it?

It has a flash button on the rear which suggests: YES, but I can't confirm it actually has flashback. You may find it doesn't need a BIOS update anyway when it arrives.

 

12 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

Do I need anything for this build besides some small screwdrivers and an OS install USB?

No, but I'd get a lamp if it is dark and have another PC or a phone nearby so you can check the manual, or "how to" videos online if you get stuck.

[PDifolco]

10 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

Budget (including currency): $2,100 usd

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Everything but twitch games & competitive shooters

Other details: The smaller the case, the better. Existing displays: 1440p, 1080p. I'll need a wired kb and mouse. No RGB or RGB that can be turned off. Decent quality around $90. Mouse: Small to normal sized with more than two buttons. Any build parts can be swapped out.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xtHYBL

 

Is an mATX build ok for this cpu and gpu? M.2 slots are next to GPU. (see attached image)

The mobo needs BIOS update for this CPU. Can I do this w/o having a CPU to put in it?

Do I need anything for this build besides some small screwdrivers and an OS install USB?

Are clearances good for GPU, Cooler, RAM?

  GPU: 343.916mm in length

  Card Dimension (cm) 34.4 x 12.8 x 5.7
  Card Dimension (inch) 13.54 x 5.04 x 2.24

 

The M2 slots have shields, that'll be good

The 7800X3D released more than 1 year ago, probably most new boards already have a compatible BIOS
Board also has BIOS Flashback, no CPU needed

 

[filpo]

16 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

Is an mATX build ok for this cpu and gpu?

yes, but not in this case. It's quite a budget one

 

16 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

Can I do this w/o having a CPU to put in it?

yes, the motherboard has bios flashback

 

16 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

Do I need anything for this build besides some small screwdrivers and an OS install USB?

not too small but ye, that's basically it. You can get an anti static strap if you'll build it on a carpet, but if it's hard floor then ignore this

you'll need a license as well

 

16 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xtHYBL

not bad but I'd go for this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($357.00 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($899.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Jonsbo D31 MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit  ($123.94 @ Walmart) 
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI FAN P28 92 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($56.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2011.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-26 14:38 EDT-0400

 

EDIT: for mouse and keyboard try these two

Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (910-005280) - PCPartPicker

Logitech G413 SE Wired Gaming Keyboard (920-010442) - PCPartPicker

Edited March 26, 2024 by filpo
Edited with mouse and kb

[podkall]

22 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

The mobo needs BIOS update for this CPU. Can I do this w/o having a CPU to put in it?

can you go for different motherboard? there's cheaper alternatives that are good quality

 

22 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

Do I need anything for this build besides some small screwdrivers and an OS install USB?

Probably not,

 

9 minutes ago, Tetras said:

No, but I'd get a lamp if it is dark and have another PC or a phone nearby so you can check the manual, or "how to" videos online if you get stuck.

yeah having help if you get stuck is good, you could even ask on these forums too

 

 

I'd go for different case maybe, though not terrible,

 

and since you're getting high end GPU, a slightly better PSU wouldn't hurt either

 

10 minutes ago, filpo said:

yes, but not in this case. It's quite a budget one

 

yes, the motherboard has bios flashback

 

not too small but ye, that's basically it. You can get an anti static strap if you'll build it on a carpet, but if it's hard floor then ignore this

you'll need a license as well

 

not bad but I'd go for this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($357.00 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($92.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($899.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Jonsbo D31 MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit  ($123.94 @ Walmart) 
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI FAN P28 92 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($56.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2011.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-26 14:38 EDT-0400

 

EDIT: for mouse and keyboard try these two

Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse (910-005280) - PCPartPicker

Logitech G413 SE Wired Gaming Keyboard (920-010442) - PCPartPicker

and yeah, Acer Predator GM7000 WD Black SN850X,

 

30 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

GPU: 343.916mm in length

could also get shorter GPU that's also cheaper, there's really almost no difference in them really, @filpo's list has a cheaper and shorter GPU

[Jal Hardin]

Thank you for the replies. I changed the case which happens to fit a full ATX mobo so I changed the mobo as well. I Updated the RAM & SSD based on recommendations. The only reason I did not change the GPU to PowerColor is because the ref cards are said to have coil whine. Finally, I added the recommended kb and mouse. The motherboard is picked out of a hat... full of other B560 mobos. Should I keep it? I don't care about wifi but the non wifi version was even more expensive.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4vfKL9

 

Anyone want to convince me I need that 7800x3d? Or to swap it out for a 7700X?

[BentleyOwen123]

looks good! i think youll be much happier with the o11, and the b560 will perform the same as any other b560, which in reality will perform the same as any other am5 motherboard. and an xfx will perform just the same as any 7900xtx.

[BentleyOwen123]

6 minutes ago, Jal Hardin said:

Thank you for the replies. I changed the case which happens to fit a full ATX mobo so I changed the mobo as well. I Updated the RAM & SSD based on recommendations. The only reason I did not change the GPU to PowerColor is because the ref cards are said to have coil whine. Finally, I added the recommended kb and mouse. The motherboard is picked out of a hat... full of other B560 mobos. Should I keep it? I don't care about wifi but the non wifi version was even more expensive.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4vfKL9

 

Anyone want to convince me I need that 7800x3d? Or to swap it out for a 7700X?

hmmm, for low resolution (1080 1440) you might not notice a difference, but in 4k and doing 3d modeling or anything else like video editing, the upgrade is worth it, although you could go 7900x maybe, if it fits in your budget 

[BentleyOwen123]

7900x    $390

7700x3d   $370

[Jal Hardin]

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[BentleyOwen123]

like it can only support over 6400+? ive never heard of that

[Jal Hardin]

I'm new to amazon. Does this mean it might take 2 weeks to arrive? Everything but the CPU will be here in two days. I could get it Friday from Newegg for a little bit more.

[BentleyOwen123]

2 hours ago, Jal Hardin said:

I'm new to amazon. Does this mean it might take 2 weeks to arrive? Everything but the CPU will be here in two days. I could get it Friday from Newegg for a little bit more.

yes it does, i would recomend the one on newegg but not if its over $20 more, and thats  very weird, its sold and shipped by amazon but they wont offer you prime shipping?

[Jal Hardin]

Thank you for all the help and information. I will place the orders tomorrow. 

 

-J