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54 minutes ago, Neko_UwU said:

I will be adding networking to my garage that is like 30-50ft away.

I've heard direct burial rj45 is not advised as lightning/etc can damage all the equipment, so i have two options i could do [and am willing to do, to stay within unifi, which i'm comfortable with], and I'm curious which you all would choose OF these two. (also a question or two in red.)

 

Option 1:
Main house router
(already have in house basement) - UDM PRO

(Q1) Fiber, Direct attach cable (30m, to connect UDM PRO to Switch in garage)https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/accessory-tech-cabling/collections/accessories-pro-direct-attach-cables/products/10-gbps-active-optical-cable?variant=uacc-aoc-sfp10-30m 

(Q2) Housing/protection for the buried fiber - ??? (I hear people use "smooth wall", but i don't know if a individual consumer can buy that without paying extraordinaire amounts; is there anything yall would recommend? i hear flexible pvc (schedule 40) won't stop water from going through, so i assume that's not good for fiber.

Switch for in garage (where majority of devices will be connected) - https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/products/usw-pro-24-poe 

(Q3) I assume not, but do i need one of these Optical Module's, for the UDM pro and Switch's SFP ports? (Or no, since the cable above says "SFP+ to SFP+ connector")https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-addons/collections/accessories-pro-long-distance-modules/products/1-gbps-bidirectional-single-mode-optical-module or https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-addons/collections/accessories-pro-long-distance-modules/products/1-gbps-multi-mode-optical-module ?

 

Option 2:

Main house router (already have in house basement) - UDM PRO

Building bridgehttps://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-wifi/products/ubb 

ethernet surge protectorhttps://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/wifi-building-bridge/products/ethernet-surge-protector 

Switch for in garage (where majority of devices will be connected) - https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/products/usw-pro-24-poe 

 

I assume option 1 will be cheaper, the fiber cable isn't that expensive, and unless the shielding/protection it needs in the ground is crazy expensive, i assume it would be cheaper but more manual labor intensive than option 2. I was worried about latency with the building bridge, but on videos i saw they were only getting like 5ms which mine is about the same.

 

Please, Help me with Q1/Q2/Q3 please, and which option would be recommended between the two options, i would greatly appreciate it.

Please understand, I am only slightly network literate, and that i would like to stay inside the unifi ecosystem, even if i'm paying more.

Use direct burial cable, then you don't need to worry about conduit.

 

 

https://www.fs.com/products/106591.html?attribute=34989&id=614942

I will be adding networking to my garage that is like 30-50ft away.

I've heard direct burial rj45 is not advised as lightning/etc can damage all the equipment, so i have two options i could do [and am willing to do, to stay within unifi, which i'm comfortable with], and I'm curious which you all would choose OF these two. (also a question or two in red.)

 

Option 1:
Main house router
(already have in house basement) - UDM PRO

(Q1) Fiber, Direct attach cable (30m, to connect UDM PRO to Switch in garage)https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/accessory-tech-cabling/collections/accessories-pro-direct-attach-cables/products/10-gbps-active-optical-cable?variant=uacc-aoc-sfp10-30m 

(Q2) Housing/protection for the buried fiber - ??? (I hear people use "smooth wall", but i don't know if a individual consumer can buy that without paying extraordinaire amounts; is there anything yall would recommend? i hear flexible pvc (schedule 40) won't stop water from going through, so i assume that's not good for fiber.

Switch for in garage (where majority of devices will be connected) - https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/products/usw-pro-24-poe 

(Q3) I assume not, but do i need one of these Optical Module's, for the UDM pro and Switch's SFP ports? (Or no, since the cable above says "SFP+ to SFP+ connector")https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-addons/collections/accessories-pro-long-distance-modules/products/1-gbps-bidirectional-single-mode-optical-module or https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-addons/collections/accessories-pro-long-distance-modules/products/1-gbps-multi-mode-optical-module ?

 

Option 2:

Main house router (already have in house basement) - UDM PRO

Building bridgehttps://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-wifi/products/ubb 

ethernet surge protectorhttps://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/wifi-building-bridge/products/ethernet-surge-protector 

Switch for in garage (where majority of devices will be connected) - https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/products/usw-pro-24-poe 

 

I assume option 1 will be cheaper, the fiber cable isn't that expensive, and unless the shielding/protection it needs in the ground is crazy expensive, i assume it would be cheaper but more manual labor intensive than option 2. I was worried about latency with the building bridge, but on videos i saw they were only getting like 5ms which mine is about the same.

 

Please, Help me with Q1/Q2/Q3 please, and which option would be recommended between the two options, i would greatly appreciate it.

Please understand, I am only slightly network literate, and that i would like to stay inside the unifi ecosystem, even if i'm paying more.

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54 minutes ago, Neko_UwU said:

I will be adding networking to my garage that is like 30-50ft away.

I've heard direct burial rj45 is not advised as lightning/etc can damage all the equipment, so i have two options i could do [and am willing to do, to stay within unifi, which i'm comfortable with], and I'm curious which you all would choose OF these two. (also a question or two in red.)

 

Option 1:
Main house router
(already have in house basement) - UDM PRO

(Q1) Fiber, Direct attach cable (30m, to connect UDM PRO to Switch in garage)https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/accessory-tech-cabling/collections/accessories-pro-direct-attach-cables/products/10-gbps-active-optical-cable?variant=uacc-aoc-sfp10-30m 

(Q2) Housing/protection for the buried fiber - ??? (I hear people use "smooth wall", but i don't know if a individual consumer can buy that without paying extraordinaire amounts; is there anything yall would recommend? i hear flexible pvc (schedule 40) won't stop water from going through, so i assume that's not good for fiber.

Switch for in garage (where majority of devices will be connected) - https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/products/usw-pro-24-poe 

(Q3) I assume not, but do i need one of these Optical Module's, for the UDM pro and Switch's SFP ports? (Or no, since the cable above says "SFP+ to SFP+ connector")https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-addons/collections/accessories-pro-long-distance-modules/products/1-gbps-bidirectional-single-mode-optical-module or https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-addons/collections/accessories-pro-long-distance-modules/products/1-gbps-multi-mode-optical-module ?

 

Option 2:

Main house router (already have in house basement) - UDM PRO

Building bridgehttps://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-wifi/products/ubb 

ethernet surge protectorhttps://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/wifi-building-bridge/products/ethernet-surge-protector 

Switch for in garage (where majority of devices will be connected) - https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/products/usw-pro-24-poe 

 

I assume option 1 will be cheaper, the fiber cable isn't that expensive, and unless the shielding/protection it needs in the ground is crazy expensive, i assume it would be cheaper but more manual labor intensive than option 2. I was worried about latency with the building bridge, but on videos i saw they were only getting like 5ms which mine is about the same.

 

Please, Help me with Q1/Q2/Q3 please, and which option would be recommended between the two options, i would greatly appreciate it.

Please understand, I am only slightly network literate, and that i would like to stay inside the unifi ecosystem, even if i'm paying more.

Use direct burial cable, then you don't need to worry about conduit.

 

 

https://www.fs.com/products/106591.html?attribute=34989&id=614942

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1 hour ago, Blue4130 said:

Use direct burial cable, then you don't need to worry about conduit.

 

 

https://www.fs.com/products/106591.html?attribute=34989&id=614942

So that cable and this optical module [https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-addons/collections/accessories-pro-long-distance-modules/products/uacc-om-sm-10g-d?variant=uacc-om-sm-10g-d-2] , between the router and switch?

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Personally I would run the direct bury fiber, and then run a conduit with a pull cord next to it in case you need to change something or have an issue with the buried fiber.

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27 minutes ago, Bdavis said:

Personally I would run the direct bury fiber, and then run a conduit with a pull cord next to it in case you need to change something or have an issue with the buried fiber.

Why? If you are going to go through the trouble of a conduit, why use the direct burial anyway? Just go with standard fiber and a pull cord. The whole point of dirct bury is so that you don't need to run conduit and can save cost overall.

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