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[Hylkedu]

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

Heresy?

 

I'm thinking, could bios somehow cause an issue like that or not likely?

 

this is what i am thinking but i dont know where to look!

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Hylkedu said:

 

this is what i am thinking but i dont know where to look!

in bios, if you know how to enable XMP, checking bios version should be walk through kindergarten as such basic crucial info should be presented at the "front page" of it

[Hylkedu]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

and was that with the 10900f? if so did that work as expected?

 

check your PCIe lane width for SSD and GPU in bios. Should be somewhere around PCIe device settings in advanced

 

was it around the same fps as with the 4070 ti? Was the CPU usage at 100% as well?

 

What're you using to cool the CPU?

maybe if they're on a beta one 

@Hylkedu try updating to a previous bios (but not from too long ago) that isn't beta if yours is. Even if your bios isn't beta I'd try it anyway

Also try reseating your CPU, RAM, Motherboard and all power connectors

1 YES it worked as expected

 

2 not sure how to do this and where to look but i will try

 

3 yes indeed

 

4 i use watercooling h150 corsair

 

5 i updated bios drivers multipile times also from older versions

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Hylkedu said:

1 YES it worked as expected

did you change anything else when you upgraded to the 4070 Ti?

 

3 minutes ago, Hylkedu said:

2 not sure how to do this and where to look but i will try

should be in advanced and in a place that has 'PCIe' in it

[Agall]

5 minutes ago, Hylkedu said:

1 YES it worked as expected

 

2 not sure how to do this and where to look but i will try

 

3 yes indeed

 

4 i use watercooling h150 corsair

 

5 i updated bios drivers multipile times also from older versions

Have you run Cinebench R23, single run all core on your 10900f?

 

Should see around 10500-11000, although that's a huge gap from the 10900k, more than it should be, so potentially even as high as 14000.

 

Intel Core i9 10900F vs Intel Core i9 10900K : Which one is better? (topcpu.net)

 

As well as making sure you've fully seated your 2x8pin EPS connectors into the top left of your motherboard when upgrading PSUs. You should have at least 8 pins fully seated, otherwise, you could be arbitrarily limiting the CPU to 100W if you happen to only have a 4 pin seated.

[Hylkedu]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

did you change anything else when you upgraded to the 4070 Ti?

 

should be in advanced and in a place that has 'PCIe' in it

1 yes the motherboard and the case! and the cooler!

 

2 i will loook at it now!

[Hylkedu]

2 minutes ago, Agall said:

Have you run Cinebench R23, single run all core on your 10900f?

 

Should see around 10500-11000, although that's a huge gap from the 10900k, more than it should be, so potentially even as high as 14000.

 

Intel Core i9 10900F vs Intel Core i9 10900K : Which one is better? (topcpu.net)

ill download it now

 

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Hylkedu said:

1 yes the motherboard and the case! and the cooler!

could be the motherboard then. Case won't affect performance apart from thermals and same with cooler (but you're fine in the thermals side)

try the R23 run first though, tell us power usage and temps while it's going

[Hylkedu]

3 minutes ago, Agall said:

Have you run Cinebench R23, single run all core on your 10900f?

 

Should see around 10500-11000, although that's a huge gap from the 10900k, more than it should be, so potentially even as high as 14000.

 

Intel Core i9 10900F vs Intel Core i9 10900K : Which one is better? (topcpu.net)

 

As well as making sure you've fully seated your 2x8pin EPS connectors into the top left of your motherboard when upgrading PSUs. You should have at least 8 pins fully seated, otherwise, you could be arbitrarily limiting the CPU to 100W if you happen to only have a 4 pin seated.

1 ill try to run the cinebench now!

 

2 in the topleft of my motherboard there is an 8 pin and a 4 pin connected!

[Agall]

3 minutes ago, Hylkedu said:

ill download it now

 

I added this after, but its worth investigating:

 

As well as making sure you've fully seated your 2x8pin EPS connectors into the top left of your motherboard when upgrading PSUs. You should have at least 8 pins fully seated, otherwise, you could be arbitrarily limiting the CPU to 100W if you happen to only have a 4 pin seated.

 

I'd ensure 4 + 8 EPS to the CPU power connectors are properly seated on both ends. A machine will POST and be fine with just a single 4 pin plugged in, but it'll TDP limit the CPU to around 100W.

 

Cinebench R23 should show if that's potentially part of the issue too.

[Hylkedu]

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

could be the motherboard then. Case won't affect performance apart from thermals and same with cooler (but you're fine in the thermals side)

try the R23 run first though, tell us power usage and temps while it's going

[filpo]

Just now, Hylkedu said:

Is geheugen clock the clock speed? if so it looks low, really low. Wait for the test to finish and tell us the score

[Hylkedu]

if anyone want to talk on discord it is much better for me to explain maybe i am kinda desperate

[Hylkedu]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

Is geheugen clock the clock speed? if so it looks low, really low. Wait for the test to finish and tell us the score

i disablde xmp before i did this test!
the points aree 13622

[filpo]

Just now, Hylkedu said:

i disablde xmp before i did this test!
the points aree 13622

not bad, around what I'd expect. Is the problem in game still happening?

@Agall this is what they got above

[Hylkedu]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

not bad, around what I'd expect. Is the problem in game still happening?

@Agall this is what they got above

yes still like 30 fps on chivalry2 and like 30 fps on battlefield

 

[PDifolco]

Just now, Hylkedu said:

yes still like 30 fps on chivalry2 and like 30 fps on battlefield

 

Don't see your answers about

Mobo slot used

Pcie GPU configuration (to check in GPU-Z)

Pcie limiter (power voltage clock) in GPU-Z too

[Agall]

1 minute ago, Hylkedu said:

yes still like 30 fps on chivalry2 and like 30 fps on battlefield

 

Have GPU-Z running while a game is in the background to verify PCIe version and feature support like ReBAR.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Hylkedu said:

yes still like 30 fps on chivalry2 and like 30 fps on battlefield

 

How was RAM usage in game? VRAM usage? 

use msi afterburner's OSD to check 

 

[PDifolco]

35 minutes ago, podkall said:

Heresy?

 

I'm thinking, could bios somehow cause an issue like that or not likely?

Possible if it's setup in pcie gen2 X4  or such...but not probable

[Hylkedu]

3 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Don't see your answers about

Mobo slot used

Pcie GPU configuration (to check in GPU-Z)

Pcie limiter (power voltage clock) in GPU-Z too

HI

1 i am not sure what a mobo slot is i am so sorry

 

2 ill try to run gpu-z

[filpo]

Just now, Hylkedu said:

1 i am not sure what a mobo slot is i am so sorry

it's the slot you put your GPU in (your motherboard PCIe slot)

[Hylkedu]

[Hylkedu]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

it's the slot you put your GPU in (your motherboard PCIe slot)

aah i understand now! thanks for explaining 

i tried using both slots but same outcome

[Hylkedu]

10 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Possible if it's setup in pcie gen2 X4  or such...but not probable

you can get  something out of this data?