Found a server on Facebook marketplace should I get it or should I not I’m not too informed on xeon or anything so I don’t know if this is any good

[MaplePlays173]

they want 450$ 

[da na]

Pretty solid chips. Used to have a dual e5-2697v1 workstation and they really deliver on multi-core performance. I'd say $450 is a pretty fair price for that but maybe offer em 380-400$ first.

[MaplePlays173]

5 minutes ago, da na said:

Pretty solid chips. Used to have a dual e5-2697v1 workstation and they really deliver on multi-core performance. I'd say $450 is a pretty fair price for that but maybe offer em 380-400$ first.

I didn’t think the price sounded too bad either. It’s just I don’t know much about xeon really at all I also know it has a couple, hard drives I think it has a SFP card in it not sure. hopefully I can get it.

[da na]

5 minutes ago, MaplePlays173 said:

I didn’t think the price sounded too bad either. It’s just I don’t know much about xeon really at all I also know it has a couple, hard drives I think it has a SFP card in it not sure. hopefully I can get it.

Those CPUs are 14 cores 28 threads each, so together you'll get 56 threads 64GB RAM for $450. Really great price there - just unless you're running very specific applications that actually use 56 threads, if you need just a server in general you could probably find a cheaper one. Single-core performance on these Xeons is not great - my 72-thread E5-2697v4 system has similar single core performance to a 2nd gen Core i5 chip - but all of those cores combined will still blow away a brand new CPU if used right. 
So, in short, good price but just make sure you really need all those cores before committing. 

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, da na said:

So, in short, good price but just make sure you really need all those cores before committing. 

^^^ For most home NAS/VM use a simple modern 4c/8t chip is plenty, NAS duties are single-threaded and many VMs can even share a single core, depending on the hypervisor you use and what they're doing. Or obviously you can run containers in the host OS or a VM and they'll share whatever resources are available.

 

If you do think you'll use all those threads, it is a solid machine, just keep in mind that it will pull a good chunk of power, and servers can be incredibly loud. Usually you can spin the fans down a lot though, without running into thermal issues.

[MaplePlays173]

1 hour ago, da na said:

Those CPUs are 14 cores 28 threads each, so together you'll get 56 threads 64GB RAM for $450. Really great price there - just unless you're running very specific applications that actually use 56 threads, if you need just a server in general you could probably find a cheaper one. Single-core performance on these Xeons is not great - my 72-thread E5-2697v4 system has similar single core performance to a 2nd gen Core i5 chip - but all of those cores combined will still blow away a brand new CPU if used right. 
So, in short, good price but just make sure you really need all those cores before committing. 

 

1 hour ago, Zando_ said:

^^^ For most home NAS/VM use a simple modern 4c/8t chip is plenty, NAS duties are single-threaded and many VMs can even share a single core, depending on the hypervisor you use and what they're doing. Or obviously you can run containers in the host OS or a VM and they'll share whatever resources are available.

 

If you do think you'll use all those threads, it is a solid machine, just keep in mind that it will pull a good chunk of power, and servers can be incredibly loud. Usually you can spin the fans down a lot though, without running into thermal issues.

it's going to be used as a  VMS box  and mostly Game Servers so probably

[Crunchy Dragon]

I am in agreement with @da na and @Zando_, but I will also mention that a rackmounted system probably isn't the best first server around.

 

A tower server like a Dell PrecisionTower, Lenovo ThinkStation, some of the tower-style HP ProLiants, or even building your own server in a standard ATX case would be a more user-friendly route.

[MaplePlays173]

53 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I am in agreement with @da na and @Zando_, but I will also mention that a rackmounted system probably isn't the best first server around.

 

A tower server like a Dell PrecisionTower, Lenovo ThinkStation, some of the tower-style HP ProLiants, or even building your own server in a standard ATX case would be a more user-friendly route.

yeah probably not the smartest idea but I can make something work

[edit I was mostly talking about the rack mount]

[Zando_]

32 minutes ago, MaplePlays173 said:

yeah probably not the smartest idea but I can make something work

It's only a good deal if you'll actually use it.

 

If you want an actual good deal, then that depends on what exactly you're doing with it. As noted you're probably better served with a mainstream platform unless you actually need 52 threads.

 

If you just want a Xeon server for the hell of it, then who am I to stop you. I use HEDT (basically Xeons but without some workstation/server features) for gaming because I think the platforms are neat.