DDR5 Question

[Sir Judgementz]

Hi all,

have a question for all you smart men and women out there. I have a Asrock X670E Pro RS. with Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CAS Latency 36, Timings 36-36-36-76, and a AMD Ryzen 7800X3D. If i get another 2 sticks of that ram will i beable to run it at full 6000 MHz or will i have to go lower? thank you all for your time.

[TatamiMatt]

5 minutes ago, Sir Judgementz said:

Hi all,

have a question for all you smart men and women out there. I have a Asrock X670E Pro RS. with Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CAS Latency 36, Timings 36-36-36-76, and a AMD Ryzen 7800X3D. If i get another 2 sticks of that ram will i beable to run it at full 6000 MHz or will i have to go lower? thank you all for your time.

You might have to go lower as DDR5 doesnt do well with quad channel, though youve got dominator platinum and 6000CL36 so slightly easier to run than the minimum CL (30) on 6000MT/s RAM and well bineed hynix a dies, so theres a good possibility it might work, but youre taking a chance regardless, is there any reason you need the full 64GB?

[Sir Judgementz]

not really, kind of like 4 sticks and ram rgb lol

 

[RONOTHAN##]

26 minutes ago, Sir Judgementz said:

If i get another 2 sticks of that ram will i beable to run it at full 6000 MHz or will i have to go lower?

Maybe? 4 DIMMs on any DDR5 platform is incredibly sketchy and likely to run into issues, so while you can get it to work, it generally requires quite a bit of effort that isn't worth while, and you might be forced to run a lower speed like 3600 or 4000MT/s. 

 

19 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

so slightly easier to run than the minimum CL (30) on 6000MT/s RAM and well bineed hynix a dies

I'd actually fight you on this, the reason why Hynix A die is liked so much is because it's very easy for the memory controller to run and has had more BIOS optimizations made for it, so while the CAS latency is tighter it's still more likely to work than 4x16GB of Samsung based DIMMs. Besides, timings don't really care about the memory controller quality, only on the DIMM quality. 

 

1 minute ago, Sir Judgementz said:

not really, kind of like 4 sticks and ram rgb lol

 

Stick to 2 DIMMs if possible. This isn't worth getting more DIMMs for. 

[TatamiMatt]

1 minute ago, RONOTHAN## said:

I'd actually fight you on this, the reason why Hynix A die is liked so much is because it's very easy for the memory controller to run and has had more BIOS optimizations made for it, so while the CAS latency is tighter it's still more likely to work than 4x16GB of Samsung based DIMMs. Besides, timings don't really care about the memory controller quality, only on the DIMM quality. 

I think ive worded this really badly, what im trying to say is, as theyve got hynix a dies, itll be easier to run

 

and also, theyll be slightly easier to run due to the less tight timings?

 

 

To reword my original post:

 

so these RAM sticks will slightly easier to run than the minimum CL (30) that you see on other 6000MT/s RAM and on top of that, they have well binned hynix a dies.

 

Am i wrong on this?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

6 minutes ago, Sir Judgementz said:

not really, kind of like 4 sticks and ram rgb lol

Just buy some fake rams to fill the extra slots, usually sold as lighting kits

 

1 minute ago, TatamiMatt said:

so these RAM sticks will slightly easier to run than the minimum CL (30) that you see on other 6000MT/s RAM and on top of that, they have well binned hynix a dies.

Afaik hynix a die is consistent and i dont think corsair does any special binning for their dominator sticks, just a fancy heatspreader with lights and a massive upcharge for the same shit you can get on a 6000c30/32 or 6400c32 bin xmp

 

technically those xmp sticks are just overpriced 5600c46 sticks you can get directly from hynix or klevv or tforce elite which comes with a die even though its 5600c46 bin and they arent a division of hynix like klevv is, but you are paying for the xmp here not just a fancy plastic "heatspreader"

[Sir Judgementz]

thaanks tatamimatt, and somerandomtechyboi i dont think theres a DDR5 fake lighting kit yet but thanks for trying

 

[RONOTHAN##]

13 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

as theyve got hynix a dies, itll be easier to run

They don't actually have A die (at least probably). 6000 CL36 is almost always Samsung 16Gb B die, which doesn't actually clock that well. Even if by some miracle they do have A die, buying another kit isn't likely to be A die. 

 

14 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

and also, theyll be slightly easier to run due to the less tight timings?

Not really. Again, timings don't really affect how easy a kit to run with multiple DIMMs, it's more how temperature sensitive it would be. 

[TatamiMatt]

6 minutes ago, Sir Judgementz said:

thaanks tatamimatt, and somerandomtechyboi i dont think theres a DDR5 fake lighting kit yet but thanks for trying

 

I believe Vcolor makes some but they have something like "intel only" on them, im not sure why or if that is true but they have it there so 

 

https://v-color.net/collections/ddr5-rgb-filler-kit

[TatamiMatt]

1 hour ago, RONOTHAN## said:

They don't actually have A die (at least probably). 6000 CL36 is almost always Samsung 16Gb B die, which doesn't actually clock that well. Even if by some miracle they do have A die, buying another kit isn't likely to be A die. 

 

Not really. Again, timings don't really affect how easy a kit to run with multiple DIMMs, it's more how temperature sensitive it would be. 

Ah i see, good to know! Thanks!

[Sir Judgementz]

thank you all