Threads keep going cold

[Poinkachu]

41 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

OK - I'm gonna pull the pin on this grenade with it right in my face........

It's like they want attention - Pure and simple but they're not getting it either in the way of or by how much they want. 
From the way the post is worded, that's all I can make of it that makes any sense to me.

No, I'm not going to search their profile to register another visit (Hit) by the numbers just so I can chase around whatever threads/posts they have. 

Well... considering what he considered an issue is : some of his threads going cold before he mark it solved, wanting people to keep posting (assumedly) more possible solutions until he puts on the mark.

 

I guess it kinda is.

[Beerzerker]

6 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Well... considering what he considered an issue is : some of his threads going cold before he mark it solved, wanting people to keep posting (assumedly) more possible solutions.

 

Kinda.

For that part of it, from what I can understand is they are expecting it to be marked as "Solved" automatically, which as we know doesn't happen, or maybe expecting the staff to do it.

It's like someone somewhere else had said before in not so many words:
"If you don't get many replies or even none, that just means no one has an answer to give you and complaining about it isn't going to help either."
It's not a matter of anything being marked, it's a simple fact of the above.

[Indian pc builder]

On 1/28/2024 at 7:53 PM, filpo said:

people might get stuck and instead of telling you that they're stuck, just leave

It happens in all forums

 

It happens to everyone, me included. I mostly figure it out myself but people might be busy or forget to check their notifs after they wake up and get on the forum

Some examples of mine (I appreciate the help from everyone who posted in my threads )

Some don't even get replies (but I've asked him a few days ago and it's solved)

Ok. So it doesn’t just happen to me. 
See the main issue is that people seem to have a tendency to leave the thread mid sentence sometimes. Like when the middle of the conversation is going on and I’ve mentioned their response in the post and they just suddenly stop responding on the thread

On 1/28/2024 at 8:01 PM, Poinkachu said:

Naw.
Pretty sure it's "You having issues about some of your threads going cold"

Not that I know full well, but pretty sure the forum itself wasn't made as a troubleshooting forum. So, the forum itself couldn't care less.

 

Even in big names's forums, like Microsoft, Lenovo, Nvidia, etc. And those are supposed to have an easier access to engineers working in those companies.

And yea, even in a truly troubleshooting forum, there will be cold threads / unsolved questions.

 

If no one is able to solve it currently then they won't post, and IMO it's much better than people just posting whatever and convolute the threads.

 

I understand that having unsolved problems with our own devices can be frustating. I have had my fair share of it too afterall.

But I can't expect people to keep trying to find a solution for me, especially if I am not paying them.

I agree I can’t just have free help. But at the same time, don’t do it like a free trial where it works for some time and then just stops and hides behind a paywall.

On 1/28/2024 at 8:25 PM, Eigenvektor said:

This. You need to keep in mind that people here aren't paid employees of a company providing you with tech support for one of their products. People are here of their own volition. They spend their own time in an attempt to help you. If people either can't or no longer want to help (for whatever reason), they are free to do so.

 

I get that it sucks. But ask yourself: How much of your own time would you be willing to spend on an issue somebody else is facing, if it turns out to either be frustratingly difficult, or the info you need simply isn't there (or forthcoming) and you have no way to poke at it yourself?

I mean it depends on the problem, whether I know how to solve it, or whether I’m feeling like it. Plus if the problem is really interesting or really obvious, the chance of anyone responding is much higher, not just me.

On 1/28/2024 at 8:57 PM, filpo said:

£20 an hour please

 

have you tried turning it off and on again?

Haha, while this is funny I would like it to note that the wages are actually closer to this much per hour,( calculated in dollars from the typical monthly salary for 30 8 hour work days )

note,this figure is in dollars per hour, the fact that in India the cost of living is quite low, this is actually a decent-ish wage.(ngl it’s still not the best, but u definitely won’t be close to impoverished and will be cemented well into the middle class) 

On 1/28/2024 at 10:46 PM, Murasaki said:

Probably not, was more of a joke but you never know. Theres other communities/sites that have a "solution" marked post, I wonder if they have such a system in place where mods go out of their way to mark things themselves or on demand.

I mean, in isolation as a thought, that type of system does feel practical but, also expensive to maintain bc usually u would need to hire paid ppl on the forum to do this.

On 1/28/2024 at 11:23 PM, Beerzerker said:

So...
Not getting enough responses to your posts.
As if that is or was ever a requirement for folks to post in your threads.... 
It's not.

And there are no less than 4 references about looking at your account with your post here...
WTF?

I dunno what's up with all that but I can say this:
No one but YOU can mark a thread as having a solution/being solved aside from the staff, and they won't do that unless YOU ask them to. 

 

In retrospect, the mentioning see my account 4 times want the best idea. I’m not asking for anyone to mark the thread as a solution for me. Never wanted that, all I want is for the conversation not to be dropped in the middle

On 1/29/2024 at 12:39 AM, Skiiwee29 said:

<-- Moved to Off Topic -->

 

As alluded, this is a public and open space. No one is obligated to help or provide you with an answer. If you're finding lot of other threads getting solved and yours aren't, then its likely the way your presenting your issue/situation that may be causing it. Try looking for alternative methods for presenting your information you're looking for help from. 

Yeah, it gets increasingly harder to classify this a forum issue as the scope becomes clearer. If the way I’m presenting it is the problem, any tips on what to do

On 1/29/2024 at 1:18 AM, Beerzerker said:

OK - I'm gonna pull the pin on this grenade with it right in my face........

It's like they want attention - Pure and simple but they're not getting it either in the way of or by how much they want. 
From the way the post is worded, that's all I can make of it that makes any sense to me.

No, I'm not going to search their profile to register another visit (Hit) by the numbers just so I can chase around whatever threads/posts they have. 

I need to work on that don’t I? I seem to have an issue with how my posts come across to people in tone and demeanour. I thought this was fixed by my signature, but apparently not. Any tips on how to not sound like this ?

 

 

Although(this part makes my sounding like I want attention worse, I promise it’s just more discussion)

It has seemed to work in the number of responses I have so….? Idk what u want me to say

On 1/29/2024 at 2:03 AM, Beerzerker said:

For that part of it, from what I can understand is they are expecting it to be marked as "Solved" automatically, which as we know doesn't happen, or maybe expecting the staff to do it.

It's like someone somewhere else had said before in not so many words:
"If you don't get many replies or even none, that just means no one has an answer to give you and complaining about it isn't going to help either."
It's not a matter of anything being marked, it's a simple fact of the above.

While I wholeheartedly agree, Thai principle only

applies to posts that haven’t received any response. What if it’s the middle of a conversation and he just stops responding. I mean, like a response saying “no clue mate” might be helpful

 

also I dug up a few example of posts where I have this problem( note im

not expecting any additional responses to these):

(Also goes to say don’t hold anything against @Falcon1986, he’s a really great dude who helped very much with this whole project)

 

(Same for everyone else who responded to these posts, they’re really great ppl, nothing against them)

 

 

 

Ok so the next one is part of the how should I present this better to get responses type of posts

Like this one is just a perfect example of the problem

 

these seem to be the most up to date examples of this issue. Thoughts everyone ?

[filpo]

1 hour ago, Indian pc builder said:

Haha, while this is funny I would like it to note that the wages are actually closer to this much per hour,( calculated in dollars from the typical monthly salary for 30 8 hour work days )

note,this figure is in dollars per hour, the fact that in India the cost of living is quite low, this is actually a decent-ish wage.(ngl it’s still not the best, but u definitely won’t be close to impoverished and will be cemented well into the middle class) 

what work is this for? Tech support online?

 

1 hour ago, Indian pc builder said:

I agree I can’t just have free help

well you definitely can, it just depends on what day someone's having, whether they can be bothered to help and maybe even the complexity of the problem. I quite like helping people, but if I can't (mostly because of an experience gap) then I just don't. I'm normally a build planner so I don't really dabble in troubleshooting or problems with specific parts but I try

 

1 hour ago, Indian pc builder said:

Ok. So it doesn’t just happen to me. 
See the main issue is that people seem to have a tendency to leave the thread mid sentence sometimes. Like when the middle of the conversation is going on and I’ve mentioned their response in the post and they just suddenly stop responding on the thread

It is frustrating, I know, but you could try other forums (techpowerup, pcpartpicker, tomshardware, reddit) and post your problem in multiple places even. I'm signed up in all of them (normally to give help not ask for it) but I'm still mostly active in this forum

[Poinkachu]

17 hours ago, Indian pc builder said:

I agree I can’t just have free help. But at the same time, don’t do it like a free trial where it works for some time and then just stops and hides behind a paywall.

That's somewhat a bad analogy, since no paywall or the likes is preventing people from giving more answer to you here.

And to be frank, me personally, that line alone is enough to make me almost puts you in ignore list.

 

They just either didn't feel like it anymore, or life caught up and can't really browse forum much / can't spend much time thinking about your problem.

Then who knows, maybe they forgot after life gives them more free time.

Especially since there's a bunch of other people who needs help at the same time.

 

If you really hate that, I suppose you can add a warning or something on every thread you make, maybe something like :

"Please don't reply to my question if you aren't going to be here & replying again until I mark it solved"

 

Hence, if you want support centered on you and for you, get a professional help.

 

[BoomerDutch]

Honestly, this is spot where come and go.

Some will stay some will leave.

Doesn't matter what reason.

 

They don't care or don't realise nor have energy to care every single person that posts.

 

Forum is more for patience people.

By reading threads and make 1 full page response.

 

If you want better than this i would suggest to go discord.

You get far quicker answers than forum people should know that.

 

 

 

 

Hmm yes.

[8tg]

Sometimes just not enough people really understand or are interested in the topics posted. This is a pretty broad tech forum mostly based around consumer tech and hobbyists. You don't really see a lot of specialized or niche stuff here.

 

There's like 2 people here who are common resources on gpu board repair, relative to the amount of posts which are about board damaged gpus. Everything else is outsider input, so responses to threads about issues like that are generalized. Not everyone will merit a generalized reply.

 

This also applies to vague or obscure questions. People don't really want to commit or involve in something too broad. I think that was the issue with your sick of Apple thread. Where you just said you were tired of Apple and wanted something different. But people had to prod to find what you would prefer, you don't know what you prefer. It gets too vague, people don't like keeping it too generalized, and they lose interest.

[Seccedonien]

So OP feels like they deserve a solution just because they make a forum post, am I understanding this correctly?

Also sometimes people are done with a conversation even if you aren't, that's life.

[Lunar River]

15 hours ago, Indian pc builder said:

Like when the middle of the conversation is going on and I’ve mentioned their response in the post and they just suddenly stop responding on the thread

well if someone has asked for more information to see if they can help, but the more information means a solution is beyond their knowledge, yes they are going to stop replying, which would be preferable to every person that has ever replied in a particular topic replying with "i dont know".

 

So lets go through each of the threads you linked and think about why they might have stopped replying:

rather specialized networking knowledge is needed about specific products that most people probably wouldn't just know.

 

you haven't really given a reason for what you want, so how can anyone give an answer on what is "best" when we dont know your usecase? someone asked why not just use normal thermal paste and the mounting hardware for your mother? you basically ignored their question and just asked "but what is best", which comes across as like you dont really understanding what you're asking.
 

In your opening post, you basically want people to hold your hand, which is something a lot of people probably don't want to have to do, again, comes across as like you dont really understanding what you're asking. i would look at that and think "well, i could try and get more information, but this person is clearly very very new to this, and done no research, if they dont even know if they need or want a streamdeck/goXLR, it is probably going to be too much effort"

 

which is justified by your reply:

Quote

also the guide is useless. Professional encoders? Just say buy an nvidia gpu with nvenc. Btw , do I need nvenc or can I use software encode in obs and use the good encoder built into the current get intel cpus

"just tell creators to get an nvidia GPU with nvenc...but do i even need nvenc?"

 

again, you're asking for help about a very specific product in a way that would put most people off "i have this, it doesn't work, why?" it would probably have been better off in the audio subforum, because that's where the people most likely able to help would be.
 

Again, very specific products and this time about compatibility, you even got an answer. you're basically looking for people that have the exact same setup that you want to get to verify if they work, which is an incredibly low number of people, who likely aren't on this forum. If you're aware of packet blocking, then you should be able to research this yourself, but since they are both TPlink products, i dont see why they would hamper their own range.

For this question, you would be better off reaching out to TPlink directly if you want to be 100% sure.

 

 

All in all, you come across as a bit too needy and potentially high maintenance, something you might what to work, as posting a "forum issue" because people aren't replying to your threads comes across really bad.

[Indian pc builder]

10 hours ago, Lunar River said:

well if someone has asked for more information to see if they can help, but the more information means a solution is beyond their knowledge, yes they are going to stop replying, which would be preferable to every person that has ever replied in a particular topic replying with "i dont know".

 

So lets go through each of the threads you linked and think about why they might have stopped replying:

rather specialized networking knowledge is needed about specific products that most people probably wouldn't just know.

 

you haven't really given a reason for what you want, so how can anyone give an answer on what is "best" when we dont know your usecase? someone asked why not just use normal thermal paste and the mounting hardware for your mother? you basically ignored their question and just asked "but what is best", which comes across as like you dont really understanding what you're asking.
 

In your opening post, you basically want people to hold your hand, which is something a lot of people probably don't want to have to do, again, comes across as like you dont really understanding what you're asking. i would look at that and think "well, i could try and get more information, but this person is clearly very very new to this, and done no research, if they dont even know if they need or want a streamdeck/goXLR, it is probably going to be too much effort"

 

which is justified by your reply:

"just tell creators to get an nvidia GPU with nvenc...but do i even need nvenc?"

 

again, you're asking for help about a very specific product in a way that would put most people off "i have this, it doesn't work, why?" it would probably have been better off in the audio subforum, because that's where the people most likely able to help would be.
 

Again, very specific products and this time about compatibility, you even got an answer. you're basically looking for people that have the exact same setup that you want to get to verify if they work, which is an incredibly low number of people, who likely aren't on this forum. If you're aware of packet blocking, then you should be able to research this yourself, but since they are both TPlink products, i dont see why they would hamper their own range.

For this question, you would be better off reaching out to TPlink directly if you want to be 100% sure.

 

 

All in all, you come across as a bit too needy and potentially high maintenance, something you might what to work, as posting a "forum issue" because people aren't replying to your threads comes across really bad.

thank you for the constructive criticism then

[Indian pc builder]

On 2/1/2024 at 6:42 PM, filpo said:

what work is this for? Tech support online?

yes, as previously stated, Indian wages align with the low cost of living in most places here.

 

DISCLAIMER: No actual jobs are being offered, its just a hypothetical situation on how much the wage would be

[filpo]

35 minutes ago, Indian pc builder said:

yes,

I searched it up and I got a job in... MANCHESTER???

35 minutes ago, Indian pc builder said:

DISCLAIMER: No actual jobs are being offered, its just a hypothetical situation on how much the wage would be

is it for tech support online?

[Indian pc builder]

53 minutes ago, filpo said:

I searched it up and I got a job in... MANCHESTER???

is it for tech support online?

what? no! by 'yes,' i meant YES its for online tech support, not 'yes,' as in a job thing

 

also u need to update edge

 

also the figure comes from a quick google search for what's the average salary for online tech support in India, followed by a conversion from INR to usd using 80 inr to 1 usd, the actual salary is 60k inr per month, or 7.2 L INR per year, which is actually on the high side as most pay packages are only 6L INR per year

 

 

EDIT: 1L INR = 100k inr (we use a different system instead of millions, billions, trillions, 100k and so on, 100k = 1Lakh or 1L and 100L = 1CR or 1crore

 

also again, this is meant as a joke, with representative salary figures, no real jobs!!!!\

 

by update edge i mean update windows bc edge comes with it 

 

also here's a currency convertor which is trusted by most Indian banks

https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=USD&To=INR

 

also that doesn't even account for other things like taxes, health benefits, leave etc. the actual take home pay is definitely less. Also goes without saying, unemployment is higher than usual here right now, attributing to lower wages

[filpo]

18 minutes ago, Indian pc builder said:

also u need to update edge

there's no update available. Sometimes co pilot pops up, sometimes it doesn't

20 minutes ago, Indian pc builder said:

online tech support

So you mean going to a place of work, putting on a headset and talking to people about their problems with tech? Or do you mean on this, like a forum and the more elite users get paid?

[Indian pc builder]

12 hours ago, filpo said:

there's no update available. Sometimes co pilot pops up, sometimes it doesn't

So you mean going to a place of work, putting on a headset and talking to people about their problems with tech? Or do you mean on this, like a forum and the more elite users get paid?

Not a place of work, going to the house of the person who has tech problems and fixing it there and coming back pays this much in India, keep in mind Indian cost of living is low