Help me choose

[BallzDeep]

13th gen I7 13700f, liquid cooled  16gb ddr4 3200,  geforce rtx 3060 8gb, 1 tb nvme m.2

 

Or

 

13th gen I5 13400f, fan cooled, 16 gb ddr5 5200,

Rtx 4060 8g, 1tb nvme m.2 

 

Not sure what would be the better of the two  

I know these will get me about a year till they are complete obsolete. But this is what i can afford. For a pre build 

[emosun]

7 minutes ago, BallzDeep said:

I know these will get me about a year till they are complete obsolete.

it's not the 1990s anymore , you can run a machine for as long as you want. case and point: typing this from a 2011 HP dv6 on windows 7

given the two options i'd probably just go for the 4060 build to extend it's driver lifespan but neither machine has enough info to really determine the quality or longevity of the parts being used.

[podkall]

What's your use case going to be with your PC? Do you currently have a PC and if so which games you play or struggle to play but would like to?

 

Are pre-builts the only options?

[ImWilly]

Frankly, I would avoid both since the GPU is either 3060 or 4060, especially with prebuild that cost $1000

I would at least consider if it's 4060 TI, but no less than that

 

Is there any other prebuilt list that you have checked?

[BallzDeep]

Ive had an alienware for 13 years now, steam no longer supports windows 7 , so im forced to upgrade. Cant even play 7 days to die anymore without windows 10 or better. 

 

[BallzDeep]

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

What's your use case going to be with your PC? Do you currently have a PC and if so which games you play or struggle to play but would like to?

 

Are pre-builts the only options?

Whatever case it comes with. 

[emosun]

1 minute ago, BallzDeep said:

Ive had an alienware for 13 years now, steam no longer supports windows 7 , so im forced to upgrade. Cant even play 7 days to die anymore without windows 10 or better. 

 

have you tried installing windows 10

[BallzDeep]

3 minutes ago, ImWilly said:

Frankly, I would avoid both since the GPU is either 3060 or 4060, especially with prebuild that cost $1000

I would at least consider if it's 4060 TI, but no less than that

 

Is there any other prebuilt list that you have checked?

I really want the rx 6700 xt but dosent support ray tracing 

[BallzDeep]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

have you tried installing windows 10

Not supported

[podkall]

5 minutes ago, BallzDeep said:

Whatever case it comes with. 

"use case" aka "what you will do with that PC when you finally have it home?" (play games, video-editing, programming, 3D modelling, all of the above)

[BallzDeep]

2 minutes ago, BallzDeep said:

I really want the rx 6700 xt but dosent support ray tracing 

Also the TI is like a 5% jump from the  non ti so why pay more  

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, BallzDeep said:

Not supported

it should be , if the machine supports 7 then it'll run 10. there shouldn't be any drivers a stock alienware has that aren't available in 10

[venomtail]

I'd pick the i7. The margin between the 400f and 700f is significantly bigger than the 3060 to 4060. Better future upgradability.

[podkall]

1 minute ago, venomtail said:

I'd pick the i7. The margin between the 400f and 700f is significantly bigger than the 3060 to 4060. Better future upgradability.

I'd pick a system with 7600 CPU, but I think those are 100$ overbudget unfortunately, at least for pre-builts

[BallzDeep]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

it should be , if the machine supports 7 then it'll run 10. there shouldn't be any drivers a stock alienware has that aren't available in 10

When i try to update to windows 10 it tells me that my processor isnt supported.

xeon 12 core LGA not sure the exact number.

Liquid cooled 

16 gb ddr3 3200, 

Gtx 960 ssc kingpin 

4tb storage ssd Ran in raid. 

[PC HEROES]

6 minutes ago, BallzDeep said:

I really want the rx 6700 xt but dosent support ray tracing 

Hello... The RX 6700 XT does have Ray Tracing, it's just not as good as NVIDIA. Please have a look at this Build I have for you and let me know what you think.

 

I have been building PCs for over 30 years so if you have any questions please ask. For future communication I use Discord for much faster response times as I have it open 24/7. Here is my Discord: Wizardsnapper#2772 I am also available if you need help before, during, or after the Build process on Discord through Voice or Video Chat. I can be with you while you build your new PC if you need me to be.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gTfRCd

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith RGB Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($107.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 112R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1016.22

[venomtail]

4 minutes ago, podkall said:

I'd pick a system with 7600 CPU, but I think those are 100$ overbudget unfortunately, at least for pre-builts

Where is 7600? I only see choice of 2 Intel systems. Neither that great.

[BallzDeep]

4 minutes ago, PC HEROES said:

Hello... The RX 6700 XT does have Ray Tracing, it's just not as good as NVIDIA. Please have a look at this Build I have for you and let me know what you think.

 

I have been building PCs for over 30 years so if you have any questions please ask. For future communication I use Discord for much faster response times as I have it open 24/7. Here is my Discord: Wizardsnapper#2772 I am also available if you need help before, during, or after the Build process on Discord through Voice or Video Chat. I can be with you while you build your new PC if you need me to be.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gTfRCd

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith RGB Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($107.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 112R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1016.22

Seems cool, im not a fan of AMD tho. My intel has been more than reliable. So im sticking to what i know best 

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Where is 7600? I only see choice of 2 Intel systems. Neither that great.

on ibuypower website there's 1100$ prebuilt with 7600:

 

1 minute ago, BallzDeep said:

Seems cool, im not a fan of AMD tho. My intel has been more than reliable. So im sticking to what i know best 

and you stick to Intel because you know or because you've been running an Intel system for 13 years?

[BallzDeep]

14 minutes ago, podkall said:

"use case" aka "what you will do with that PC when you finally have it home?" (play games, video-editing, programming, 3D modelling, all of the above)

All of the above 

[podkall]

9 minutes ago, PC HEROES said:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.00 @ Amazon)

why X?

[BallzDeep]

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

on ibuypower website there's 1100$ prebuilts with 7600:

 

and you stick to Intel because you know or because you've been running an Intel system for 13 years?

All my pc's have been intel. I know my way aroud them and how to service and use there features best for me. 

 

Amd just has a bunch of bloat ware attached to them.  If you need 5 programs to run your cpu and monitor it. To me that just a huge headache 

[venomtail]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

on ibuypower website there's 1100$ prebuilt with 7600:

 

and you stick to Intel because you know or because you've been running an Intel system for 13 years?

Still pretty bad. 4060 with slow ram. We don't even know what sort of case it is nor motherboard. For all we know they could be shaving fat margins and give you a mATX motherboard in some cheapo ATX case. On PCPartPicker for RAM, storage, PSU, Case, Cooler we've got a fat $600 budget. For gaming I'm pretty sure the 7600 and 13700F are neck and neck. I'd just keep the $100 saving then.

[podkall]

Just now, BallzDeep said:

Amd just has a bunch of bloat ware attached to them.  If you need 5 programs to run your cpu and monitor it. To me that just a huge headache

but you don't need bloatware or 5 programs to monitor AMD CPU

[venomtail]

4 minutes ago, BallzDeep said:

Amd just has a bunch of bloat ware attached to them.  If you need 5 programs to run your cpu and monitor it. To me that just a huge headache 

Outdated stereotype that wasn't true to begin with. Your prebuild is gonna come with bloatware regardless if intel or AMD, because it's a prebuild.

 

In 2024? AMD is top dog as Intel struggles to keep up and is starting to play dirty, falling back to their tricks that made CPU's stagnate to begin with.

 

4 minutes ago, BallzDeep said:

how to service and use there features best for me

How is building and maintaining an Intel system different from AMD?

What are these mystical features that only Intel has that you can't live without because nobody else has them. Curious.