Build upgrade from 2015ish

[Jerombolo]

Hi all, 

 

I feel like I need to swap out a few, or most, of my currently running hardware. The PC is from about 2013 but I swapped out some parts here and there down the line.

Current configuration:

	CPU: Intel i7-4771 @ 3.5Ghz (4 Core, 8 Threads)
	CPU Cooler: Corsair AIO 2x120mm radiator (don't know the model)
	RAM: 2x 8 Gb Kingston HyperX Predator DDR3 @2133MHz
	Mainboard: Asus Sabertooth Z87
	Storage: 1x Samsung SSD 850 Pro 256Gb, 2x SSD 1TB (for games)
	GPU: RTX980Ti, Asus Strix Monitor: 24 inch 1080p G-Sync AOC 144Hz
	Case: Phanteks ENTHOO PRO PSU: 650Watt Corsair RM650 80+ Gold OS: Windows 10 Home Fans: several noctua and corsair 120mm fans

Budget (including currency): 1000 CHF

Country: Switzerland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Battlefield, RDR, GTA, Office applications

Other details:  no peripherals needed

                         planned purchase date is january 24

                         for now I'll keep the monitor as a bigger one doesn't fit my workspace and I'm happy with it

                         want to switch to an air cooler for the CPU

                         GPU has to stay Nvidia

Desired gaming performance: high-ultra graphics with 120fps +

 

I've been looking at the pre-built systems from my local computer shop and the one selling for CHF 1600 (now on sale for CHF 1400) runs:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X (8x 3.4-4.6Ghz)
GPU: nVidia Geforce RTX4060, 8GB ASUS DUAL

RAM: 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz Kingston Fury Beast RGB (4x8GB)
SSD: 1TB WD Blue M.2 NVMe
Mainboard: Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2
PSU: 750Watt be quiet! System Power B10 Bronze
CPU cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 schwarz
Soundcard: Realtek ALC887-VD2
OS: Windows 11 Home

 

The one selling for CHF 1700 (now on sale for CHF 1500) runs:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X (8x 3.4-4.6Ghz)
CPU cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 FX
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz Kingston Fury Beast RGB (2x8GB)
Mainboard: Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2
SSD: 1TB Samsung 980 M.2 MVMe
GPU: RTX4060Ti, 8GB ASUS OC DUAL nVidia Geforce
Soundcard: Realtek ALC887-VD2 7.1
PSU: 650Watt be quiet! System Power Bronze
OS: Windows 11 Home

 

These builds are from June 2023 so I guess some parts aren't the best choice by now or something better is coming out shorty? I'm very out to date in knowledge on computer hardware.

My idea was to keep the case, fans, PSU, SSDs and buy the parts they use for their builds. 

Let me know if you what you think of these two pre-built builds and which parts you would use from these or take an alternative.

 

Thank you for your help!

 

[Mumintroll]

You didn't find any good offers on builds with AMD Radeon graphic cards? Why must it be Nvidia?

I don't know if you can get high-ultra graphics with 120+ fps with a 4060 8gb. It depends what games you're gaming now, and in the future.

If you want to save money a 3060 with 12gb could offer similar performance as a 4060 8gb, if you can find one before they've phased out. Don't pick Gigabyte's 30xx series as they can snap and break....

 

16gb ram is minimum when gaming today, but some new modern games will use more. Hogwart's Legacy gulp down all ram I have.

[PDifolco]

24 minutes ago, Jerombolo said:

Hi all, 

 

I feel like I need to swap out a few, or most, of my currently running hardware. The PC is from about 2013 but I swapped out some parts here and there down the line.

Current configuration:

	CPU: Intel i7-4771 @ 3.5Ghz (4 Core, 8 Threads)
	CPU Cooler: Corsair AIO 2x120mm radiator (don't know the model)
	RAM: 2x 8 Gb Kingston HyperX Predator DDR3 @2133MHz
	Mainboard: Asus Sabertooth Z87
	Storage: 1x Samsung SSD 850 Pro 256Gb, 2x SSD 1TB (for games)
	GPU: RTX980Ti, Asus Strix Monitor: 24 inch 1080p G-Sync AOC 144Hz
	Case: Phanteks ENTHOO PRO PSU: 650Watt Corsair RM650 80+ Gold OS: Windows 10 Home Fans: several noctua and corsair 120mm fans

Budget (including currency): 1000 CHF

Country: Switzerland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Battlefield, RDR, GTA, Office applications

Other details:  no peripherals needed

                         planned purchase date is january 24

                         for now I'll keep the monitor as a bigger one doesn't fit my workspace and I'm happy with it

                         want to switch to an air cooler for the CPU

                         GPU has to stay Nvidia

Desired gaming performance: high-ultra graphics with 120fps +

 

I've been looking at the pre-built systems from my local computer shop and the one selling for CHF 1600 (now on sale for CHF 1400) runs:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X (8x 3.4-4.6Ghz)
GPU: nVidia Geforce RTX4060, 8GB ASUS DUAL

RAM: 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz Kingston Fury Beast RGB (4x8GB)
SSD: 1TB WD Blue M.2 NVMe
Mainboard: Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2
PSU: 750Watt be quiet! System Power B10 Bronze
CPU cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 schwarz
Soundcard: Realtek ALC887-VD2
OS: Windows 11 Home

 

The one selling for CHF 1700 (now on sale for CHF 1500) runs:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X (8x 3.4-4.6Ghz)
CPU cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 FX
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz Kingston Fury Beast RGB (2x8GB)
Mainboard: Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2
SSD: 1TB Samsung 980 M.2 MVMe
GPU: RTX4060Ti, 8GB ASUS OC DUAL nVidia Geforce
Soundcard: Realtek ALC887-VD2 7.1
PSU: 650Watt be quiet! System Power Bronze
OS: Windows 11 Home

 

These builds are from June 2023 so I guess some parts aren't the best choice by now or something better is coming out shorty? I'm very out to date in knowledge on computer hardware.

My idea was to keep the case, fans, PSU, SSDs and buy the parts they use for their builds. 

Let me know if you what you think of these two pre-built builds and which parts you would use from these or take an alternative.

 

Thank you for your help!

 

The prebuilts are not great, old gen CPU and bad value GPU, they should try to get rid of this bad stock  

I'd suggest you keep case, PSU and SSD, replace all the rest with this

If you can replace the PSU with a better and new model (RM850x 123EUR), do it as well

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€237.72 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€44.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€222.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  (€72.39 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€463.99 @ Computeruniverse) 
Total: €1041.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-01 14:22 CET+0100

 

[jaslion]

The prebuilts are using older cpu's and also the 4060 serirs just kinda sucks badly. 8fb of vram is NOT something you want in a new system if can be avoided.

 

 

Also a 4060 1080p high 120fps in all games is simply not possible for it.

 

Honestly I'd diy and either go new everything except gpu and get a better one later OR get a better gpu and psu now and do rest later

 

[Jerombolo]

4 hours ago, Mumintroll said:

You didn't find any good offers on builds with AMD Radeon graphic cards? Why must it be Nvidia?

I don't know if you can get high-ultra graphics with 120+ fps with a 4060 8gb. It depends what games you're gaming now, and in the future.

If you want to save money a 3060 with 12gb could offer similar performance as a 4060 8gb, if you can find one before they've phased out. Don't pick Gigabyte's 30xx series as they can snap and break....

 

16gb ram is minimum when gaming today, but some new modern games will use more. Hogwart's Legacy gulp down all ram I have.

I have a G-Sync monitor and would like to continue to use G-Sync as I'm quite happy with it. 3060s are still plenty available, I'll look into these.

[Jerombolo]

4 hours ago, jaslion said:

The prebuilts are using older cpu's and also the 4060 serirs just kinda sucks badly. 8fb of vram is NOT something you want in a new system if can be avoided.

 

 

Also a 4060 1080p high 120fps in all games is simply not possible for it.

 

Honestly I'd diy and either go new everything except gpu and get a better one later OR get a better gpu and psu now and do rest later

 

I've watched a few reviews about the 4060 and heared it's not very good, but I don't think that my 980TI is still sufficient nowadays?

[Jerombolo]

5 hours ago, PDifolco said:

The prebuilts are not great, old gen CPU and bad value GPU, they should try to get rid of this bad stock  

I'd suggest you keep case, PSU and SSD, replace all the rest with this

If you can replace the PSU with a better and new model (RM850x 123EUR), do it as well

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€237.72 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€44.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€222.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  (€72.39 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€463.99 @ Computeruniverse) 
Total: €1041.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-01 14:22 CET+0100

 

This looks like a good upgrade, what do you think of the pre built systems by PC Partpicker? I'm looking at the excellent gaming systems from AMD and Intel now.

[PDifolco]

5 hours ago, Jerombolo said:

This looks like a good upgrade, what do you think of the pre built systems by PC Partpicker? I'm looking at the excellent gaming systems from AMD and Intel now.

Yes you can use pcp lists

Sometimes they may have  "non optimal" parts as they're often selecting the cheapest tho

For example I won't get 4800CL40 RAM but at least 5600CL36,  and a MP34 SSD rather than MP33 

[Jerombolo]

I upped the budget and looked at some other parts, what do you think of:

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500

Cooler: Noctua NH-D12L 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler

MB: Asus TUF GAMING B760-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory

GPU: Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card

 

This would set me back CHF 1'100.- but that's okay. PSU should be sufficient altough I read I should get a bigger one.