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I bought a second hand pc from a guy and want to upgrade my CPU, motherboard and RAM.

 

Current Specs:

 

GPU: RTX 3070

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600

Mobo: ROG STRIX X470

Ram: 16gb Ddr4 2133

 

I am not sure if I should upgrade to the new B650 motherboard and get an AM5 CPU or the B550 with a 5600x CPU.

 

 

Any suggestions?

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I have the same Motherboard, if it doesn't have any problems keep it, there's nothing a B550 can do the the x470 cant do save that money and I would order a 5900x or a 5800x3D depending on your primary use for this machine, update to the latest bios before swapping the chips and order 32Gb of ram and enjoy

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16 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

5800X3D and 32GB 3200C16 RAM.

 

What's the brand and model of the PSU?

Corsair HX750i

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19 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

5800X3D and 32GB 3200C16 RAM.

^^^

Btw cause of the extra cache you dont need to worry too much about tuning the rams to get the most out of the chip as the cache should get you 95-98% of the way there

 

 

4 minutes ago, StealthyG said:

Corsair HX750i

And thats a perfectly good psu

 

Reccomended to replace after 10 years but you can opt to run it into the ground and youll probs be fine anyways

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5 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

^^^

Btw cause of the extra cache you dont need to worry too much about tuning the rams to get the most out of the chip as the cache should get you 95-98% of the way there

 

 

And thats a perfectly good psu

 

Reccomended to replace after 10 years but you can opt to run it into the ground and youll probs be fine anyways

I am looking at maybe getting 3600 ram, the X470's specs says it can handle 3600 (OC), but I read an article where the guy said "I recommend you to leave those settings and just boost your RAM's speed with one click by using the D.O.C.P. option under Ai Overclock Tuner sub-menu. This is the first option in the roll down menu and this will set your RAMs speed automatically on the safest way. Since the necessary overclocking information was burned into your RAM by the manufacturer and your RAM modules handles the whole tuning setting process you'll get the required 3600Mhz maximum speed and the optimal voltage settings as well."

 

I am really not an expert, so I also don't want to manually overclock anything.  Do you think the above-mentioned option is viable?

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1 hour ago, StealthyG said:

I am looking at maybe getting 3600 ram, the X470's specs says it can handle 3600 (OC), but I read an article where the guy said "I recommend you to leave those settings and just boost your RAM's speed with one click by using the D.O.C.P. option under Ai Overclock Tuner sub-menu. This is the first option in the roll down menu and this will set your RAMs speed automatically on the safest way. Since the necessary overclocking information was burned into your RAM by the manufacturer and your RAM modules handles the whole tuning setting process you'll get the required 3600Mhz maximum speed and the optimal voltage settings as well."

 

I am really not an expert, so I also don't want to manually overclock anything.  Do you think the above-mentioned option is viable?

Why would you get a 3600 when the 5600 is so much better and barely more than a hundred?

 

Edit:  I am sleepy, ignore the above comment.

 

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9 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Why would you get a 3600 when the 5600 is so much better and barely more than a hundred?

 

 

3600 RAM. Not CPU.

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5800X3D doesn't really care about the RAM frequency, 2133 should be fine.

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45 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

3600 RAM. Not CPU.

Ahh, damn.  Coffee didn't kick in et.  Good catch, and sorry!

 

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

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Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

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OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

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2 hours ago, StealthyG said:

I am really not an expert, so I also don't want to manually overclock anything.  Do you think the above-mentioned option is viable?

No it isnt

 

Auto overclocking atleast for rams is trash cause its not tailored for 1 specific ic, so youll probs get shit performance and not even max out your rams

 

You dont need to be an "expert" you just need to know how to do it (methodology) if youd like to make your own oc, though making your own oc is kinda pointless for slow <4000 speeds since theres tons of profiles out there that you can follow for your specific ic, it is pretty easy to do though as you dont have to worry much about heat, mobo limits, voltage scaling topping out, etc.

 

Simply post a thaiphoon burner screenshot and im sure ill be able to find a profile or 3 or atleast make a rough profile

 

 

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If a 16 year old can stabilize a somewhat respectable 2800 ddr3 oc on a cpu that is not known to do much more than 2000 ddr3 with next to no references

 

then you should atleast be able to key in a pre made profile by someone else

 

 

ill just summon @RONOTHAN## as he does have experience with ddr4 where i only have knowledge since my experience is limited to ddr3

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