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On 12/4/2023 at 5:30 PM, NorKris said:

ur not wrong, and its ok to fine tune fans and stuff...  but one problem at a time bud  😄 

Hey. Just got the cooler and some of the new fans. No more full speed fans here 🥳

Thanks alot for the help 🙏

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2 hours ago, NorKris said:

a  few basic things here:

 

New fans wont help you if u cant get the PWM controller to work 

 

its been 7 days since the first helpfull guy asked for a pic of how all this 🙂 ...

 

 

and for the advice, just go to bios,  set a fan curve to 20% -> restart the pc and go STRAIGHT back to bios and tell us if the fans did quiet down,  this way we can know if all this is a  software bug

 

 

or u can get the same fan controller im using 🙂 

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okay i will try

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if I go into bios and set all fans to 20%
then nothing happens, but if I set 4 of the fans to 10% and turn off the other 3, I can control the other 4 without any problems
but if i try to turn on one of the others i can't control any of them

 

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32 minutes ago, Dk-Rampage said:

if I go into bios and set all fans to 20%
then nothing happens, but if I set 4 of the fans 

what 4 fans?

what are they connected to?

33 minutes ago, Dk-Rampage said:

to 10% and turn off the other 3,

what other 3 fans? 

what are they connectoed to?

 

where are the pictures 

 

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On 11/23/2023 at 7:17 PM, Dk-Rampage said:

I have tried the 5 fan headers that are in the motherboard, and it is the same, but I have found several on the net where they have a problem with the same fans running at full speed and that they cannot start. and when they change fans, the new fans run normally

could it be that my Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM 140mm fans are not for PC and for server

Can it be that people should check manuals?

.61w x 3 = 1.83w. Mind showing me in your motherboard manual what headers you have those fans plugged into and what they’re rated for?

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I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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12 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

 

.61w x 3 = 1.83w. Mind showing me in your motherboard manual what headers you have those fans plugged into and what they’re rated for?

thats a good point, burring out headers is a real thing, but ofc that does not explain the full speed problem 

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Just now, NorKris said:

thats a good point, burring out headers is a real thing, but ofc that does not explain the full speed problem 

No, but it does explain this; the headers aren’t burnt out yet. They’re just not letting him draw too much power through them. 

1 hour ago, Dk-Rampage said:

if I go into bios and set all fans to 20%
then nothing happens, but if I set 4 of the fans to 10% and turn off the other 3, I can control the other 4 without any problems
but if i try to turn on one of the others i can't control any of them

 

@NorKris @thrasher_565 @RevGAM

 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

No, but it does explain this; the headers aren’t burnt out yet. They
’re just not letting him draw too much power through them. 

ok but original post: my fans are at full speed 😄

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2 hours ago, NorKris said:

what 4 fans?

what are they connected to?

what other 3 fans? 

what are they connectoed to?

 

where are the pictures 

 

#MoreQuestionsFromUsThanFromYou

they are connectoed to motherboard

1 in front, 1 in top, 1 in back

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1 hour ago, IkeaGnome said:

Can it be that people should check manuals?

.61w x 3 = 1.83w. Mind showing me in your motherboard manual what headers you have those fans plugged into and what they’re rated for?

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max 1A 12W on all fan headers

i use those fan headers

cha_fan 1  have 1 fan 1 back

cha_fan 2 have 2 fans 2 top

cha_fan 3 have 2 fans 1 front and 1 top

cha_fan 4 have 2 fans 2 front

 

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7 minutes ago, Dk-Rampage said:

max 1A 12W on all fan headers

i use those fan headers

cha_fan 1  have 1 fan 1 back

cha_fan 2 have 2 fans 2 top

cha_fan 3 have 2 fans 1 front and 1 top

cha_fan 4 have 2 fans 2 front

 

So all your headers are overloaded under a typical load. 3 of them are trying to draw 2.2 amps under a typical load….

 

1 hour ago, NorKris said:

ok but original post: my fans are at full speed 😄

no. The original post was just that they were loud and there is no control over them. 
They’re server fans. They’re going to be loud even when they’re running at a slower speed than max. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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1 hour ago, IkeaGnome said:

 

 

no. The original post was just that they were loud and there is no control over them. 
They’re server fans. They’re going to be loud even when they’re running at a slower speed than max. 

but u dont lose controll when the header cant deliver the correct Ampss

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6 minutes ago, NorKris said:

but u dont lose controll when the header cant deliver the correct Ampss

Gotcha. Trying to keep them from frying headers won't help anything. 

 

Best of luck.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

Gotcha. Trying to keep them from frying headers won't help anything. 

 

Best of luck.

nono, i 100% agree with u on that 😛 

 

its just the control over fans variable im struggling with

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1 hour ago, IkeaGnome said:

So all your headers are overloaded under a typical load. 3 of them are trying to draw 2.2 amps under a typical load….

 

no. The original post was just that they were loud and there is no control over them. 
They’re server fans. They’re going to be loud even when they’re running at a slower speed than max. 

will it help to change fans to  4x Phanteks D30 140mm and a Phanteks Glacier One 420D30 or Phanteks Glacier One 360D30?

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18 minutes ago, Dk-Rampage said:

will it help to change fans to  4x Phanteks D30 140mm and a Phanteks Glacier One 420D30 or Phanteks Glacier One 360D30?

yes, ur pc wil look so much better 🙂

 

but can you try to only have 1 fan per header connected and go into bios?

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The problem that @IkeaGnomenoticed that I forgot to check is that your overloading your headers. Even with a hub that's powered by the PSU, it is possible to do that. You need to make sure none of your headers are being pushed past 1A.

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On 11/25/2023 at 7:06 PM, NorKris said:

yes, ur pc wil look so much better 🙂

 

but can you try to only have 1 fan per header connected and go into bios?

i only have 5 headers and have 7 fans, which two should I not connect?

what will be best Phanteks Glacier One 420D30 in front or Phanteks Glacier One 360D30 in top?

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11 hours ago, Dk-Rampage said:

i only have 5 headers and have 7 fans, which two should I not connect?

 

for testing: 1 fan per header and tell us if anything changed

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9 hours ago, NorKris said:

for testing: 1 fan per header and tell us if anything changed

okay, i will try

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On 11/28/2023 at 9:39 AM, NorKris said:

for testing: 1 fan per header and tell us if anything changed

now I've tried having only one fan on each header, then I can control them, than until I open a program in windows, then they go at full speed. but if I close the program again, they stop again, i have try with microsoft word, steam, adobe photoshop, OBS studio

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On 11/25/2023 at 6:12 PM, IkeaGnome said:

Gotcha. Trying to keep them from frying headers won't help anything. 

 

Best of luck.

now I've tried having only one fan on each header, then I can control them, than until I open a program in windows, then they go at full speed. but if I close the program again, they stop again, i have try with microsoft word, steam, adobe photoshop, OBS studio

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1 hour ago, Dk-Rampage said:

now I've tried having only one fan on each header, then I can control them, than until I open a program in windows, then they go at full speed. but if I close the program again, they stop again, i have try with microsoft word, steam, adobe photoshop, OBS studio

nice that shows us that you did not overload the headers. 

 

so what programs makes the fans go crazy?  and how old is the windows install?

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22 hours ago, NorKris said:

nice that shows us that you did not overload the headers. 

 

so what programs makes the fans go crazy?  and how old is the windows install?

I started with windows 10, but about 3 months later I upgraded to windows 11

about 7 months. i have windows 11

could there be something wrong with the motherboard or fans?

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23 hours ago, NorKris said:

nice that shows us that you did not overload the headers. 

 

so what programs makes the fans go crazy?  and how old is the windows install?

what will be best Phanteks Glacier One 420 D30 in fornt or Phanteks Glacier One 360 D30 top
4x D30 140mm or 4X120mm

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On 11/26/2023 at 8:20 PM, RevGAM said:

The problem that @IkeaGnomenoticed that I forgot to check is that your overloading your headers. Even with a hub that's powered by the PSU, it is possible to do that. You need to make sure none of your headers are being pushed past 1A.

what will be best Phanteks Glacier One 420 D30 in fornt or Phanteks Glacier One 360 D30 top
4x D30 140mm or 4X120mm

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