need help choosing a mobo please

[dreamcast4599]

as some of you may or may not know. im building a pc for my friend since he cant afford one. im using some leftover parts i had lying around, as well as some parts i got for cheap, example a cheap 25$ 1050Ti. an early 2000's atx case i got for 10$. some ddr3 ram i had lying around since my gaming rig uses ddr4. anyhow i have everything i need for his build except the motherboard which i plan to buy used but since my budget for the motherboard is limited to 60$ or less i cant decide if i should go for something like a socket 1366,1155,1150 motherboard/cpu combo the most demanding games he will play is resident evil 2 remake and doom 2016 im so torn on what mobo socket to go for lga 2011 is outta my price range thanks for your time and i havent used intel motherboards since the old pentium 4 days so im not sure whats best thanks for your time

 

im leaning more towards lga 1150 or 1155 as they both have reasonably priced core i5 and i7 cpus and offer decent gaming performance

[Somerandomtechyboi]

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1366 is really power hungry and no avx but it might be next to worthless in some places and still offers decent performance with a 6 core westmere xeon or gulftown i7

 

1155 is just mid, yes it has avx but id look at 1150 instead since the cpus may be similarly priced and imo not much of a bump over x58

 

1150 is pretty decent if you can find a used 4670k/4770k or their refresh counterparts for cheap

 

And what ddr3 ram do you have laying around and do they happen to be matching and/or bare pcb? X58 is best with triple channel so if youve only got 2 sticks youll wanna buy another stick if you go x58

 

 

As for oc since thats basically mandatory for these old platforms and youll lose lots of performance without oc

 

I7 970/980 and probs the equivalent w3670 are likely to hit around 4.3-4.5ghz at 1.4v vcore with the 980x/990x or w3680/3690 being able to do 4.4-4.6ghz at 1.4v vcore, 5ghz ~1.55-1.6v vcore

 

4670k/4770k should be able to do around 4.6ghz at ~1.25v, 4.8ghz at ~1.32-1.35v, and 5ghz at ~1.42-1.45v atleast thats what ive found on the internet since i dont have haswell yet, delid is pretty easy and highly reccomended

 

Both of these will do 3000+ ddr3 with relative ease so if you have hynix ics or samsung 2gbit d die you can leverage their oc potential so basically free performance, dont have experience with either gulftown or haswell but closest thing is my i7 930 and ive hit 3100 on it with samsung gdies (imc limit) and 2800 stable with 2 double sided hynix cfr sticks 11-14-15 at 2.1v

 

 

if your country happens to have a decent used market for old workstations try finding a used x79 or x99 based workstation like the hp z420/440 series, prefer x99 over x79, and prefer e5 1650 and up if available over e5 26xx or any 16xx lower than the 1650 (locked quadcores), e5 1650 and up have unlocked multipliers and you can oc them to around 4ghz via throttlestop, with voltage controls if you pad mod the cpu or solder a trimpot onto the board youll be looking at similar ocs to non hedt haswell

 

 

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X and E xeons on x58 have garbage imc that are limited to 2200-2300 due to 10x max multi so prefer i7 and xeon w which will probs oc better anyways

 

Asus x58 boards are trash at ram oc due to forced 1.5:1 uncore memclk ratio (limited to 2600-3000 depending on how high uncore goes) but theyre unfortunately the best youll get unless you get a giga board thats better than the x58a ud3r

 

For general oc methodology use as much volt as you need or as much as you can cool down since you wont hit danger territory on normal cooling anyways, exception being vdimm as thats ic dependant (usually skys the limit so >2v is fine and this does not have anything to do with internal imc volt so no worries with imc degradation) and vtt (doesnt heat the cpu that much, prefer ~1.6v max for daily but you can push 1.7v if you have to and i myself definitely do run my chip up to these volts) or vccsa/io on haswell (apparently has sweetspots so you cant cram as much volt as you want, max should be around the same as vcore at ~1.45v on haswell)

[dreamcast4599]

@Somerandomtechyboi i have about 12+ sticks of ddr3 10600 and 10 sticks of ddr3 1333 so ram isnt an issue im leaning towards either 1150 or 1155 depending on whats cheaper in terms of used mobos? due in part to my limited budget

[Somerandomtechyboi]

3 minutes ago, dreamcast4599 said:

@Somerandomtechyboi i have about 12+ sticks of ddr3 10600 and 10 sticks of ddr3 1333 so ram isnt an issue im leaning towards either 1150 or 1155 depending on whats cheaper in terms of used mobos? due in part to my limited budget

What country and what platform will you be using to look for these used parts?

 

Definitely 1150

1155 feels more like a sidegrade or outright downgrade from x58

 

Look for used z87/97, some lower end ones may go for cheap, cant really give specific reccomendations either since its up to the used market and ill have to check for myself

[dreamcast4599]

@Somerandomtechyboi usa arizona and prolly ebay as that seems to be the cheapest my budget for a mobo is 50$ us or less the cheaper the better for cpu budget is 30 or less keep in mind my friends last computer was a core 2 duo laptop that died on him so this will be his first desktop only reason i mentioned lga 1366 is because i one had an hp z400 prebuilt with an x5675 in it so im a tad familiar with X58 aka 1366

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, dreamcast4599 said:

@Somerandomtechyboi usa arizona and prolly ebay as that seems to be the cheapest my budget for a mobo is 50$ us or less the cheaper the better for cpu budget is 30 or less keep in mind my friends last computer was a core 2 duo laptop that died on him so this will be his first desktop only reason i mentioned lga 1366 is because i one had an hp z400 prebuilt with an x5675 in it so im a tad familiar with X58 aka 1366

1366 in a prebuilt yea not ideal, id rather the z420/440 over a z400 since x58 benifits quite abit from tuning that isnt a simple cpu core multi adjustment like bclk (200-230), pcie (115-120), uncore (3800+), etc. Whilst a platform like x99 maybe abit of ram tuning but its already got quad channel and theres not much else to tune aside from cpu strap maybe

 

a 1366 prebuilt with an unlocked cpu is better than nothing but prefer x79/99 prebuilt or a 1366/1150 that doesnt use a crappy locked down oem board, although the z400 seems to have a standard atx mobo without proprietary garbage power connectors so you can swap in a better board

[dreamcast4599]

@Somerandomtechyboi well back in 2016 the z400 was all i could afford at the time so what do you recommend for under 60$ us lga 1150 or lga 1155 and why

[Somerandomtechyboi]

8 hours ago, dreamcast4599 said:

@Somerandomtechyboi well back in 2016 the z400 was all i could afford at the time so what do you recommend for under 60$ us lga 1150 or lga 1155 and why

Again idk your local market nor country but if were looking at prebuilts id ditch both of those for x79/99 in the form of workstations like the z420/440 cause oem 1155 and 1150 boards are dogshit

 

Id consider 1150 if there are cheap z87/97

 

1155 only if there is no x58, 1150, nor x79/99 prebuilts, so essentially a last resort. should be basically valueless now in most regions so maybe you can find a 2600k or 3770k for cheap and oc to 4.8-5ghz, though sandy imc is trash and maxes out at 2133 multi so getting faster speeds means raising bclk which is fine as long as its stable but you cant raise bclk that much most of the time

[dreamcast4599]

@Somerandomtechyboi im in the usa arizona if it helps x79/x99 even in prebuilts here in the us is expensive im looking to stay under 60$ us for a motherboard hence why im looking at either 1150 or 1155 since those boards can be had cheap also what do you think is this a good mobo for the price?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/235125555763?hash=item36be934233%3Ag%3ArakAAOSwpmJlP2EV&fbclid=IwAR0cu-WzgO3Cj3dhC5p0qtxOIvZseX4gyjy7cS3ztH7FZPS9NxgXM6zH2F0

[Somerandomtechyboi]

12 minutes ago, dreamcast4599 said:

@Somerandomtechyboi im in the usa arizona if it helps x79/x99 even in prebuilts here in the us is expensive im looking to stay under 60$ us for a motherboard hence why im looking at either 1150 or 1155 since those boards can be had cheap also what do you think is this a good mobo for the price?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/235125555763?hash=item36be934233%3Ag%3ArakAAOSwpmJlP2EV&fbclid=IwAR0cu-WzgO3Cj3dhC5p0qtxOIvZseX4gyjy7cS3ztH7FZPS9NxgXM6zH2F0

That is a horrible price for such an ancient board, even in indo i can get those for around 20$ and 12$ ish for h61 boards

 

Look on fb marketplace aas ebay tends to have meh pricing