Slow GPU but fast CPU vs balanced CPU-GPU combo

[JonJonz]

Hi, I’m planning to sell my old GT 1030 (I know ) and to test if it’s still working, I paired it with a Ryzen 5 5600 CPU with updated drivers and getting about 40fps on Dota 2. I know it’s a bottleneck and the performance, as expected, is not okay. I browsed some YouTube benchmarks of GT 1030 paired with a more balanced CPU and they're getting more than 60fps or better than my current test combo. This means that the GPU is bottlenecking my CPU, right? If the GT 1030 is paired with a lower CPU, it would perform better, right? I’m just wondering.

[PDifolco]

4 minutes ago, JonJonz said:

Hi, I’m planning to sell my old GT 1030 (I know ) and to test if it’s still working, I paired it with a Ryzen 5 5600 CPU with updated drivers and getting about 40fps on Dota 2. I know it’s a bottleneck and the performance, as expected, is not okay. I browsed some YouTube benchmarks of GT 1030 paired with a more balanced CPU and they're getting more than 60fps or better than my current test combo. This means that the GPU is bottlenecking my CPU, right? If the GT 1030 is paired with a lower CPU, it would perform better, right? I’m just wondering.

Yes the GPU is just so crappy it caps at 30FPS, so there's no way to get any more performance

With a lower enough CPU that will be even worse than the GPU (hard to find, maybe some Core Duo lol) you may end up CPU bottlenecked and then have even less FPS, but never more

Or maybe try FSR

 

[YoungBlade]

I would guess that the reason you aren't seeing the same performance is that you aren't testing with the same settings or with the same version of DotA 2. A slower CPU will not make a slow GPU any faster - it can only make it slower.

 

Also, very important, what specific model of GT 1030 is this? If it's the DDR4 version, then seeing results 30-50% slower than the GDDR5 version is totally normal and expected.

[venomtail]

This conclusion from testing is off by so many stratosphere it borderline seems like a bait fake troll post. I'll give this the benefit of the doubt.

 

You only have one thing to do here and it's to get rid of the 1030. If you sell you modern CPU for some ancient one to match the ancient GPU, you'll still get 40fps in Dota 2. Get something like a used 5700XT or 1080TI for $100~ and you'll be seeing some 200fps in Dota 2.

[JonJonz]

1 minute ago, venomtail said:

This conclusion from testing is off by so many stratosphere it borderline seems like a bait fake troll post. I'll give this the benefit of the doubt.

 

You only have one thing to do here and it's to get rid of the 1030. If you sell you modern CPU for some ancient one to match the ancient GPU, you'll still get 40fps in Dota 2. Get something like a used 5700XT or 1080TI for $100~ and you'll be seeing some 200fps in Dota 2.

Yeah, i feel like a scumbag selling a gt 1030

[JonJonz]

10 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

I would guess that the reason you aren't seeing the same performance is that you aren't testing with the same settings or with the same version of DotA 2. A slower CPU will not make a slow GPU any faster - it can only make it slower.

 

Also, very important, what specific model of GT 1030 is this? If it's the DDR4 version, then seeing results 30-50% slower than the GDDR5 version is totally normal and expected.

I don't know which version of gt 1030 they used by I remember having a better performance on my old cpu which i couldn't even remember, i just feel guilty sellng a pos card it would much better if I just smelt it, cast the aluminum, make some necklace and sell it, thanks for your answer!

[Tetras]

1 minute ago, JonJonz said:

Yeah, i feel like a scumbag selling a gt 1030

They're still useful if you need a decent display output and you have no integrated graphics (practically every AM4 CPU) and for playing through a library of old Steam games the GDDR5 version is actually decent, it can play GTA V and Skyrim, for example.

[JonJonz]

Just now, Tetras said:

They're still useful if you need a decent display output and you have no integrated graphics (practically every AM4 CPU) and for playing through a library of old Steam games the GDDR5 version is actually decent, it can play GTA V and Skyrim, for example.

Yeah, it could still play dota 2 okay, no stutters with the right settings,idk but I think it's the stigma of not getting 60 fps that got me

[cmndr]

On 10/20/2023 at 7:35 AM, JonJonz said:

Hi, I’m planning to sell my old GT 1030 (I know ) and to test if it’s still working, I paired it with a Ryzen 5 5600 CPU with updated drivers and getting about 40fps on Dota 2. I know it’s a bottleneck and the performance, as expected, is not okay. I browsed some YouTube benchmarks of GT 1030 paired with a more balanced CPU and they're getting more than 60fps or better than my current test combo. This means that the GPU is bottlenecking my CPU, right? If the GT 1030 is paired with a lower CPU, it would perform better, right? I’m just wondering.

Bottleneck as a term has been misused so badly that people understand the engineering fundamentals less and less. 

In most scenarios, making any one part faster won't slow down the system as a whole BUT the benefit might not be appreciable, since you're not fixing the slow part.

One complication - when you swap CPU/board/RAM you're changing a bunch of parts. Even certain CPU swaps can have that going on (the CPU itself is made of multiple things) so while it might be faster overall, there might be occasional performance regressions. 


Some things to consider - try reinstalling windows (matters less than it used to)
Try lowering select graphics settings. 

For perspective, a FAST GPU will be like 10-20x faster than your current, 5 year old, low end GPU