Platform Upgrade for my new Radeon 6800

[Adept_Austin]

Budget (including currency): <$500USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Baldur's Gate 3, It Takes 2, Split Screen Games in General as well as catching up on From Software's Library
Resolutions/Refresh Targets: 1080p/60-120fps (singleplayer) 4k/30-60fps (steam link to game room for splitscreen/singleplayer on a 4k TV)

Details: I recently purchased a new graphics card (MSI Gaming Z Trio 6800) and I've been enjoying the new life it's given my PC (coming from an EVGA 1060 6GB) but I know I need to upgrade my CPU. The thing is, I'm not sure where to go with it. I'm thinking about going with the AM5  since I'm rather envious of the position my cousin is in (He's got a Ryzen 5 1600 and plenty of upgrade path) but I'm not sure if the performance/upgrade advantage is worth the price right now compared to an AM4 or LGA1700(12th gen) platform. I don't really believe in future proofing, but I would like a nice upgrade path. My main goal right now is to be able to play BG3 split screen without worrying about it crashing as has been happening which I'm sure is due to the CPU.

 

**A CPU that comes with a cooler isn't necessarily required, but it's a plus as I have a tower cooler from Cooler Master, but It was given to me so I don't know the model or if it can be adapted to either of these platforms**

 

Existing Build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVNDqR

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 Guard-Pro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill Ares 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR3-2400 CL11 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: MSI GAMING Z TRIO Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: MSI Optix G242P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00)
Keyboard: Keychron K4 V2 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Corsair SCIMITAR RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00)
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600  Headphones  (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $0.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 12:14 EDT-0400

AM5 Idea:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KL2bKX

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power SP032GXLWU600FDEAE 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory  ($76.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: MSI GAMING Z TRIO Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: MSI Optix G242P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00)
Keyboard: Keychron K4 V2 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Corsair SCIMITAR RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00)
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600  Headphones  (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $420.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 12:19 EDT-0400

 

LGA1700 Idea:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Bk789

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($29.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: MSI GAMING Z TRIO Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: MSI Optix G242P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00)
Keyboard: Keychron K4 V2 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Corsair SCIMITAR RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00)
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600  Headphones  (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $274.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 12:47 EDT-0400

 

 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Adept_Austin
Posted the wrong info for the LGA1700 Idea

[Dedayog]

7600 build.

 

Ryzen 7600 is a great 6 core chip, in line with how the 5600 was for AM4.  

 

I personally won't use 400 level Intel chips.  600 or higher.  Intel's entry level stuff is TOO entry level, IMO.

[Adept_Austin]

Found a site selling the 7500f. Anyone have any advice on this? this would close the gap and make going AM5 a no brainer imo.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Adept_Austin said:

Found a site selling the 7500f. Anyone have any advice on this? this would close the gap and make going AM5 a no brainer imo.

That'd be a great choice if you don't need the iGPU

try this build

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  ($93.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING Z TRIO Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G242P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Keyboard: Keychron K4 V2 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Mouse: Corsair SCIMITAR RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600  Headphones  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Custom: R5 7500f ($180.00)
Total: $493.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 13:35 EDT-0400

 

Then again if you choose to go 12th gen try this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M AORUS ELITE AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING Z TRIO Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G242P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Keyboard: Keychron K4 V2 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Mouse: Corsair SCIMITAR RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600  Headphones  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $383.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 13:37 EDT-0400

[Dedayog]

27 minutes ago, filpo said:

That'd be a great choice if you don't need the iGPU

try this build

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  ($93.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING Z TRIO Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G242P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Keyboard: Keychron K4 V2 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Mouse: Corsair SCIMITAR RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600  Headphones  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Custom: R5 7500f ($180.00)
Total: $493.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 13:35 EDT-0400

 

Then again if you choose to go 12th gen try this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M AORUS ELITE AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING Z TRIO Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: MSI Optix G242P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Keyboard: Keychron K4 V2 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Mouse: Corsair SCIMITAR RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600  Headphones  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $383.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 13:37 EDT-0400

You can't cheapen the CPU and up the mobo

 

He wants the 7500 to make a cheaper build.

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

You can't cheapen the CPU and up the mobo

 

He wants the 7500 to make a cheaper build.

Nvm then. Didn’t read that @Adept_Austin just stick with your original b650m hdv m.2 mobo choice

[Adept_Austin]

1 hour ago, filpo said:

Nvm then. Didn’t read that @Adept_Austin just stick with your original b650m hdv m.2 mobo choice

Okay, from y'all's advice I've this as the absolute cheapest entry to AM5 that I'd be happy with, but my biggest question is with the RAM how much slower would a 16GB 5600 CL46 kit be compared to say, the 16GB 5600 CL28 kit that was recommended? Also, is there any difference between 6000 CL30 vs 5600 CL28?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Elite 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory  ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: MSI GAMING Z TRIO Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: MSI Optix G242P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00)
Keyboard: Keychron K4 V2 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Corsair SCIMITAR RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00)
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600  Headphones  (Purchased For $0.00)
Custom: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F ($181.83)
Total: $377.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 15:48 EDT-0400

[Adept_Austin]

I found a nifty calculator online

This shows that 5600 CL28 and 6000 CL30 are equivalent and both are 1.64x faster than the 5600 CL46 kit. Which means that the more expensive kits would be a better bang for buck according to my calculations. What I don't know is how this speed difference affects gaming performance. Can anyone help me out with that?

Edit: After further research, getting anything faster than a 10ns latency results in a substantial price jump, so I'm thinking of going with this kit for both performance and style

Edited October 4, 2023 by Adept_Austin
Further research done that didn't warrant an additional post

[filpo]

11 hours ago, Adept_Austin said:

how much slower would a 16GB 5600 CL46 kit be compared to say, the 16GB 5600 CL28 kit that was recommended?

you'd probs lose about 10 fps

 

11 hours ago, Adept_Austin said:

Also, is there any difference between 6000 CL30 vs 5600 CL28?

in terms of performance no, there isn't

 

11 hours ago, Adept_Austin said:

so I'm thinking of going with this kit for both performance and style

good choice. I would've gone with that one myself

 

11 hours ago, Adept_Austin said:

Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Elite 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory  ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: MSI GAMING Z TRIO Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: MSI Optix G242P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00)
Keyboard: Keychron K4 V2 RGB Bluetooth/Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Corsair SCIMITAR RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00)
Headphones: Sennheiser HD600  Headphones  (Purchased For $0.00)
Custom: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F ($181.83)

all I'd do is swap out the ram for the 5600 cl28 kit and then you're off. Looks good to me