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11 hours ago, Rainbrew said:

I've spent quite some time on there but sadly it seems like unless you go OLED it's just a massive gamble in most cases. Reading about mini LED monitors is sad cuz most of the more affordable ones seem to be plagued with issues.

It's not that it's a massive issue it's just that the larger screen size, brightness, and inconsistency of the bleed make it much more noticeable especially when compared to my crappy old monitor. It really takes away from all the other improvements I can see. OLED is simply too expensive at this point in time and I'm not a fan of the burn in risk as I enjoy using my tech for as long as possible until it's virtually obsolete. I plan on setting up some bias lighting for my monitor regardless to minimize the visibility of the glow at night.

 

As a side note does anyone know anything about the Phillips Momentum monitors? One specifically (Philips27M1F5500P/00 NanoIPS 240Hz) seems to use the same panel as the alienware I returned but there are pretty much no reviews of it online. The user reviews claim that the monitor has no backlight bleed to speak of and the IPS glow is very even but that could just be a case of winning the panel lottery.

I think I'll gamble with the Alienware again and hope I don't run into the same issues. Worst case scenario I'll just return it and buy something budget and then at least I'll save a few bucks and I won't have as high expectations.

 

Thanks for the responses everyone, really appreciate it. 🙂

I've been going through the ringer with monitors recently. I decided to move on from my old 75hz 1080p 24 inch Acer IPS monitor that I got several years ago to properly utilize my 4080.

 

My first choice was a 27 inch Odyssey G7 which had several issues including random black screens which required the monitor to be unplugged from the outlet to be able to restart, weird flickering, pronounced vignetting and a few other problems. I figured that it's fine, these monitors are notorious for bad QC online and I just got a bad panel so I returned it and to avoid similar issues I decided to move to a flat IPS.

 

I picked up an AW2723DF which has been praised as the best mid range 1440p monitor by many people and I knew more or less what to expect based on reviews. The corner glow from the backlight was a bit obnoxious but after as I was using it I think the panel was decompressing from shipping and the glow was receding. Then spontaneously the DSC function of the monitor started to glitch out and I had to return it as even when calling Dell they had no clue what to do.

 

As I'm now back to my ol' reliable Acer I can't help but wonder if I just got unlucky with the panel lottery with the other two monitors or if my expectations are too high. The IPS glow on this monitor is very uniform and barely noticeable and I can't say I've ever run into any bugs or issues with the firmware or any other functions of the panel (tbf there aren't many). Do smaller panels suffer from less uniformity issues or is this just a case of winning the panel lottery years ago without knowing it?

 

Where do I go from here? Get another 2723df and hope it doesn't have the same artifacting as the previous one? Abandon the higher end non OLED monitors, go for an LG 27Gp850p and hope I don't get terrible backlight bleed? I'm trying to stay in the sub 500/550USD price range but monitor prices being all over the place in Europe doesn't help.

 

I was hoping to just enjoy my new PC after saving up for so long but after all the troubleshooting and returns I've done recently I'm kind of bummed out and just want something 1440p that won't be messed up after a week. Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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12 minutes ago, Rainbrew said:

Where do I go from here? Get another 2723df and hope it doesn't have the same artifacting as the previous one? Abandon the higher end non OLED monitors, go for an LG 27Gp850p and hope I don't get terrible backlight bleed? I'm trying to stay in the sub 500/550USD price range but monitor prices being all over the place in Europe doesn't help.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/picture-quality/black-uniformity

Sure, you won't get the exact same unit as rtings tested, there can be variance (sometimes a lot) between each unit... but at least you have a starting point to pick from.

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If light bleeding is an issue, IPS glow is common and it is based on luck, either. to over come this two issue, you should save more budget and get OLED monitor, only OLED no light bleeding issue and normally very uniformity screen, unless you are very unlucky get the one with bad uniformity, but this is unlikely to happen.

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9 hours ago, Biohazard777 said:

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/picture-quality/black-uniformity

Sure, you won't get the exact same unit as rtings tested, there can be variance (sometimes a lot) between each unit... but at least you have a starting point to pick from.

I've spent quite some time on there but sadly it seems like unless you go OLED it's just a massive gamble in most cases. Reading about mini LED monitors is sad cuz most of the more affordable ones seem to be plagued with issues.

4 hours ago, Andrewtst said:

If light bleeding is an issue, IPS glow is common and it is based on luck, either. to over come this two issue, you should save more budget and get OLED monitor, only OLED no light bleeding issue and normally very uniformity screen, unless you are very unlucky get the one with bad uniformity, but this is unlikely to happen.

It's not that it's a massive issue it's just that the larger screen size, brightness, and inconsistency of the bleed make it much more noticeable especially when compared to my crappy old monitor. It really takes away from all the other improvements I can see. OLED is simply too expensive at this point in time and I'm not a fan of the burn in risk as I enjoy using my tech for as long as possible until it's virtually obsolete. I plan on setting up some bias lighting for my monitor regardless to minimize the visibility of the glow at night.

 

As a side note does anyone know anything about the Phillips Momentum monitors? One specifically (Philips27M1F5500P/00 NanoIPS 240Hz) seems to use the same panel as the alienware I returned but there are pretty much no reviews of it online. The user reviews claim that the monitor has no backlight bleed to speak of and the IPS glow is very even but that could just be a case of winning the panel lottery.

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11 hours ago, Rainbrew said:

I've spent quite some time on there but sadly it seems like unless you go OLED it's just a massive gamble in most cases. Reading about mini LED monitors is sad cuz most of the more affordable ones seem to be plagued with issues.

It's not that it's a massive issue it's just that the larger screen size, brightness, and inconsistency of the bleed make it much more noticeable especially when compared to my crappy old monitor. It really takes away from all the other improvements I can see. OLED is simply too expensive at this point in time and I'm not a fan of the burn in risk as I enjoy using my tech for as long as possible until it's virtually obsolete. I plan on setting up some bias lighting for my monitor regardless to minimize the visibility of the glow at night.

 

As a side note does anyone know anything about the Phillips Momentum monitors? One specifically (Philips27M1F5500P/00 NanoIPS 240Hz) seems to use the same panel as the alienware I returned but there are pretty much no reviews of it online. The user reviews claim that the monitor has no backlight bleed to speak of and the IPS glow is very even but that could just be a case of winning the panel lottery.

I think I'll gamble with the Alienware again and hope I don't run into the same issues. Worst case scenario I'll just return it and buy something budget and then at least I'll save a few bucks and I won't have as high expectations.

 

Thanks for the responses everyone, really appreciate it. 🙂

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Not bad to go something mid range and safe so to speak. I plan to eventually go OLED though. That 4K 240Hz Asus monitor looks great, but oh wow does it lack features. Seems wait continues.

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