PC Overhaul is fucked beyond belief

[Bean Cooling]

I replaced my old Asus Z10PE-D8 WS board with 2 Xeon e5-2690 v3's, 4x8GB DDR4 2133 CL15 ECC udimms, and vega 64 Graphics card. With an Asus Pro WS X570 Ace, Ryzen 9 5900x, 2x16gb DDR4 4000MHz non-ecc udimms, and a 6950XT. I've had an unbelievable amount of problems, If anyone can help me, I greatly appreciate it.

 

Day 1: Mostly spending time putting things together, my PC ends up only being able to get to the pre-bios screen (where it says "press DEL or F2 to enter the bios") I can't enter it, but I can press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart, I used a friend's spare 3600XT and load a new bios onto a flash drive, this fixes it.
I try loading into windows, frequent Random Hard Reboots and BSODs (with visual artifacts) "WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR". I take it to be a GPU Driver issue.

 

Day 2: I spend several hours trying to install new GPU drivers, almost all with the result of my PC encountering the same problems as the day before, before the installation could complete.

At some point my SSD's detection by windows and my motherboard's bios becomes intermittent, and only on certain boots (hot or cold didn't make that much of a difference, it seemed more random)

I figure it's an issue with my windows version because of how much newer my hardware has become with only a single upgrade. So I decide to back up my data and format my SSD (I would have done an in-place, but my system was too unstable for that). I couldn't install windows, I would get mountains of errors, I was so desperate I contacted microsoft support, who did a good job helping me. (The fix was downloading chipset/sata drivers onto another flash drive and having it plugged in during the setup, if you're interested). The system would crash during CDM or any significant driver updates. I Figured that the SSD was toast. (even though it was working just fine 2 days ago)

 

Day 3 (today as of writing this):  I went to micro center to get a new SSD,                       I tried installing windows via boot media, seemed more stable from the start. (I got my hopes up).

Granted the machine with the new windows install IS more stable, I was able to install windows updates, gpu drivers, and chipset drivers fairly easily. No more BSOD's, and random reboots can occur up to 30 minutes after booting instead of 0.5-5 minutes (I even made this post on the machine, even if it did shut off a few times while I was doing it). Trying any other actions regarding updating gpu or chipset drivers, windows update, or large file transfers will cause a hard reboot.

In-place upgrade windows doesn't work, and all audio (whether from the GPU through my monitor speakers, or my logitech G435 USB headset) sounds like someone is holding down the pause button (you know how you can hold space on a youtube video and it rapidly pauses and unpauses. All sound sounds like it's been ran through a filter to produce that effect, it is unusable). 

I'll probably run Memtest86 tomorrow just to rule out RAM.

I'll also contact Asus to see if my board is still under warranty, I got it in late 2020, but it's been sitting on a shelf until I started my upgrade.

Additional Info: I'm pretty sure it's not a GPU issue, the artifacting has gone away with the driver updates.

NOTE: I can't reply too much as I'll be going to bed within an hour, but I'll try to. I'll be back tomorrow and the day after.

[OU812]

If you have the ram running at 4000, might try backing it down.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

53 minutes ago, Bean Cooling said:

With an Asus Pro WS X570 Ace, Ryzen 9 5900x, 2x16gb DDR4 4000MHz non-ecc udimms, and a 6950XT

Odd hardware choice considering ryzen 7000 exists and fast rams are overclockers only no point in buying any bin other than 3200c16 and 3600c18

 

Id ditch both mobo and ram as those are what usually cause all the issues, besides pretty dumb ram buy so might aswell swap out with a cheap 3600c18 kit and save some money and hassle

 

If you can still rma everything id swap to ryzen 7000 but if you wanna stick with 5000 then thats fine albiet no upgrade path

[Bean Cooling]

8 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Odd hardware choice considering ryzen 7000 exists and fast rams are overclockers only no point in buying any bin other than 3200c16 and 3600c18

 

Id ditch both mobo and ram as those are what usually cause all the issues, besides pretty dumb ram buy so might aswell swap out with a cheap 3600c18 kit and save some money and hassle

 

If you can still rma everything id swap to ryzen 7000 but if you wanna stick with 5000 then thats fine albiet no upgrade path

I got my motherboard over 2.5 years ago, and forgot about it. When I remembered that I had it, (2 weeks ago) I ordered a 5900x, got it brand new for ~$290.

[Bean Cooling]

8 hours ago, OU812 said:

If you have the ram running at 4000, might try backing it down.

Good idea. I'll try that.

EDIT: I tested my machine with DOCP off, FCLK at auto and ram at 2666MHz. Then I tested my stock settings, and again with DOCP on but fclk on auto. (currently running now). Much more stable and my audio issue is gone. I'm still not sure if it's 100% stable, but I'll submit more updates if necessary.

I'm Embarrassed to have not thought of this earlier, I thought all ryzen 5000 Vermeer CPUs had no problem getting their FCLK to 2000MHz.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, Bean Cooling said:

Good idea. I'll try that.

EDIT: I tested my machine with DOCP off, FCLK at auto and ram at 2666MHz. Then I tested my stock settings, and again with DOCP on but fclk on auto. (currently running now). Much more stable and my audio issue is gone. I'm still not sure if it's 100% stable, but I'll submit more updates if necessary.

I'm Embarrassed to have not thought of this earlier, I thought all ryzen 5000 Vermeer CPUs had no problem getting their FCLK to 2000MHz.

Vermeer imc is pretty meh so itll only do around 3800 reliably for most cpus, some can do 4000 but kinda rare, desync fclk exists but wont be very benificial till you are well into pain territory for ddr4 oc (>4600)

 

Keep vsoc around 1.1-1.15v as it sweetspots for vermeer, no real benifit of going higher unless your config happens to need higher vsoc than that. Cezzane on the other hand scales on and on hence why 5000+ ddr4 1:1 is possible on cezzane

[Bean Cooling]

55 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Vermeer imc is pretty meh so itll only do around 3800 reliably for most cpus, some can do 4000 but kinda rare, desync fclk exists but wont be very benificial till you are well into pain territory for ddr4 oc (>4600)

 

Keep vsoc around 1.1-1.15v as it sweetspots for vermeer, no real benifit of going higher unless your config happens to need higher vsoc than that. Cezzane on the other hand scales on and on hence why 5000+ ddr4 1:1 is possible on cezzane

I'll probably clock the ram back to 3800 (and fclk 1900), but leave everything else on auto or what was specified in the DOCP profile. If I decide to do that. Either way thanks man, so far it seems stable, over 2 hours of uptime, I'll leave my system on for a few more hours, and if there are no more random reboots, I will consider the problem fixed. 

[Mark Kaine]

3 hours ago, Bean Cooling said:

Good idea. I'll try that.

EDIT: I tested my machine with DOCP off, FCLK at auto and ram at 2666MHz. Then I tested my stock settings, and again with DOCP on but fclk on auto. (currently running now). Much more stable and my audio issue is gone. I'm still not sure if it's 100% stable, but I'll submit more updates if necessary.

I'm Embarrassed to have not thought of this earlier, I thought all ryzen 5000 Vermeer CPUs had no problem getting their FCLK to 2000MHz.

nope.... not at all....... and 3600 is the sweetspot that not even all configurations can do.

 

 

guess that was your whole issue tbh.

[OU812]

14 hours ago, Bean Cooling said:

Good idea. I'll try that.

EDIT: I tested my machine with DOCP off, FCLK at auto and ram at 2666MHz. Then I tested my stock settings, and again with DOCP on but fclk on auto. (currently running now). Much more stable and my audio issue is gone. I'm still not sure if it's 100% stable, but I'll submit more updates if necessary.

I'm Embarrassed to have not thought of this earlier, I thought all ryzen 5000 Vermeer CPUs had no problem getting their FCLK to 2000MHz.

Nothing to be embarassed about. Mine will only get to 1866 fclk.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

15 hours ago, Bean Cooling said:

I'll probably clock the ram back to 3800 (and fclk 1900), but leave everything else on auto or what was specified in the DOCP profile. If I decide to do that. Either way thanks man, so far it seems stable, over 2 hours of uptime, I'll leave my system on for a few more hours, and if there are no more random reboots, I will consider the problem fixed. 

Btw dual ccd chips like that 5900x tend to do lower fclk than single ccd chips like the 5700x so you may find that youll only top out anywhere from 3866 to a pathetic 3733 ddr4 (the latter of which id rather just run desync fclk and the rams at 4600 because of how slow 3733 is)

 

13 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

nope.... not at all....... and 3600 is the sweetspot that not even all configurations can do.

And the sweetspot is the max 1:1 fclk your cpu can hit its not a static 3600, some can hit 4000, most might only hit a mere 3866, some piles of trash will only hit 3733

 

 

Btw if you need any extrahelp with tuning simply send a thaiphoon burner screenshot and ill come up with something