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[SomeDumDum]

Hello, I've been saving up FOREVER(3,000$ USD). My old/current Pc isn't running how I'd like it to be. The main reason I beleive is my new monitor. I was recently gifted a new(old) 2k monitor 2560-1440p w/ 144hz. And my Pc is having some trouble running games (BF-5 & Metro Exodus(Highest settings)). So I was thinking of upgrading again I have about a 3 grand budget. My current build and dream build are in my bio if the link doesn't work here.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Monkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/saved/#view=7wTGP6 If you have any suggestions or comment I'm 100% open.

[dizmo]

I wouldn't spend  your entire savings on a PC, that's an absolutely horrible use of the money.

If you're budget constricted, buy used parts from eBay. You can get a computer just as good as your $3,000 budget for well under $1,000 with some waiting and sniping auctions. The build you have linked is a mismash of ancient parts and things I wouldn't bother buying at any price.

 

Welcome to the forum.

[Hinjima]

5 minutes ago, SomeDumDum said:

Hello, I've been saving up FOREVER(3,000$ USD). My old/current Pc isn't running how I'd like it to be. The main reason I beleive is my new monitor. I was recently gifted a new(old) 2k monitor 2560-1440p w/ 144hz. And my Pc is having some trouble running games (BF-5 & Metro Exodus(Highest settings)). So I was thinking of upgrading again I have about a 3 grand budget. My current build and dream build are in my bio if the link doesn't work here.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Monkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/saved/#view=7wTGP6 If you have any suggestions or comment I'm 100% open.

are you only using your PC for gaming?

[youwannaslap]

like others will ask, what's the expected work case for this machine? is it just for gaming or also work? looking at your dream build, the CPU seems overkill if its just for gaming, plus you've paired an unlocked 24 core CPU with a mid range b760 motherboard.

edit: I made a new list using some of the same parts from your dream build with a few tweaks that I personally think are more befitting to your budget. faster gpu, more appropriate cpu and motherboard combo, and replaced the sata ssds with pci 4.0 drives that are faster AND cheaper. threw in a couple extra fans to fill out the case, and its even 10 cents less

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/youwannaslap/saved/#view=Xb8g3C

Edited August 31, 2023 by youwannaslap
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[SomeDumDum]

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

I wouldn't spend  your entire savings on a PC, that's an absolutely horrible use of the money.

If you're budget constricted, buy used parts from eBay. You can get a computer just as good as your $3,000 budget for well under $1,000 with some waiting and sniping auctions. The build you have linked is a mismash of ancient parts and things I wouldn't bother buying at any price.

 

Welcome to the forum.

Yeah, my current Pc was gifted to my by an early coworker who was likely just trying to get rid of it. Btw thank you for the advice.

[SomeDumDum]

1 hour ago, Hinjima said:

are you only using your PC for gaming?

Pretty much, slight video editing but nothing that should change opinion of parts.

[SomeDumDum]

1 hour ago, youwannaslap said:

like others will ask, what's the expected work case for this machine? is it just for gaming or also work? looking at your dream build, the CPU seems overkill if its just for gaming, plus you've paired an unlocked 24 core CPU with a mid range b760 motherboard.

edit: I made a new list using some of the same parts from your dream build with a few tweaks that I personally think are more befitting to your budget. faster gpu, more appropriate cpu and motherboard combo, and replaced the sata ssds with pci 4.0 drives that are faster AND cheaper. threw in a couple extra fans to fill out the case, and its even 10 cents less

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/youwannaslap/saved/#view=Xb8g3C

As you guessed The MAIN purpose for the Pc is to provide a smooth gaming experience. Thank you very much I will take every piece of advice. One question tho I compared the ssds in My Dream to the one you sent and all the benchmarks were slower, besides the Sequential Read Throughput 50% which was 3X!! I’m not the BEST with computer stuff so I’m not sure what Sequential Read Throughput 50% means so if you could tell me please?

[youwannaslap]

4 minutes ago, SomeDumDum said:

As you guessed The MAIN purpose for the Pc is to provide a smooth gaming experience. Thank you very much I will take every piece of advice. One question tho I compared the ssds in My Dream to the one you sent and all the benchmarks were slower, besides the Sequential Read Throughput 50% which was 3X!! I’m not the BEST with computer stuff so I’m not sure what Sequential Read Throughput 50% means so if you could tell me please?

i'm not sure how pcpartpicker gets its performance metrics for storage drives, but i've never found them to be the same when compared to other outlets and benchmark data.

the samsung SSDs you picked out are SATA SSDs, and SATA has a maximum throughput of about 600MB/s. PCI-E drives like the ones I picked out are much newer technology using NVME and can reach much much faster speeds. the drives I chose for example, looking at crystal diskmark, can hit around 3000-5000MB/s. newer games coming out are going to start taking advantage of those faster speeds as well, so its best to avoid choosing those slower drives and kneecapping your new PC

sources:
SATA performance http://www.cdrlabs.com/reviews/samsung-870-evo-1tb-solid-state-drive/performance-crystaldiskmark-hd-tach-and-atto.html
PCI-E performance http://www.cdrlabs.com/reviews/crucial-p3-plus-2tb-pcie-nvme-m2-solid-state-drive/performance-crystaldiskmark-hd-tach-and-atto.html
 

[brob]

If the goal is a gaming system that provides smooth 1440 play with max settings at high refresh rates consider less CPU and more GPU performance.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($384.00 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 DIGITAL 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($82.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.95 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($299.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($299.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  ($1170.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($117.98 @ Other World Computing) 
Total: $2901.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-31 20:22 EDT-0400

 

Personally I think 8TB of storage is vast overkill. And, 1000W PSU is much more than needed.

[SomeDumDum]

14 minutes ago, youwannaslap said:

i'm not sure how pcpartpicker gets its performance metrics for storage drives, but i've never found them to be the same when compared to other outlets and benchmark data.

the samsung SSDs you picked out are SATA SSDs, and SATA has a maximum throughput of about 600MB/s. PCI-E drives like the ones I picked out are much newer technology using NVME and can reach much much faster speeds. the drives I chose for example, looking at crystal diskmark, can hit around 3000-5000MB/s. newer games coming out are going to start taking advantage of those faster speeds as well, so its best to avoid choosing those slower drives and kneecapping your new PC

sources:
SATA performance http://www.cdrlabs.com/reviews/samsung-870-evo-1tb-solid-state-drive/performance-crystaldiskmark-hd-tach-and-atto.html
PCI-E performance http://www.cdrlabs.com/reviews/crucial-p3-plus-2tb-pcie-nvme-m2-solid-state-drive/performance-crystaldiskmark-hd-tach-and-atto.html
 

Thank you sooo much for giving my this information and advice, I will definitely be switching to m.2, a couple more questions, 1. Why are the writing results for the NVME drive so inconsistent? And why did you choose the motherboard you chose? Did PcpartPicker leave out info again?

[SomeDumDum]

8 minutes ago, brob said:

If the goal is a gaming system that provides smooth 1440 play with max settings at high refresh rates consider less CPU and more GPU performance.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($384.00 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 DIGITAL 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($82.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.95 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($299.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($299.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  ($1170.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($117.98 @ Other World Computing) 
Total: $2901.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-31 20:22 EDT-0400

 

Personally I think 8TB of storage is vast overkill. And, 1000W PSU is much more than needed.

Thank you a ton, I take every recommendation to heart, but the 8TB is definitely needed. Idk if it’s the Hdd I’m using but the 4TB is already almost full and I’ve only been playing games on it for a couple years. And 1 question, is the 1000W PSU really overkill? Please let me know, I’d like to get some speakers and a faster mouse I’m just not sure if it’ll draw more power?

[brob]

Just now, SomeDumDum said:

Thank you a ton, I take every recommendation to heart, but the 8TB is definitely needed. Idk if it’s the Hdd I’m using but the 4TB is already almost full and I’ve only been playing games on it for a couple years. And 1 question, is the 1000W PSU really overkill? Please let me know, I’d like to get some speakers and a faster mouse I’m just not sure if it’ll draw more power?

 

Speakers and mice do not really impact PSU requirements. 

 

The GPU manufacturer specs indicate 750W is sufficient and recommend an 850W unit.

[youwannaslap]

32 minutes ago, SomeDumDum said:

Thank you sooo much for giving my this information and advice, I will definitely be switching to m.2, a couple more questions, 1. Why are the writing results for the NVME drive so inconsistent? And why did you choose the motherboard you chose? Did PcpartPicker leave out info again?

the writing results do jump around quite a bit in those benchmarks, and i'm not sure exactly why they do, but writing isn't nearly as important as reading when playing games. I can at least tell you anecdotally from personal experience using a crucial p3 in my system as a game drive that games perform perfectly fine.

as for the motherboard, I chose that one for two reasons. 1) it uses the z790 chipset which will unlock the full potential of your CPU. lower end chipsets on Intel's platform (like the b760 you chose) typically lock away functionality like overclocking/undervolting which could come in handy in the future if you ever want to tweak your CPU performance. and 2) its the same manufacturer as the one you chose (gigabyte) and it looked pretty much the same as the board you picked. when I was putting together my list, I was trying to keep in mind the overall look of the parts you chose and try to match it.

I also saw in one of your other replies to someone that you asked about the power supply and if it was overkill, and while yes 1000w is a bit overkill for this machine, my line of thinking is better safe than sorry when it comes to your power supply. it also helps that for a 1000w 80+ gold rated power supply, its actually reasonably priced at $160, which is why I kept it in my parts list.

[SomeDumDum]

25 minutes ago, brob said:

 

Speakers and mice do not really impact PSU requirements. 

 

The GPU manufacturer specs indicate 750W is sufficient and recommend an 850W unit.

Ok that you for clearing the concerns I had, you've been extremely helpful thank you.

[SomeDumDum]

1 hour ago, youwannaslap said:

the writing results do jump around quite a bit in those benchmarks, and i'm not sure exactly why they do, but writing isn't nearly as important as reading when playing games. I can at least tell you anecdotally from personal experience using a crucial p3 in my system as a game drive that games perform perfectly fine.

as for the motherboard, I chose that one for two reasons. 1) it uses the z790 chipset which will unlock the full potential of your CPU. lower end chipsets on Intel's platform (like the b760 you chose) typically lock away functionality like overclocking/undervolting which could come in handy in the future if you ever want to tweak your CPU performance. and 2) its the same manufacturer as the one you chose (gigabyte) and it looked pretty much the same as the board you picked. when I was putting together my list, I was trying to keep in mind the overall look of the parts you chose and try to match it.

I also saw in one of your other replies to someone that you asked about the power supply and if it was overkill, and while yes 1000w is a bit overkill for this machine, my line of thinking is better safe than sorry when it comes to your power supply. it also helps that for a 1000w 80+ gold rated power supply, its actually reasonably priced at $160, which is why I kept it in my parts list.

Ok, I've looked over everything and came up with something more "expert"ly built if you wanna give it a quick look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Monkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/saved/#view=C4d8Q7

[youwannaslap]

9 minutes ago, SomeDumDum said:

Ok, I've looked over everything and came up with something more "expert"ly built if you wanna give it a quick look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Monkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/saved/#view=C4d8Q7

much better! definitely a more well rounded and balanced build i'd still suggest getting a couple more fans to put in the front of the case, that'll help create more positive air pressure and push cool air through your components keeping temps down. the noctua fans I had in my list before are great and quiet, but you could also just get some more corsair fans like the ones already in the case for cheaper https://a.co/d/fjhhmJH
if you do get 2 more case fans, you're gonna need a splitter to plug them all into the motherboard since it only has 3 case fan headers, here's a link for one of those too https://a.co/d/bUOamM6

 

everything else though looks spot on!