GPU/PSU compatibility

[Mikaizen]

Situation:
I built a budget PC and eventually started considering upgrade options. During research I couldn't find a definitive answer to a key question regarding cabling.
The PSU I have is Bronze rated/650W. The GPU it powers is a factory OC 2060. While looking for possible GPU upgrades I saw a 4070 was a potential option since a 650W PSU is the minimum recommended for it and I found a factory OC 4070 was one of the easier cards for me to get. My concerns were then whether a 650W would work fine for a 4070 and whether a factory OC 4070 would work too or not. Then as I did research I found another big question was whether the cabling with the PSU I have would work.
PSU: https://www.aresgame.com/POWER.php?id=22&&name=AGV650
This non modular PSU has one PCIe cable that splits into two 8(6+2) heads, one of which has been used to power the 2060 and the other is unused.

I have looked over many posts about this issue and I have a good understanding of the ideal situation and why that is but I would appreciate answers for the following questions for my particular PSU so I can have a better understanding of what I can do with it.

Questions:
1) Can the 2 8(6+2) heads be used to connect this PSU to a 4070 and power it fine?
2) Would a regular 4070 work but not a factor OC one?
3) For future builds, are 2 separate cable support something I should look for as a basic feature of a PSU?

I will probably end up building a new PC altogether but if anyone can recommend the most powerful GPU upgrade for this PSU I would also appreciate that.

[--SID--]

31 minutes ago, Mikaizen said:

PSU: https://www.aresgame.com/POWER.php?id=22&&name=AGV650

Group regulated trash that has to be replaced anyway. Aresgame is a very unreliable brand that manipulates review samples to make it look better than it really is. I would not trust my new expensive GPU to an Aresgame shitbox.

[Alex Atkin UK]

OC vs none OC is largely a marketing gimmick as 40x0 series all OC by default.  The main difference is how far you can push the power limit over stock which is entirely optional and generally does very little.

[Bagzie]

1 hour ago, Mikaizen said:

Situation:
I built a budget PC and eventually started considering upgrade options. During research I couldn't find a definitive answer to a key question regarding cabling.
The PSU I have is Bronze rated/650W. The GPU it powers is a factory OC 2060. While looking for possible GPU upgrades I saw a 4070 was a potential option since a 650W PSU is the minimum recommended for it and I found a factory OC 4070 was one of the easier cards for me to get. My concerns were then whether a 650W would work fine for a 4070 and whether a factory OC 4070 would work too or not. Then as I did research I found another big question was whether the cabling with the PSU I have would work.
PSU: https://www.aresgame.com/POWER.php?id=22&&name=AGV650
This non modular PSU has one PCIe cable that splits into two 8(6+2) heads, one of which has been used to power the 2060 and the other is unused.

I have looked over many posts about this issue and I have a good understanding of the ideal situation and why that is but I would appreciate answers for the following questions for my particular PSU so I can have a better understanding of what I can do with it.

Questions:
1) Can the 2 8(6+2) heads be used to connect this PSU to a 4070 and power it fine?
2) Would a regular 4070 work but not a factor OC one?
3) For future builds, are 2 separate cable support something I should look for as a basic feature of a PSU?

I will probably end up building a new PC altogether but if anyone can recommend the most powerful GPU upgrade for this PSU I would also appreciate that.

Although that PSU really is trash daisy chained cables is sometimes ok.

 

As an example I run my 7900XT with 2x8 pins on separate cables mated to my Corsair HX750w.

 

This to me is important because I have it undervolted with a higher power limit (355w) because I like to get the most I can from it.

 

With the 75w PCIE slot power that leaves 280w from the 2x8 pin cables which is pretty close to the 150w per connector atx spec.

 

Could I daisy chain and still run it? Probably but it's not something I would be comfortable with.

 

Now a 4070 is a 200w card , with the 75w PCIE slot power that leaves 125w from the 2x8 pin pcie connectors.

 

I would not worry atall about daisy chaining a 4070.

 

Hopefully that made sense.

 

Anyways your psu is really bad but if you want to risk it then it would probably be ok but I would replace it as soon as you had the budget for it.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Pretty meh psu

 

Would work for lower power stuff like that 2060 but anything better and itll fall flat on its face, already pretty apparent that its a meh unit by just looking at the 12v rail thats only rated at 588w

 

doubt itd handle a 4070 but perfectly usable for older lower power stuff and should be perfectly safe to use

 

Btw full specs of your current pc? No real reason to build a completely new one when you can upgrade your existing pc

 

Also budget and country? Buying used gpus and used psus are a good way to save some money

[Bagzie]

9 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Pretty meh psu

 

Would work for lower power stuff like that 2060 but anything better and itll fall flat on its face, already pretty apparent that its a meh unit by just looking at the 12v rail thats only rated at 588w

 

doubt itd handle a 4070 but perfectly usable for older lower power stuff and should be perfectly safe to use

 

Btw full specs of your current pc? No real reason to build a completely new one when you can upgrade your existing pc

 

Also budget and country? Buying used gpus and used psus are a good way to save some money

It's a rubbish PSU but a 4070 is hardly a power hungry monster at 200w.

 

That's only 40w more than the 2060.

 

If something is perfectly safe to use but then falling flat on its face because of 40watts of difference then one of those statements has to be incorrect.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 minutes ago, Bagzie said:

It's a rubbish PSU but a 4070 is hardly a power hungry monster at 200w.

 

That's only 40w more than the 2060.

if thats the case might aswell give it a shot

 

Though might be better to just resell that psu for like 20-30$ and buy yourself a used 750/850w gold for like 40-60$, once the argument of price is gone there really is no reason not to uograde the psu esp when you can save power bills and have upgrade headroom in the long term

 

if you can resell the psu and buy a used 750/850w gold for a decent price then might aswell swap it, if not then assuming that unit is fine with a 4070 just keep the aresgame