First ever self build pc

[Baumfummler]

Budget (including currency): 4- 5k €

Country: germany  

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Starcitizen

Other details: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tD8MpB

 

Its my very first build and want to be sure that everything is working together as it should. 

 

Greeting from Germany

[Catzzye]

There are few questions on my mind.

That's a very impressive budget for the first PC build!

Tho, why not go for 4090?

4090 is an insanely powerful card, but if you're a true power user with an appropriate budget, it can be a stellar choice.

For the rest, everything is bleeding edge, so there's not much to say.

Other than do you really need a Windows key? You can use a regular/free version of Windows until you get it all running.

[leclod]

can't you get a 790 mb ?

cl40 sounds bad

you probably have a windows 7,8,9,10 key lying somewhere (or you could buy a cheap one for 15.-, same for Office)

Edited August 9, 2023 by leclod

[Baumfummler]

17 minutes ago, Catzzye said:

There are few questions on my mind.

That's a very impressive budget for the first PC build!

Tho, why not go for 4090?

4090 is an insanely powerful card, but if you're a true power user with an appropriate budget, it can be a stellar choice.

For the rest, everything is bleeding edge, so there's not much to say.

Other than do you really need a Windows key? You can use a regular/free version of Windows until you get it all running.

Thanks for reply,

i dont really know why not a 4090. Mayby im a bit scared with all the rumor of smelting conectors?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

At this budget a 4090 is a bare minimum gpu to have, no reason to get a lower end card

 

If gaming is all you want to do then a 7800x3d would be a better choice due to the massive cache and would also be more power efficient, low clockspeeds can be rectified by simply buying an async eclk board (b650e taichi, aorus master, x670e-a/f) and overclocking via bclk (afaik theres a mode that doesnt affect pcie clock just like intel bclk strap so completely safe) though there isnt that much headroom due to the insulating 3d cache and ihs unless you build a phase change cooler for the cpu for constant subzero temp (very doable with this budget but most ppl dont have the knowledge to build one so just ignore for now, also custom loops dont do shit for cooling here)

[Catzzye]

I really wouldn’t worry. Those cables have started to be replaced with more ‘safe’ ones and those incidents only happened because the connectors haven’t been plugged in all the way in. As long as you plug them in all the way there won’t be issues.

 

[Why_Me]

18 minutes ago, Baumfummler said:

Thanks for reply,

i dont really know why not a 4090. Mayby im a bit scared with all the rumor of smelting conectors?

This power supply down below eliminates any issues with those connectors. With that said the 13900K is not a good choice for a gaming cpu. It runs hot and the difference between that cpu and the i7 is five frames per second at best.  Another thing is you do not want a older Z690 board for a DDR5 build due to the inferior memory support. Also try and keep your M.2 drives the same so you don't run into software issues.  32GB of RAM is more than enough for Starfield or any game for that matter.

 

That three pack of Lian Li fans goes inside the top of the case where an AIO would normally go. Low profile RAM so that it doesn't impede that dual tower cpu cooler.

 

https://geizhals.de/   <--- check this site for better prices on these components.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€405.80 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€61.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€243.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€114.33 @ Computeruniverse) 
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€74.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€299.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: *MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1788.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€117.89 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: *SeaSonic VERTEX GX-1200 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€259.00 @ ARLT) 
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 64.5 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (€95.97 @ Mindfactory) 
Total: €3461.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 17:00 CEST+0200

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://seasonic.com/vertex-gx

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler/2022/16082.shtml 

 

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd#WDS100T2X0E  

 

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-4090-GAMING-X-TRIO-24G 

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

 

Add this to that build.

https://geizhals.de/lian-li-lan216-1-additional-i-o-kit-lan216-1x-a2853841.html  

Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ARGB Controller and USB Module (Black) €14,64 

 

 

[SorryBella]

36 minutes ago, Catzzye said:

Tho, why not go for 4090?

Star Citizen wont use any of it anyway, its a fucking shitty game in terms of GPU bound optimization. Getting a 7800X3D is basically a must for a flagship Star Citizen machine due to how inefficient the CPU draw calls are.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€453.99 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€61.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€182.88 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€120.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1685.99 @ Cyberport) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€83.97 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€130.66 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2830.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 17:10 CEST+0200

 

@Why_Me Ya might also want to eye this. 

[Baumfummler]

16 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

This power supply down below eliminates any issues with those connectors. With that said the 13900K is not a good choice for a gaming cpu. It runs hot and the difference between that cpu and the i7 is five frames per second at best.  Another thing is you do not want a older Z690 board for a DDR5 build due to the inferior memory support. Also try and keep your M.2 drives the same so you don't run into software issues.  32GB of RAM is more than enough for Starfield or any game for that matter.

 

That three pack of Lian Li fans goes inside the top of the case where an AIO would normally go. Low profile RAM so that it doesn't impede that dual tower cpu cooler.

 

https://geizhals.de/   <--- check this site for better prices on these components.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€405.80 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€61.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€243.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€114.33 @ Computeruniverse) 
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€74.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€299.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: *MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1788.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€117.89 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: *SeaSonic VERTEX GX-1200 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€259.00 @ ARLT) 
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 64.5 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (€95.97 @ Mindfactory) 
Total: €3461.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 17:00 CEST+0200

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://seasonic.com/vertex-gx

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler/2022/16082.shtml 

 

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd#WDS100T2X0E  

 

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-4090-GAMING-X-TRIO-24G 

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

 

Add this to that build.

https://geizhals.de/lian-li-lan216-1-additional-i-o-kit-lan216-1x-a2853841.html  

Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ARGB Controller and USB Module (Black) €14,64 

 

 

why this cooler and not an AIO?

[Why_Me]

3 minutes ago, Baumfummler said:

why this cooler and not an AIO?

Because an air cooler last longer and has far less issues. There's a review of the non ARGB version of that cooler on Toms Hardware.