Finishing up details and part list for a PC

[TheGater]

Budget (including currency): ~4000€

Country: Spain

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, Streaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Hello I've made a couple posts about this PC already and rn I'm just fine-tuning the list. I decided to swap the RTX 4080 for a RX 7900 XTX for budget and performance reasons.

(This build will have one [60/75Hz idk] 1080p monitor and one 144Hz 4K monitor.)

 

Couple questions: is i7-13700K too much for RX 7900 XTX? Is an 850W PSU enough for the estimated 760W draw? Anything y'all would change/are concerned about in this build? Basically feedback like "yay" or "nay"

 

 

PCPartPicker: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/7J9scH

 

[DatNapk1n47]

I wouldn't say it's too much, but that depends on what you intend to do with the PC. You could probably get away with the 12700k with similar performance since the jump wasn't that drastic, or even an i5 since I don't think you need all the cores. If the 100ish EUR difference is not meaningful enough to you then get the 13th gen, if you want to save it, get the 12th or i5 I'd say. Also, 360mm AIOs are a headache to install and perform maintenance on (believe me, I know, I have one too), and the pumps fail a lot more often than you'd think (mine failed once) with not much cooling benefit. I'd recommend you take Uncle Linus' advice and get an NH-D15. You'd save some money and hassle with that with basically the same cooling performance (290W vs 220W for a 125W chip). Otherwise, the build looks amazing, have fun building!

 

P.S.:4K high refresh (27 and 32 inch) OLED monitors are right around the corner as far as I've seen, and if that sounds like something you'd be interested in, then you can hold out a bit on the monitor.

[TheGater]

8 minutes ago, DatNapk1n47 said:

I wouldn't say it's too much, but that depends on what you intend to do with the PC. You could probably get away with the 12700k with similar performance since the jump wasn't that drastic, or even an i5 since I don't think you need all the cores. If the 100ish EUR difference is not meaningful enough to you then get the 13th gen, if you want to save it, get the 12th or i5 I'd say. Also, 360mm AIOs are a headache to install and perform maintenance on (believe me, I know, I have one too), and the pumps fail a lot more often than you'd think (mine failed once) with not much cooling benefit. I'd recommend you take Uncle Linus' advice and get an NH-D15. You'd save some money and hassle with that with basically the same cooling performance (290W vs 220W for a 125W chip). Otherwise, the build looks amazing, have fun building!

 

P.S.:4K high refresh (27 and 32 inch) OLED monitors are right around the corner as far as I've seen, and if that sounds like something you'd be interested in, then you can hold out a bit on the monitor.

Thank you for sharing your experience! It will take a while before this build will be put together so I'll definitely look out for that monitor recommendation. I'll do some research with the AIO Cooler. Thanks again!

Btw would a 240mm AIO be easier to install and maintain or is that just an AIO thing?

[PDifolco]

41 minutes ago, TheGater said:

Budget (including currency): ~4000€

Country: Spain

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, Streaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Hello I've made a couple posts about this PC already and rn I'm just fine-tuning the list. I decided to swap the RTX 4080 for a RX 7900 XTX for budget and performance reasons.

(This build will have one [60/75Hz idk] 1080p monitor and one 144Hz 4K monitor.)

 

Couple questions: is i7-13700K too much for RX 7900 XTX? Is an 850W PSU enough for the estimated 760W draw? Anything y'all would change/are concerned about in this build? Basically feedback like "yay" or "nay"

 

 

PCPartPicker: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/7J9scH

 

You got enough budget for no compromise, go for a 4090, just optimizing some expenses (cooling..) :

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€448.80 @ Neobyte) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€56.64 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€235.21 @ LIFE Informatica) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€133.80 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€100.79 @ Neobyte) 
Video Card: Gainward Phantom GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1673.86 @ LIFE Informatica) 
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  (€135.44 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€146.80 @ Neobyte) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (€29.31 @ Amazon Espana) 
Monitor: Gigabyte ‎M28U 28.0" 3840 x 2160 144 Hz Monitor  (€556.03 @ LIFE Informatica) 
Headphones: Razer BlackShark V2 X 7.1 Channel  Headset  (€60.00) 
Webcam: Avermedia PW513 Webcam  (€179.39 @ Amazon Espana) 
Custom: NEEWER Microphone Suspension Boom Scissor Arm Stand  (€22.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Custom: Samson Vocal Dynamic Broadcast Microphone, XLR/USB (Q9U)  (€200.00) 
Total: €3979.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-07 21:06 CEST+0200

[DatNapk1n47]

It's mostly just an AIO thing since dust gets between the fins so you have to pull the whole thing out to dust it, but I guess in a sense it's a bit better with a 240 since there's less surface area to clean and it might be easier to install it since you have a smaller-ish case. The pump issue isn't going away though. Btw if you do end up getting an AIO make sure to install the radiator with the tubes facing down. Not an expert but GamersNexus made a great video on the topic that you can check out.

 

Also, @PDifolco is right, if you can afford it, you should go for the 4090, the performance uplift is BIG and it's worth saving on the other components a bit. Intel or AMD processor should be your choice based on preference though. I know people have strong opinions about that so if you want intel, get intel and vice versa, performance isn't too different.

[TheGater]

11 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

You got enough budget for no compromise, go for a 4090, just optimizing some expenses (cooling..) :

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€448.80 @ Neobyte) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€56.64 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€235.21 @ LIFE Informatica) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€133.80 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€100.79 @ Neobyte) 
Video Card: Gainward Phantom GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1673.86 @ LIFE Informatica) 
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  (€135.44 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€146.80 @ Neobyte) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (€29.31 @ Amazon Espana) 
Monitor: Gigabyte ‎M28U 28.0" 3840 x 2160 144 Hz Monitor  (€556.03 @ LIFE Informatica) 
Headphones: Razer BlackShark V2 X 7.1 Channel  Headset  (€60.00) 
Webcam: Avermedia PW513 Webcam  (€179.39 @ Amazon Espana) 
Custom: NEEWER Microphone Suspension Boom Scissor Arm Stand  (€22.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Custom: Samson Vocal Dynamic Broadcast Microphone, XLR/USB (Q9U)  (€200.00) 
Total: €3979.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-07 21:06 CEST+0200

Yeah the person I'm helping build this for wanted to order all from Amazon for convenience but I think paying much less overall will be worth it so I'll talk to them about this build suggestion. Thanks for the recommendation! (I was a bit budget limited because of Amazon earlier)

[TheGater]

6 minutes ago, DatNapk1n47 said:

It's mostly just an AIO thing since dust gets between the fins so you have to pull the whole thing out to dust it, but I guess in a sense it's a bit better with a 240 since there's less surface area to clean and it might be easier to install it since you have a smaller-ish case. The pump issue isn't going away though. Btw if you do end up getting an AIO make sure to install the radiator with the tubes facing down. Not an expert but GamersNexus made a great video on the topic that you can check out.

 

Also, @PDifolco is right, if you can afford it, you should go for the 4090, the performance uplift is BIG and it's worth saving on the other components a bit. Intel or AMD processor should be your choice based on preference though. I know people have strong opinions about that so if you want intel, get intel and vice versa, performance isn't too different.

I did just check out the Noctua NH-D15 and WOW, that thing can keep the i9-13900K at 76 Degrees max??! I think that'll be perfect because my friend wanted to go with a Noctua look anyway (case and fans with Noctua color palette), thanks a lot bruv! Will save me some headache inducing maintenance and installation.

[PDifolco]

24 minutes ago, TheGater said:

I did just check out the Noctua NH-D15 and WOW, that thing can keep the i9-13900K at 76 Degrees max??! I think that'll be perfect because my friend wanted to go with a Noctua look anyway (case and fans with Noctua color palette), thanks a lot bruv! Will save me some headache inducing maintenance and installation.

DH-15 is fine but enormous and expensive, the newer AK620, PE120 and some others are cheaper and as good,  esp. on 12th/13th gen Intel because the old DH-15 don't cover the new IHS very well