First build from scratch, mixed use build

[Bertjuh]

Budget (including currency): 1.500 - 2.000 EUR. There is a bit of leeway in my budget if I can get a better value by spending a little bit more.

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

MAIN: Design and program lighting show with MA software and WYSIWYG (both in live 3D).

OFF-TIME: Gaming 1440P RT - Cyberpunk 2077, Forza Horizon, Starfield, Factorio etc.

SPARSLY: Illustrator, InDesign and Photoshop

Current system (in short): Z68 board, 3770K, GTX 1060 6GB, 32GB RAM and a 550W PSU

 

 

Hi everyone,

 

My current system is old and sometimes unable to run certain programs. The current system consists of a up to now it works fine but……. It will be my first build from scratch, I did part replacement/ upgrades but never from scratch. So I would like some help to create a working/ balanced system.

 

I want to replace my current system and find a different use case for the other components (maybe create a computer for our media cabinet or something). This new system has to be futureproof, upgradable and (because fun) has to look good. Down the line I would like to upgrade further but for know my budget is a bit lacking, so I made a (I think and hope) balanced build.

 

For now I am would like to reuse my PSU and case (Case 4000D airflow, PSU TX550M both Corsair), unless there is a good reason not to do so.

 

 

These are the components I am looking at: [1.897 EUR]

 

CPU: Intel Core i5 13600KF [310 EUR]

CPU cooler: DeepCool AS500 PLUS [71 EUR]

GPU: Aorus GeForce RTX4060 Ti ELITE 8GB [499 EUR]

Motherboard: Asus TUF gaming Z790-PLUS WIFI [259 EUR]

Memory: Kingston Fury Beast RGB KF556C36BBEAK2-32 [131 EUR]

Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2TB (3x 121 EUR = 363 EUR]

Cage: (already have): Corsair 4000D airflow [0 EUR]

PSU: (already have): Corsair TX550M [0 EUR]

Fans: Arctic P12 PWM PST A-RGB (3-pack) [45 EUR]

OS: Windows 11 Pro retail [219 EUR]

 

I would like to run my storage in RAID 5 for faster read times (for use with MA and WYSIWYG in live 3D) while also being reliable storage.

 

For the OS I would like to use windows 11 Pro, mainly because of the BitLocker feature to be able to use my computer for my business. Because I am using my computer for business, there will be customer information on my computer. Our law states that we have to protect this information and BitLocker is considered adequate enough to "protect" the computer itself.

 

In the future I am going to upgrade the GPU (and therefore the PSU) and maybe the CPU but for now I think this will suffice.

 

 

Help and advice would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance,

Bert

[ioletsgo]

The only thing that I'm a little bit worried about your setup is the GPU. The general consensus with NVIDIA's 4000 series is that they've cheaped out on the VRAM, however their focus on ai cores might benefit you in the MA Software department.

You could probably get a very similar amount of performance for half the price if you go with an AMD Radeon RX 7600. Just a recommendation. However, I would probably wait until AMD releases a revision of the RX 7600 with more VRAM like they did for the RX 6700. 

[Why_Me]

Another option to consider.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€394.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€67.85 @ Alternate) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€163.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6400 CL36 Memory  (€145.85 @ Alternate) 
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€124.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: *Western Digital Blue 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€209.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Video Card: *Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB Video Card  (€429.95 @ Azerty) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€124.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Total: €1661.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-29 00:33 CEST+0200 

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml  

 

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd#WDS200T2X0E

[SorryBella]

10 hours ago, Why_Me said:

Another option to consider.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€394.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€67.85 @ Alternate) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€163.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6400 CL36 Memory  (€145.85 @ Alternate) 
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€124.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: *Western Digital Blue 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€209.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Video Card: *Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB Video Card  (€429.95 @ Azerty) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€124.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Total: €1661.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-29 00:33 CEST+0200 

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml  

 

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd#WDS200T2X0E

4060Ti is pretty borderline for 1440p though.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€423.46 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€43.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€163.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6800 CL34 Memory  (€201.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€112.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Crucial MX500 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€214.43 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€639.00 @ Azerty) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€124.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Total: €1922.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-29 11:09 CEST+0200

[Bertjuh]

12 hours ago, ioletsgo said:

The only thing that I'm a little bit worried about your setup is the GPU. The general consensus with NVIDIA's 4000 series is that they've cheaped out on the VRAM, however their focus on ai cores might benefit you in the MA Software department.

You could probably get a very similar amount of performance for half the price if you go with an AMD Radeon RX 7600. Just a recommendation. However, I would probably wait until AMD releases a revision of the RX 7600 with more VRAM like they did for the RX 6700. 

(Also reacting to SorryBella and Why_Me)

 

This is actually why I chose the 4060Ti (for now at least) over an AMD option. I am willing to upgrade in the future and flip or reuse the GPU (or other parts for that matter) for a better system. For now I need a working (though minimum/ recommended specced) system for my needs (Main use case, main focus/ most important for this system).

 

The only thing I really would not like to change in the future would be the motherboard and the storage, I had a few bad experiences and I am not comfortable changing those if I don't have to. All other parts may be upgraded in the future when I have the means (read money to spare) to do so. This is why I went with this (for now overkill) motherboard and storage solution.

 

I need the fast read times from the SSD for live rendering the shows when programming. Write times do not matter that much since it will be mostly pulling data from storage, not writing. I don't want to go RAID 0 because although I have a back-up, I want the main storage to be a bit more relaible than just RAID 0. It could very well be that in the future I would take the computer with me on a job and that there is no direct connection to my back-up. When there is a failure I would like to be able to reconstruct the storage on site, and yes I would take a spare drive (or 2) with me.

 

If the VRAM could be an issue, would it be a better idea to pick a 4070 to have a bit more VRAM. I know I need to upgrade the PSU when I do, but as I said there is some flexibility in the budget if there is a good reason to do so.

 

I do not want to come across as being pigheaded (I thought about it al lot already), but I want to make the best choice and want to learn from it. Sorry if I come across as being cocky or something, but this would not be my intention.

 

Thanks already for the help!

 

 

PS. I don't use mail order parts in the Netherlands because mail order sucks around here. The merchants I chose have a physical store or pick-up area. I don't want to use mail order merchants like Amazon although they are much cheaper, to me it is not worth the headache it causes.