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6 hours ago, Nyx9691 said:

Is it fine to go with an ASUS motherboard with current controversy going on?

Yes but I would avoid them 

 

6 hours ago, Nyx9691 said:

If I do go with the ASUS motherboard, will the Ryzen 7700x chip be plug and play or will it need a BIOS flashback or something and do all AM5 motherboards need it?

Should be fine without a bios update, though I would still do one

 

6 hours ago, Nyx9691 said:

I plan to get 8 RGB case fans in total, the board has 4 pwm headers (not counting cpu fan header) and 3 ARGB headers. Does that mean I would need 4 y splitters?

Means you need two Y splitters. Or just get an rgb + fan controller

 

6 hours ago, Nyx9691 said:

If recommended PSU wattage is 750, can I stick to that or should I go for something like 1000?

go for 1000 so you can get some leeway in the future for upgrades

 

Instead of getting a 7700x go for something like @SorryBella's build and put in a 1000w psu and a fan + rgb controller like this one Thermalright ARGB AND HUB Controller Support 8 Groups of Fans, 8-Port 3 Pin PC Fan Controller, 5V Fan Hub, Strong Paste+Magnetic Suction, SATA Power Cord Direct Input (12V 4-pin RGB is not supported) : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

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Budget (including currency): £2000

Country: UK 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Heavy games like Star Citizen and upcomming Starfield.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Decided to go with a Ryzen 7700X for CPU, RTX 4070 as GPU, DDR5 RAM and air cooled solution. Was looking at AM5 motherboards and settled on ASUS ROG Strix B650-A.

1. Is it fine to go with an ASUS motherboard with current controversy going on?

2. If I do go with the ASUS motherboard, will the Ryzen 7700x chip be plug and play or will it need a BIOS flashback or something and do all AM5 motherboards need it?

3. I plan to get 8 RGB case fans in total, the board has 4 pwm headers (not counting cpu fan header) and 3 ARGB headers. Does that mean I would need 4 y splitters?

4. If recommended PSU wattage is 750, can I stick to that or should I go for something like 1000?

 

 

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Here's a build that might peak your interest.

 

That same build but in white.

 

Case

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/QcddnQ/lian-li-lancool-216-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-216rw  

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

 

cpu cooler

https://ecprof.com/miscellaneous-accessories/r-ag620-whanmn-g-2-ag620-wh-argb-processor-cooler.html  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-WH-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16083.shtml

 

ram

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tbYmP6/gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-rs5w 

 

argb fans

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/K3KKHx/lian-li-uni-fan-sl-v2-645-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-sl120v2-3w 

 

https://lian-li.com/product/uni-fan-sl-v2/

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£349.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (£57.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£149.98 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£103.69 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£89.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (£776.39 @ Newegg UK) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£114.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£104.99 @ Box Limited) 
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 64.5 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (£89.12 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1836.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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1 hour ago, Why_Me said:

 

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£349.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 

5 hours ago, Nyx9691 said:

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Heavy games like Star Citizen and upcomming Starfield.

Both are going to be a cache hog (that is unless if Todd Howard pulled a miracle and update Creation to scale more than like 2 cores), and 7800X3D can match 13900K in SC. The 7800X3D is 130 Pounds cheaper.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£412.11 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (£57.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£182.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£110.81 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£82.24 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (£876.86 @ NeoComputers) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£104.99 @ Box Limited) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£6.89 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1899.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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7900XTX or 4070Ti. Pick your poison.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Nyx9691 said:

Is it fine to go with an ASUS motherboard with current controversy going on?

Yes but I would avoid them 

 

6 hours ago, Nyx9691 said:

If I do go with the ASUS motherboard, will the Ryzen 7700x chip be plug and play or will it need a BIOS flashback or something and do all AM5 motherboards need it?

Should be fine without a bios update, though I would still do one

 

6 hours ago, Nyx9691 said:

I plan to get 8 RGB case fans in total, the board has 4 pwm headers (not counting cpu fan header) and 3 ARGB headers. Does that mean I would need 4 y splitters?

Means you need two Y splitters. Or just get an rgb + fan controller

 

6 hours ago, Nyx9691 said:

If recommended PSU wattage is 750, can I stick to that or should I go for something like 1000?

go for 1000 so you can get some leeway in the future for upgrades

 

Instead of getting a 7700x go for something like @SorryBella's build and put in a 1000w psu and a fan + rgb controller like this one Thermalright ARGB AND HUB Controller Support 8 Groups of Fans, 8-Port 3 Pin PC Fan Controller, 5V Fan Hub, Strong Paste+Magnetic Suction, SATA Power Cord Direct Input (12V 4-pin RGB is not supported) : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

Quote me if you want me to get notified

 

Current parts list: PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For £175.00) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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26 minutes ago, filpo said:

rgb controller

  1. 2 x addressable LED strip headers

Put the chassis fans in D_LED 1, and put the CPU fan in D_LED 2.

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10 hours ago, Why_Me said:

750W is fine for that setup. Just don't let those RGB fans eat up your budget.  What's your monitor resolution?

Samsung G5 34 inch 1440p ultrawide. Currently running it off my laptop but I plan to play most games at 1440p hence needed that 12gb VRAM or would have settled for a 8 gig GPU card.

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8 hours ago, Why_Me said:

Here's a build that might peak your interest.

 

That same build but in white.

 

Case

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/QcddnQ/lian-li-lancool-216-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-216rw  

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

 

cpu cooler

https://ecprof.com/miscellaneous-accessories/r-ag620-whanmn-g-2-ag620-wh-argb-processor-cooler.html  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-WH-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16083.shtml

 

ram

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tbYmP6/gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-rs5w 

 

argb fans

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/K3KKHx/lian-li-uni-fan-sl-v2-645-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-sl120v2-3w 

 

https://lian-li.com/product/uni-fan-sl-v2/

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£349.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (£57.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£149.98 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£103.69 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£89.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (£776.39 @ Newegg UK) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£114.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£104.99 @ Box Limited) 
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 64.5 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (£89.12 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1836.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-27 07:26 BST+0100

 

   

 

Thanks for the recommendations, could really use that cpu cooler and the PSU. I was planing on going CORSAIR for the case fans. The Lian Li ones dont sit right with me, and as for the case was looking at a Hyte-y60. In love with the design. I have loads of storage lying around so will just scavenge that stuff.

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7 hours ago, SorryBella said:

Both are going to be a cache hog (that is unless if Todd Howard pulled a miracle and update Creation to scale more than like 2 cores), and 7800X3D can match 13900K in SC. The 7800X3D is 130 Pounds cheaper.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£412.11 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (£57.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£182.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£110.81 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£82.24 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (£876.86 @ NeoComputers) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£104.99 @ Box Limited) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£6.89 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1899.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-27 09:31 BST+0100

 

7900XTX or 4070Ti. Pick your poison.

 

 

Thanks for the GPU recommendation, not sure how I feel about using an AMD GPU, call me old fashioned. The 7800X3D on the other hand does make a really nice case for SC. I dont mind shelling out an aditional 100 quid on it ig.

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Just now, Nyx9691 said:

Thanks for the GPU recommendation, not sure how I feel about using an AMD GPU, call me old fashioned. The 7800X3D on the other hand does make a really nice case for SC. I dont mind shelling out an aditional 100 quid on it ig.

if you really don't like AMD (for whatever reason) then I'd get a 4080 

Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card (GV-N4080EAGLE OC-16GD) - PCPartPicker

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

Quote me if you want me to get notified

 

Current parts list: PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For £175.00) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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6 hours ago, filpo said:

Yes but I would avoid them 

 

Should be fine without a bios update, though I would still do one

 

Means you need two Y splitters. Or just get an rgb + fan controller

 

go for 1000 so you can get some leeway in the future for upgrades

 

Instead of getting a 7700x go for something like @SorryBella's build and put in a 1000w psu and a fan + rgb controller like this one Thermalright ARGB AND HUB Controller Support 8 Groups of Fans, 8-Port 3 Pin PC Fan Controller, 5V Fan Hub, Strong Paste+Magnetic Suction, SATA Power Cord Direct Input (12V 4-pin RGB is not supported) : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Could you run me down on how I would need only 2 splitters...sorry I am really confused on when to use ARGB and when not to and what rgb and fan controllers are. Then there is this Corsair Commander Pro digital fan and lighting controller and something else called Corsair RGB LED Fan Hub Controller. Are these the samething as you recommended?

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