PC Overheating?

[TurboTrym]

Im playing Black Desert Online. ive heard its CPU heavy, but i have no idea.

Specs:

CPU 13900ks

GPU 4090

AIO NZXT ELITE 360mm

PSU 1500 WATT Corsair

MOBO Z790 Apex Maximus

G.Skill Trident Z5 7200 mhz

 

Looking at these picture. is there something i should be worried about?

 

 

I did clear min-max then waited 1 minute and just stayed afk ingame. these were the results.

 

 

My pump is at full load. AIO Fans is running at 75% (1450 rpm) 

to me this is a little bit weird. cuz when running this game at remastered. i sometimes get a FPS drop, by a lot. it can sit stable at 143-144. 1 sec later i can go down to 100 fps. then back up to 143-144.

when the drop comes. i assume its because of the thermal throttle, which cause the mhz freq to drop by a lot. and therefore i get that stuttering. anyone else has any suggestions?

Tried to disable multi-core enhancement to prevent overheating. which didnt do anything. I guess its not normal to see 100C top temp after 1 min of standing afk ingame on multible cores?

 

Just put that picture in here in case theres some new info to be looked at

 

[emosun]

cpu seems to be running hot while the usage is low so redo the cpu cooler installation and see if it has any effect

[TurboTrym]

7 minutes ago, emosun said:

cpu seems to be running hot while the usage is low so redo the cpu cooler installation and see if it has any effect

I think this might be due to all the 16E cores which is not doing a lot in the background. as gaming only requires the main P-cores. therefore the CPU usage might seem low.

[emosun]

4 minutes ago, TurboTrym said:

I think this might be due to all the 16E cores which is not doing a lot in the background. as gaming only requires the main P-cores. therefore the CPU usage might seem low.

if the cpu is only being 25% utilized then the cpu usage is low.

[leclod]

Watch this :

 

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, TurboTrym said:

AIO NZXT ELITE 360mm

is your AIO being fed good fresh air for the radiator to cool properly?

[TurboTrym]

27 minutes ago, leclod said:

Watch this :

 

I have the Thermal Gizzly contact frame applied

[TurboTrym]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

is your AIO being fed good fresh air for the radiator to cool properly?

Im running H9 Elite and Radiator on top. its hot af on top, maybe thats the reason for this thermal issue.

Maybe radiator on the side with 3 fans and intake and 3 as exhoust would suit this 13900ks?

 

Remounted multible times. i can hear pump aswell from 0 to 100. the sound is clear, dont think the aio is the problem itself

[NekoBubbles]

Yeah recent new intel CPU's  have been really pulling new highs for thermals even compared to their Ryzen equivalents. Its got  the same design as a threadripper so its made to chew through work at the cost of though of course power. 

[leclod]

10 minutes ago, TurboTrym said:

Remounted multible times. i can hear pump aswell from 0 to 100. the sound is clear, dont think the aio is the problem itself

I would think the pump rpm to be constant, like 40%. At least at low load.

Edit : you have the pump always at 100% ? this probably is unnecessary

But why the fans at 75% ? ramp those up to 100% when temps are rising

Edited July 22, 2023 by leclod

[NekoBubbles]

7 minutes ago, NekoBubbles said:

Yeah recent new intel CPU's  have been really pulling new highs for thermals even compared to their Ryzen equivalents. Its got  the same design as a threadripper so its made to chew through work at the cost of though of course power. 

If you wanna keep that 13900KS I can't believe I'm suggesting it. But you may need to bump up a full another AIO size for this beast. That is if you don't wanna like have to underclock and under volt this SOB CPU. 

 

Just looking at the test bench thermals on it and it makes the Ryzen 7 5800x that was pulling high 90's at times (out of the box) seem like a Ice cube in comparison. 

 

Edit: For those who need context people are using the 13900KS for just general content creation not even streaming just making videos and the 13900KS is getting hot enough to  heat the room up to for its users  to be sweating enough bullets as they say to a point they are drenched.

 

And I love powerful hardware. But this is even in my case as a PC hardware lover a tad just over the limit of where I'd question a persons sanity to own this CPU with how hot it is. 

 

[jaslion]

There might be a mount issue but also a 13900ks is literally not coolable by any off thr shelf part unless you slow it down.

 

That and you have that dumb apex asus board that pushes insane amount of volatage through the cpu.

 

So basically undervolt a bunch at first

See what happens

Check mount

See what happens

Lower cpu clock speeds

See what happens

 

And if you actually wanna run full tilt you'll want a way better cooling solution even the best arctic liquid freezer II 420 cant do it

[leclod]

8 minutes ago, jaslion said:

And if you actually wanna run full tilt you'll want a way better cooling solution even the best arctic liquid freezer II 420 cant do it

He maxes the fans out at 75%, isn't this wrong ? measly 1450rpm, no wonder...

(and pump at 100% ?)(I'd do the contrary)

Put some P12max on that thing and let it fly !

Edited July 22, 2023 by leclod

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, leclod said:

He maxes the fans out at 75%, isn't this wrong ?

(and pump at 100% ?)(I'd do the contrary)

Put some P12max on that thing and let it fly !

Pump at 100% is normal tons of people do that and for a 13900ks you want max heat exchange. Fans at 75% is low you need 100.

 

The nzxt fans arent good but also not terrible. I mean that whole cooler gets its ass handed to it by a 100$ if not less aio. Still it has decent performance just not enough for a stupidly hot 13900ks that can push 300w+ heat easily

[leclod]

26 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Pump at 100% is normal tons of people do that and for a 13900ks you want max heat exchange.

All pump in the world is no use if there's no cooling behind (actually this is bad, pump adds heat).

And if there's cooling behind, then you only need pump at 100% if you need 100% (it gets actually quite complicated but I'd definitely look for the "point of diminishing return" if it was mine and I bet it'd be around 50%)

max heat exchange doesn't need pump at 100%, it just needs enough pump to get the heat away from cpu

But who am I to write, I've never even had AIO

 

(still, measly 1450rpm, no wonder...)

Edited July 22, 2023 by leclod

[Fasauceome]

43 minutes ago, TurboTrym said:

its hot af on top

it should be if the hot air is being exhausted out the top. But if it's exhausting air instead of intaking it, that means it would be sponging hot air off the graphics card too.

 

44 minutes ago, TurboTrym said:

Maybe radiator on the side with 3 fans and intake and 3 as exhoust would suit this 13900ks

What case are you using? If the side is intake, that would be a good idea to consider so that the radiator has fresh air.