GPU Temp Issues

[RosieDreams]

My Specs:

 

Optiplex 9020 MT

i7-4790

Zotac GTX 1070ti Mini

4x 4gb 1600MHz 

EVGA 750 GQ, 80+ GOLD 750W

 

Currently hot where we are, Ambient Temp is between 27-30℃ depending on the day.

 

So not long ago I upgraded from my 750ti to this 1070ti. When I first upgraded, I frequently had to leave my case open to play things like Horizon Zero Dawn as the GPU temps were hitting the throttle point (83℃) and opened it would drop to about 74. I not long after completing HZD tried my first undervolt with Afterburner as I had heard that can help with temps considerably. I landed on the attached settings and played The Last of Us PT 1 at mostly high settings. The screenshot shows the temps and usage that were consistent with the entire playthrough. It never went over 74℃ and mostly stayed around 68-69℃ with no crashing and roughly 40 fps low and max of 55 fps. So it seemed the undervolt worked perfectly as intended. Then I go to play Control Ultimate Edition and Stray. Stray hit 78℃ in certain spots using only about 3.5gb of VRAM and less than 1005 GPU usage, and Control constantly hits 78-80℃ using 5gb of VRAM and 99% GPU usage and it also consistently crashes in a specific Boss OoP fight unless I turn off the undervolt. I noticed a similar issue in Spiderman Remastered. It would hit about 70% GPU usage and 78℃ only in one area. I've since tried undervolting more down to 800 Mv and no matter it hits the same temps in Control. I know the optiplex has horrible airflow. But with the undervolt, new fans in the case, on the GPU, new thermal paste and an extra fan added to the front of the case I just don't get how games utilizing less of the GPU and VRAM could be causing more heat than one using 99-100% GPU and 7.5gb of the 8gb VRAM. Is there something I'm missing? Is there something else that can be done? I'm worried that this high temp is gonna damage my PC and shorten the lifespan.

 

 

 

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, RosieDreams said:

My Specs:

 

Optiplex 9020 MT

i7-4790

Zotac GTX 1070ti Mini

4x 4gb 1600MHz 

EVGA 750 GQ, 80+ GOLD 750W

 

So not long ago I upgraded from my 740ti to this 1070ti. When I first upgraded, I frequently had to leave my case open to play things like Horizon Zero Dawn as the GPU temps were hitting the throttle point (83℃) and opened it would drop to about 74. I not long after completing HZD tried my first undervolt with Afterburner as I had heard that can help with temps considerably. I landed on the attached settings and played The Last of Us PT 1 at mostly high settings. The screenshot shows the temps and usage that were consistent with the entire playthrough. It never went over 74℃ and mostly stayed around 68-69℃ with no crashing and roughly 40 fps low and max of 55 fps. So it seemed the undervolt worked perfectly as intended. Then I go to play Control Ultimate Edition and Stray. Stray hit 78℃ in certain spots using only about 3.5gb of VRAM and less than 1005 GPU usage, and Control constantly hits 78-80℃ using 5gb of VRAM and 99% GPU usage and it also consistently crashes in a specific Boss OoP fight unless I turn off the undervolt. I noticed a similar issue in Spiderman Remastered. It would hit about 70% GPU usage and 78℃ only in one area. I've since tried undervolting more down to 800 Mv and no matter it hits the same temps in Control. I know the optiplex has horrible airflow. But with the undervolt, new fans in the case, on the GPU, new thermal paste and an extra fan added to the front of the case I just don't get how games utilizing less of the GPU and VRAM could be causing more heat than one using 99-100% GPU and 7.5gb of the 8gb VRAM. Is there something I'm missing? Is there something else that can be done? I'm worried that this high temp is gonna damage my PC and shorten the lifespan.

 

 

 

80°C is high, but it's well within the safe temperature range for a 1070ti, nothing to be concerned about, it will not affect the lifespan of your card in any meaningful way.  Some games will use more Vram than others, some games will target the core clock or GPU usage differently, thats just how different games work.
You got nothing to worry about here, all within spec   Its warm yes, but not dangerous at all for the card.

[Dukesilver27-]

It's normal, frankly speaking I don't understand it either, however, I noticed this a long time ago.

Some games do use more power even at the same GPU usage %.

For example Witcher 3 Next gen uses about 270W on my 6800 XT, CP2077 also around that, but other AAA games only around 240W-250W, settings are in high-ultra and with FSR2.

 

As for the temps, yours are fine, yes they are hot if you see the numbers, but it is normal, especially since your 1070TI is a mini (1 fan only).

 

[Mark Kaine]

it's a used card? you probably have to replace the thermal paste... look up videos on how to, its not super easy but also not super hard...

and keep your undervolt never can hurt as long its stable.

 

32 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

nothing to be concerned about, it will not affect the lifespan of your card in any meaningful way.

it'll dry out the paste faster, which is probably already old by this point. 

 

also its "safe" temp but not ideal 

 

47c-59c playing OW max settings 165fps 1440p crew checking in (and i wish it would be a bit cooler tbth)

 

 

 

ps: yeah, my 1070 was also a bit hot, but my 1050ti 1060 and 3070 aren't,  but it was a EVGA so trash cooling and expected (lesson learned,  never again,  also rip ig)

[RosieDreams]

4 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

it's a used card? you probably have to replace the thermal paste... look up videos on how to, its not super easy but also not super hard...

and keep your undervolt never can hurt as long its stable.

 

it'll dry out the paste faster, which is probably already old by this point. 

 

also its "safe" temp but not ideal 

 

47c-59c playing OW max settings 165fps 1440p crew checking in (and i wish it would be a bit cooler tbth)

These temps are actually with new fans and new thermal paste believe it or not. The old paste was indeed very dried and the new paste helped until I got to Control sadly. I know the temps are technically in spec as others are saying, but I've heard that can really shorten the GPU's lifespan and it's already an older used GPU. Leaving the case open makes mea really nervous as I'm clumsy, but it does drop the temps from 78℃ to about 73℃. I'm going to get a new case eventually to transplant this optiplex into (one with better airflow and that I can use to build my next PC in) but I won't have the money for that for quite awhile. So I need to drop these temps if I can.

[Mark Kaine]

6 minutes ago, RosieDreams said:

These temps are actually with new fans and new thermal paste believe it or not. The old paste was indeed very dried and the new paste helped until I got to Control sadly. I know the temps are technically in spec as others are saying, but I've heard that can really shorten the GPU's lifespan and it's already an older used GPU. Leaving the case open makes mea really nervous as I'm clumsy, but it does drop the temps from 78℃ to about 73℃. I'm going to get a new case eventually to transplant this optiplex into (one with better airflow and that I can use to build my next PC in) but I won't have the money for that for quite awhile. So I need to drop these temps if I can.

well i see thats the other thing... if opening the case improves it that means the case has bad airflow,  maybe you could install a couple of additional fans? (probably difficult with your case but other than that, idk) 

[Mark Kaine]

alr i looked up the case, as expected a small hotbox, maybe you could replace a side panel with a DIY mesh panel... would help keeping dust out but allow better cooling 

 

 

its a nice case imo, but these temps aren't surprising with this kind of prebuilt

[Mark Kaine]

Also sorry double post but in this situation im with @Dukesilver27- as long temps are under 83c... its not really an issue, since the paste is new, it should last for a long time before you need to replace it again (probably around 3 years minimum)

[RosieDreams]

34 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

It's normal, frankly speaking I don't understand it either, however, I noticed this a long time ago.

Some games do use more power even at the same GPU usage %.

For example Witcher 3 Next gen uses about 270W on my 6800 XT, CP2077 also around that, but other AAA games only around 240W-250W, settings are in high-ultra and with FSR2.

 

As for the temps, yours are fine, yes they are hot if you see the numbers, but it is normal, especially since your 1070TI is a mini (1 fan only).

 

Believe it or not this mini is a two fan and is hitting these temps. And the fans are brand new! I've seen from others that these 1070 minis from Zotac do run hot, so if the temps won't be a detriment to the card I guess I can just go with it. Just makes me nervous. It's really weird how the games programmed utilization can make the temps vary so much.

[RosieDreams]

1 hour ago, Hinjima said:

80°C is high, but it's well within the safe temperature range for a 1070ti, nothing to be concerned about, it will not affect the lifespan of your card in any meaningful way.  Some games will use more Vram than others, some games will target the core clock or GPU usage differently, thats just how different games work.
You got nothing to worry about here, all within spec   Its warm yes, but not dangerous at all for the card.

It's definitely a relief to hear that the temps won't be in a damaging range, I have seen others mention that the 1070's run hot, especially the mini's. Just worried me, especially coming from the 750ti that was idle at 35-40℃ and maxing out at 64℃! But then again, that's a much weaker card using a LOT less power.

[Hinjima]

7 hours ago, RosieDreams said:

It's definitely a relief to hear that the temps won't be in a damaging range, I have seen others mention that the 1070's run hot, especially the mini's. Just worried me, especially coming from the 750ti that was idle at 35-40℃ and maxing out at 64℃! But then again, that's a much weaker card using a LOT less power.

Totally understandable, 80c can seem extreme for many but its not actually dangerous at all.
The mini will also run hotter as it obviously has a way smaller cooler / heatsink to dissipate heat.  My 980ti would hit 80c constantly.
You have nothing to worry about here