Trying to put up a list for a future system for my father

[venomtail]

55 minutes ago, Laynord said:

Would have prefered a discrete gpu cause i was planning on getting him running on dual monitor (1080p 60)

 

Intergraded IGPU can run as many monitors as it has ports on the motherboard. Most office ones come with at least 2 ports, so you can do 2 monitors. If you're lucky 3.

[venomtail]

If you are adamant about building your own PC and don't want to buy a refurbished one, something like this will be enough for him to browse the web. Modern HDMI and Displayport ports so you don't need VGA adapters...:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€95.23 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  (€135.51 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€47.99 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Chieftec BT-02B-U3-250VS (230V) Mini ITX Tower Case w/250 W Power Supply  (€92.88 @ Alternate) 
Total: €417.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-06 15:46 CEST+0200

 

You can probs save even more by going with an Athlon and just 8GB of RAM

[Laynord]

9 minutes ago, venomtail said:

If you are adamant about building your own PC and don't want to buy a refurbished one, something like this will be enough for him to browse the web. Modern HDMI and Displayport ports so you don't need VGA adapters...:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€95.23 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  (€135.51 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€47.99 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Chieftec BT-02B-U3-250VS (230V) Mini ITX Tower Case w/250 W Power Supply  (€92.88 @ Alternate) 
Total: €417.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-06 15:46 CEST+0200

 

You can probs save even more by going with an Athlon and just 8GB of RAM

his current laptop is on 8 g of ram and is mostly always full
And I dont want to cheap out just because I can
if one day he wants to play stuff / do more I want him to be able to 

So I think I'll go for https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/pvGGW4 and a small GPU anyway
thanks for all the help anyway
 

[PDifolco]

16 minutes ago, Laynord said:

btw knowing that the cheapest non trash vga / other video adapter is 20 € I think something like this: https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/2354328369.htm
would not be a stretch to buy
this is what I ended up with after some tweaks : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZTxGW4

 

Well you don't really need a GPU, but indeed it's cheap and will be fine..

The case tho... It's big and ugly imo, the one I suggested was small and more "classic", your choice tho

 

[Laynord]

5 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Well you don't really need a GPU, but indeed it's cheap and will be fine..

The case tho... It's big and ugly imo, the one I suggested was small and more "classic", your choice tho

 

for the case i will see when i buy I am not fixed yet and will mostly not matter as long as everything fits and airflow is not sheit
as it will be under the desk behind a wood plank ( still air access ) just not visual

[venomtail]

22 minutes ago, Laynord said:

his current laptop is on 8 g of ram and is mostly always full
And I dont want to cheap out just because I can
if one day he wants to play stuff / do more I want him to be able to 

So I think I'll go for https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/pvGGW4 and a small GPU anyway
thanks for all the help anyway
 

So he wants to play games later on? Maybe you want to use the computer yourself? Then begin with that otherwise we're all here thinking the only thing he'll do for the next 10 years is browse the web.

 

Hear me out. Gamble configuration here. With this he can browse the web. When the time comes and you have more money to spare in a year or two, upgrade the CPU and GPU to something like a 12400f and RX7600 (200eur + 300eur) and you'll be set to play the latest AAA games. When that gets too old in how many years, maybe you'll have an upgrade path to an i9 and 7900XT? In the meanwhile, this will be overkill for browsing the web:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Pentium Gold G7400 3.7 GHz Dual-Core Processor  (€106.03 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€169.88 @ Alternate) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€46.99 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€55.94 @ TopAchat) 
Case: Zalman S3 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€51.01 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600 BR 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€57.00 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €486.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-06 16:17 CEST+0200

[Laynord]

4 hours ago, venomtail said:

So he wants to play games later on? Maybe you want to use the computer yourself? Then begin with that otherwise we're all here thinking the only thing he'll do for the next 10 years is browse the web.

 

Hear me out. Gamble configuration here. With this he can browse the web. When the time comes and you have more money to spare in a year or two, upgrade the CPU and GPU to something like a 12400f and RX7600 (200eur + 300eur) and you'll be set to play the latest AAA games. When that gets too old in how many years, maybe you'll have an upgrade path to an i9 and 7900XT? In the meanwhile, this will be overkill for browsing the web:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Pentium Gold G7400 3.7 GHz Dual-Core Processor  (€106.03 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€169.88 @ Alternate) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€46.99 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€55.94 @ TopAchat) 
Case: Zalman S3 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€51.01 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600 BR 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€57.00 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €486.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-06 16:17 CEST+0200

I have my own computer and a better one at that ( furthermore I don't see him often and live ~500 km from him ) so no I don't want to use his just for him to be able to do whatever he wants with it if at some point he wants to play some games so be it I have a budget for it now and am not sure I will later so I wont necesserally be able to put 500 bucks more into it 
If I have money to put in it down the line I'll do it well and not refurbish the same one he will be using 
Sry but I don't want him to have a worse experience just for predictions on down the line future