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Budget (including currency): 500 € or less

Country: France

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: nothing much just internet browsing images and stuff

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Cpu 2X 25,00 € 50,00 €  E5-2683V3

https://tinyurl.com/anpp22hb
 

Ram 1x 30,00 € 30,00 € 4x8 2400

 

https://tinyurl.com/2av5uwax
 

MB 1x 130,00 € 130,00 € X99 CPU Motherboard Dual Xeon LGA 2011

https://tinyurl.com/34zb8m3j
 

GPU 1x 90,00 € 90,00 € RX 580

 

https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/2357144872.htm
 

Case + PSU 1x 150,00 € 150,00 €

 

https://tinyurl.com/yc3eafh2

 

 

For storage will look at nvme 1to pcie3 sticks for ~ 50 € when buying like : https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/2360017225.htm
with 1 / 2 already existing 3.5" data drive

 

 

I am not fixed on anything and would just want to know if you think it would be at all a good idea/deal in terms of reliability , performance for my bucks and how long it will last
I have searched for cheaper cases for eatx motherboards but couldn't find much
Just looking for any feedback on this 

Would it be at all good or would it be just straight up better to go for a new like this build : ( same GPU still tho ) https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/zGdXgb

Thanks anyway for your answers
Regards
Laynord

 

 

 

Pourquoi acheter ces vieux machins nazes ?

Prends des composants performants récents (et neufs) plutôt !

Pas besoin de dGPU si pas de gaming, l'iGPU est même sufisante pour des petits jeux en 720p :

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€201.68 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€95.90 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€46.47 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€30.17 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€64.00 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €484.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-06 14:39 CEST+0200

 

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Budget (including currency): 500 € or less

Country: France

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: nothing much just internet browsing images and stuff

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Cpu 2X 25,00 € 50,00 €  E5-2683V3

https://tinyurl.com/anpp22hb
 

Ram 1x 30,00 € 30,00 € 4x8 2400

 

https://tinyurl.com/2av5uwax
 

MB 1x 130,00 € 130,00 € X99 CPU Motherboard Dual Xeon LGA 2011

https://tinyurl.com/34zb8m3j
 

GPU 1x 90,00 € 90,00 € RX 580

 

https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/2357144872.htm
 

Case + PSU 1x 150,00 € 150,00 €

 

https://tinyurl.com/yc3eafh2

 

 

For storage will look at nvme 1to pcie3 sticks for ~ 50 € when buying like : https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/2360017225.htm
with 1 / 2 already existing 3.5" data drive

 

 

I am not fixed on anything and would just want to know if you think it would be at all a good idea/deal in terms of reliability , performance for my bucks and how long it will last
I have searched for cheaper cases for eatx motherboards but couldn't find much
Just looking for any feedback on this 

Would it be at all good or would it be just straight up better to go for a new like this build : ( same GPU still tho ) https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/zGdXgb

Thanks anyway for your answers
Regards
Laynord

 

 

 

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I wouldn't go X99, especially on a system you expect to last for a few years as a regular desktop. Windows 10 falls out of support in October 2025, and Windows 11 won't run on anything older than 8th gen without workarounds. There's also no advantage to running dual CPUs or an older dedicated GPU for his use case.

 

Just get an office PC or a modern desktop when the time comes.

I sold my soul for ProSupport.

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5 minutes ago, Laynord said:

just internet browsing

Then why the need to go with peak 2018 GPU Shortage 500$ build? Any windows i5-1135G7 laptop with 16GB of RAM on clearance should cover you well for FAR LESS power on idle and light load.

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Just now, SorryClaire said:

Then why the need to go with peak 2018 GPU Shortage 500$ build? Any windows i5-1135G7 laptop with 16GB of RAM on clearance should cover you well for FAR LESS power on idle and light load.

he already has a laptop but uses it for work and wants a desktop for home use

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2 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

I wouldn't go X99, especially on a system you expect to last for a few years as a regular desktop. Windows 10 falls out of support in October 2025, and Windows 11 won't run on anything older than 8th gen without workarounds. There's also no advantage to running dual CPUs or an older dedicated GPU for his use case.

 

Just get an office PC or a modern desktop when the time comes.

Could you give exemples of office pc that would be reliable ?

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Just now, Laynord said:

he already has a laptop but uses it for work and wants a desktop for home use

At 500 Euros when they already have a compute device, consider purchasing peripherals and a dock first, and then get proper desktop later on or when the compute power of the laptop wont suffice. Whats their laptop model?

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1 minute ago, SorryClaire said:

At 500 Euros when they already have a compute device, consider purchasing peripherals and a dock first, and then get proper desktop later on or when the compute power of the laptop wont suffice. Whats their laptop model?

Dont remember the precise model but an i3 11th gen 8 g of ram currently but will to 16 upgrade when I got to him
No discrete GPU a 1600*900 screen and 500G pcie3 ssd

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5 minutes ago, Laynord said:

Could you give exemples of office pc that would be reliable ?

A refurbished Optiplex, ProDesk, or ThinkStation would all be fine. Just make sure it's fairly recent.

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A refurbished Optiplex, ProDesk, or ThinkStation would all be fine. Just make sure it's fairly recent.

To add: Try to find things from 9th gen to 11th gen for Intel, or Ryzen 3000 series minimum for AMD side. Dont do any less because most of the time they wont have TPM 2.0 built in which means you have to get your own module which are mostly for enterprise (read: could get expensive if you dont know what youre doing), or do some registry work around that will break at some point.

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10 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

A refurbished Optiplex, ProDesk, or ThinkStation would all be fine. Just make sure it's fairly recent.

Any idea where to search i'm trying to look for it on like ebay but I cant stand it anymore rn the search options are just unbearable to me

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Just now, Laynord said:

Any idea where to search i'm trying to look for it on like ebay but I cant stand it anymore rn the search options are just unbearable to me

https://picclick.com/ this should make it easier

you dont need an aio for anything but i9 cpus or heavy oc jobs just get an nh-d15 or peerless assassin

MARK THE SOLUTION AS SOLUTION

 

 

i am 14 so i may be wrong sometimes

 

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14 minutes ago, spaghet rat said:

https://picclick.com/ this should make it easier

Sry but maybe i do it wrong but i cant find a single thing under 500 € with anything more than a 9th gen i5 or  i7
with no GPU or something like a 1650 and a 2nd gen lower cpu
and if 10-11th gen its the micro ones bulllshit with no GPU or space to add one
the only good one doesn't ship to france

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14 minutes ago, Laynord said:

Any idea where to search i'm trying to look for it on like ebay but I cant stand it anymore rn the search options are just unbearable to me

Look for an Optiplex 7060 with an i7.

  

3 minutes ago, Laynord said:

Sry but maybe i do it wrong but i cant find a single thing under 500 € with anything more than a 9th gen i5 or  i7
with no GPU or something like a 1650 and a 2nd gen lower cpu

If he's just browsing the web, he doesn't need a dedicated GPU.

 

I sold my soul for ProSupport.

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38 minutes ago, Laynord said:

Budget (including currency): 500 € or less

Country: France

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: nothing much just internet browsing images and stuff

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Cpu 2X 25,00 € 50,00 €  E5-2683V3

https://tinyurl.com/anpp22hb
 

Ram 1x 30,00 € 30,00 € 4x8 2400

 

https://tinyurl.com/2av5uwax
 

MB 1x 130,00 € 130,00 € X99 CPU Motherboard Dual Xeon LGA 2011

https://tinyurl.com/34zb8m3j
 

GPU 1x 90,00 € 90,00 € RX 580

 

https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/2357144872.htm
 

Case + PSU 1x 150,00 € 150,00 €

 

https://tinyurl.com/yc3eafh2

 

 

For storage will look at nvme 1to pcie3 sticks for ~ 50 € when buying like : https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/2360017225.htm
with 1 / 2 already existing 3.5" data drive

 

 

I am not fixed on anything and would just want to know if you think it would be at all a good idea/deal in terms of reliability , performance for my bucks and how long it will last
I have searched for cheaper cases for eatx motherboards but couldn't find much
Just looking for any feedback on this 

Would it be at all good or would it be just straight up better to go for a new like this build : ( same GPU still tho ) https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/zGdXgb

Thanks anyway for your answers
Regards
Laynord

 

 

 

Pourquoi acheter ces vieux machins nazes ?

Prends des composants performants récents (et neufs) plutôt !

Pas besoin de dGPU si pas de gaming, l'iGPU est même sufisante pour des petits jeux en 720p :

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€201.68 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€95.90 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€46.47 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€30.17 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€64.00 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €484.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-06 14:39 CEST+0200

 

System : AMD R9 5900X / Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO/ 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600CL18 / ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Eisbaer 280mm AIO (with 2xArctic P14 fans) / 2TB Crucial T500  NVme + 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD drives/ Corsair RM850x PSU/  Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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Would have prefered a discrete gpu cause i was planning on getting him running on dual monitor (1080p 60)

 

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9 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Pourquoi acheter ces vieux machins nazes ?

Prends des composants performants récents (et neufs) plutôt !

Pas besoin de dGPU si pas de gaming, l'iGPU est même sufisante pour des petits jeux en 720p :

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€201.68 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€95.90 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€46.47 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€30.17 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€64.00 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €484.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-06 14:39 CEST+0200

 

Don't forget to add the price of a legitimate Windows license.

I sold my soul for ProSupport.

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Just now, Needfuldoer said:

Don't forget to add the price of a legitimate Windows license.

oem keys are cheaper?

you dont need an aio for anything but i9 cpus or heavy oc jobs just get an nh-d15 or peerless assassin

MARK THE SOLUTION AS SOLUTION

 

 

i am 14 so i may be wrong sometimes

 

@Bob__ is a w

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, spaghet rat said:

oem keys are cheaper?

Marginally cheaper than retail, yes.

 

The extremely cheap keys are gray market, your mileage may vary there.

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1 minute ago, Needfuldoer said:

Don't forget to add the price of a legitimate Windows license.

Already have windows key.
Hence why i didnt spec it in the first list

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21 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Pourquoi acheter ces vieux machins nazes ?

Prends des composants performants récents (et neufs) plutôt !

Pas besoin de dGPU si pas de gaming, l'iGPU est même sufisante pour des petits jeux en 720p :

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€201.68 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€95.90 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€46.47 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€30.17 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€64.00 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €484.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-06 14:39 CEST+0200

 

Btw other question pcpartpicker warns for bios compat i don't have another CPU to update it with
so maybe a 4700G and a better ram / PSU / a Hdd as a supplement

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18 minutes ago, Laynord said:

Btw other question pcpartpicker warns for bios compat i don't have another CPU to update it with
so maybe a 4700G and a better ram / PSU / a Hdd as a supplement

5700G is 2 years old, boards are all updated now

Why a HDD ??

 

41 minutes ago, Laynord said:

Would have prefered a discrete gpu cause i was planning on getting him running on dual monitor (1080p 60)

 

No need unless it's for gaming, just get a board that  has HDMI and DP ports

System : AMD R9 5900X / Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO/ 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600CL18 / ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Eisbaer 280mm AIO (with 2xArctic P14 fans) / 2TB Crucial T500  NVme + 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD drives/ Corsair RM850x PSU/  Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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Just now, PDifolco said:

4700G is 2 years old, boards are all updated now

you mean 5700G or what ?
i dont understand your answer

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2 minutes ago, Laynord said:

you mean 5700G or what ?
i dont understand your answer

Meant 5700G, edited the answer 2 minutes late 😜 

System : AMD R9 5900X / Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO/ 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600CL18 / ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Eisbaer 280mm AIO (with 2xArctic P14 fans) / 2TB Crucial T500  NVme + 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD drives/ Corsair RM850x PSU/  Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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7 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

5700G is 2 years old, boards are all updated now

Why a HDD ??

 

No need unless it's for gaming, just get a board that  has HDMI and DP ports

dunno for the hdd for more space on the cheap but forgot nvme are dirt cheap now

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14 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Meant 5700G, edited the answer 2 minutes late 😜 

btw knowing that the cheapest non trash vga / other video adapter is 20 € I think something like this: https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/2354328369.htm
would not be a stretch to buy
this is what I ended up with after some tweaks : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZTxGW4

 

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