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My computer keeps crashing while in a gaming sesh, when playing Overwatch or Rainbow 6 mainly. I have no idea how to figure out why it is crashing. I have set up my fans on my GPU/CPU to pretty much max out when gaming as to try to keep the heat down, but I don't even know if that is the problem. I may need to upgrade my Power supply, but again i don't know if that is the problem

 

System Specs:

i7 9700K

EVGA RTX 3080

Gigabyte Z390

32GB Corsair DDR4

Thermaltake 650 W 80+ Gold

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5 minutes ago, Jacobsmelcer said:

Hello,

 

My computer keeps crashing while in a gaming sesh, when playing Overwatch or Rainbow 6 mainly. I have no idea how to figure out why it is crashing. I have set up my fans on my GPU/CPU to pretty much max out when gaming as to try to keep the heat down, but I don't even know if that is the problem. I may need to upgrade my Power supply, but again i don't know if that is the problem

 

System Specs:

i7 9700K

EVGA RTX 3080

Gigabyte Z390

32GB Corsair DDR4

Thermaltake 650 W 80+ Gold

Here you go:

 

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37 minutes ago, Jacobsmelcer said:

Not at all helpful, thanks though

Well, you're expecting people to have a working crystal ball to see what's bothering you.

The thread gave you questions and the tools to find the answers, and those answers would lead to the diagnosis, can't be easier.

But, if you don't want your issues resolved, why ask?

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 32+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - Madlions MAD 68HE Pro - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Tripowin Vivace - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Huawei OptiXstar EG8145X6-10 - 1000/500 Mbps fiber optic Internet access
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 13 16GB/512GB - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color - Miyoo A30 Spruce
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1 hour ago, Jacobsmelcer said:

Hello,

 

My computer keeps crashing while in a gaming sesh, when playing Overwatch or Rainbow 6 mainly. I have no idea how to figure out why it is crashing. I have set up my fans on my GPU/CPU to pretty much max out when gaming as to try to keep the heat down, but I don't even know if that is the problem. I may need to upgrade my Power supply, but again i don't know if that is the problem

 

System Specs:

i7 9700K

EVGA RTX 3080

Gigabyte Z390

32GB Corsair DDR4

Thermaltake 650 W 80+ Gold

I see a 650 watt power supply an 3080.  Have you checked what voltages your video card and processor are drawing?  Intel and Nvidia software should let you know how much voltage you are using, because if that power supply is a bit older it may no longer be putting out 650 watts.

 

I just have so many dell computer that will not boot or lock up, because their 300 watt power supply is down to like 270.

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1 hour ago, DarkWaterSong said:

I see a 650 watt power supply an 3080.  Have you checked what voltages your video card and processor are drawing?  Intel and Nvidia software should let you know how much voltage you are using, because if that power supply is a bit older it may no longer be putting out 650 watts.

 

I just have so many dell computer that will not boot or lock up, because their 300 watt power supply is down to like 270.

Is there a way to find out if the power draw is what is causing the crash? When I look in the Windows event viewer, I don’t see anything other then Event 41, so I can’t tell if I’m drawing too much 

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4 hours ago, DarkWaterSong said:

I see a 650 watt power supply an 3080.  Have you checked what voltages your video card and processor are drawing?  Intel and Nvidia software should let you know how much voltage you are using, because if that power supply is a bit older it may no longer be putting out 650 watts.

 

I just have so many dell computer that will not boot or lock up, because their 300 watt power supply is down to like 270.

While in Overwatch GPU peaked at 338W and CPU peaked at 79W.

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8 hours ago, Jacobsmelcer said:

Not at all helpful, thanks though

its ur psu, simply.  get a corsair rmx 850w.

 

and in the unlikely case u still have issues, u still had to upgrade the psu because its simply too weak for a 3080

 

 

4 hours ago, Jacobsmelcer said:

While in Overwatch GPU peaked at 338W and CPU peaked at 79W.

k. and how u measure this?

 

maybe do some research or listen to the people u ask for help. your psu is much too weak. (ie transient power spikes, which, with all due respect, 

u can't  measure surely) 

 

ps: also jfyi, the cpu will get u by, especially for ow as that runs on a tomato,  but its less than ideal, intel 9th gen just didn't age well, but as said, jfyi, this isnt your main problem. 

 

tldr: weak psu > shut down during gaming > bad transient power spike handling > get an adequate psu to rectify this (over 2 year old and well known) issue 

The direction tells you... the direction

-Scott Manley, 2021

 

 

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I just know NVIDIA was recommending a 750 watt power supply for a 3080.  Also the only way to know what your power supply is putting out is have a smart one with a USB cable and monitoring software or a power supply tester:

https://www.amazon.com/Computer-PC-Tester-Connectors-Enclosure/dp/B076CLNPPK

(not a specific recommendation to buy, just a link to explain what I am talking about)

 

Testing the power supply lets you know how much of your 650 you have left, and lets say its down to 600 then at heavy load fans, ram, drives, processors, video cards, usb devices, and everything else plugged into your power supply may overwhelm what it can put out...and your computer crashes.

 

Edit: also this is pretty good estimator on what you need for a system:

https://seasonic.com/wattage-calculator#

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22 hours ago, DarkWaterSong said:

I see a 650 watt power supply an 3080.  Have you checked what voltages your video card and processor are drawing?  Intel and Nvidia software should let you know how much voltage you are using, because if that power supply is a bit older it may no longer be putting out 650 watts.

 

I just have so many dell computer that will not boot or lock up, because their 300 watt power supply is down to like 270.

I used OCCT to figure out power draw of CPU and GPU, not sure if it’s 100% accurate. When I got the 3080, at the time it said a 650 watt was minimum, but I knew I may need to upgrade. The PSU is about 3 years old, so it may not be running 100% anymore. I bought a NZXT 850 watt and replaced it. I will continue to monitor and follow up if I am still experiencing issues. 

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2 hours ago, Jacobsmelcer said:

 

I used OCCT to figure out power draw of CPU and GPU, not sure if it’s 100% accurate. When I got the 3080, at the time it said a 650 watt was minimum, but I knew I may need to upgrade. The PSU is about 3 years old, so it may not be running 100% anymore. I bought a NZXT 850 watt and replaced it. I will continue to monitor and follow up if I am still experiencing issues. 

Well, that *should* fix it, but for a better explanation,  regardless of psu wattage,  its very hard to measure transient power spikes, and what happens is, there's a very high demand for maybe a millisecond and even *if* the power supply could handle it, it will still do an emergency shut down, because it's build like this for safety reasons... ie *not all psus handle transient power spikes in the same way because before rtx 3000 series this wasn't really a big problem*

 

 

That said your old psu was still too weak, 750w *minimum*, 850 is more on the safe side and better.  good luck with the new one.

The direction tells you... the direction

-Scott Manley, 2021

 

 

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