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I was thinking about upgrading to a 4090 but I am 2nd guessing myself

Pirito

I have a 7700x, 32gb of ram, 3060, RM850x, x670e

and wanted to upgrade to a 4090 to future proof but I’m hearing 850 watts is good but also hearing I need a better psu and same with the cpu that I need a upgrade or I’ll bottleneck, so should I just upgrade to a 3080 ti, i am planning to play high fps/low quality  on games like Fortnite, Minecraft, warzone, siege but high graphics on story games like Jedi survivor, god of war, hogwarts legacy, what should I do????

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1 minute ago, Pirito said:

I have a 7700x, 32gb of ram, 3060, RM850x, x670e

and wanted to upgrade to a 4090 to future proof but I’m hearing 850 watts is good but also hearing I need a better psu and same with the cpu that I need a upgrade or I’ll bottleneck, so should I just upgrade to a 3080 ti, i am planning to play high fps/low quality  on games like Fortnite, Minecraft, warzone, siege but high graphics on story games like Jedi survivor, god of war, hogwarts legacy, what should I do????

6950xt gets about the same fps as a 4090 in warzone:

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Pirito said:

wanted to upgrade to a 4090

The 4090 is kinda overkill currently unless you want to do high FPS 4k. So if you just have a lot of money and want to just have the best that exists, you can get it. Otherwise there are cheaper alternatives, that will be able to do pretty much the same thing, just not as fast.

 

So ask yourself first why you are upgrading in the first place. Is there anything that you currently want to play, that are you just not capable of with your current setup? Or is the experience you are currently having being degrade by the performance (lots of stutters, very poor quality, etc).

 

Is it worth $1600 or however much a 4090 costs, to have a better experience? Or are you just excited about upgrading? Is that excitement worth that money? And have you considered the higher electricity bill, warmer room you'll have?
If you answer all of those questions with yes, sure go for it.

 

(If you are also using the card to make money, that all changes of course)

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27 minutes ago, Pirito said:

I have a 7700x, 32gb of ram, 3060, RM850x, x670e

and wanted to upgrade to a 4090 to future proof but I’m hearing 850 watts is good but also hearing I need a better psu and same with the cpu that I need a upgrade or I’ll bottleneck, so should I just upgrade to a 3080 ti, i am planning to play high fps/low quality  on games like Fortnite, Minecraft, warzone, siege but high graphics on story games like Jedi survivor, god of war, hogwarts legacy, what should I do????

For most of those I would go for a 7900 xtx, then you can keep your 850 watt psu and also get REALLY high fps in warzone and very good fps in everything else. To me the 7900 xtx is a no brainer

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Dont listen to people in forums about your buying decisions.
If you are a competitive gamer you want Reflex, there is no argument going AMD.

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37 minutes ago, Pirito said:

I have a 7700x, 32gb of ram, 3060, RM850x, x670e

and wanted to upgrade to a 4090 to future proof but I’m hearing 850 watts is good but also hearing I need a better psu and same with the cpu that I need a upgrade or I’ll bottleneck, so should I just upgrade to a 3080 ti, i am planning to play high fps/low quality  on games like Fortnite, Minecraft, warzone, siege but high graphics on story games like Jedi survivor, god of war, hogwarts legacy, what should I do????

Okay, a 7700x will not bottleneck a 4090 in any of those titles. However, you would need to upgrade the PSU if you go 4090.

However, as for decided what you really need, you need to tell us the resoultion and fps of your monitor, cause there would be little point upgrading past your 3060 if all you have is a 1080p60fps monitor.

 

Finally, you should consider if the performance your getting is good enough. A new graphics card is gonna cost you alot of money. Is the difference really going to be worth it. Please let us know what performance your getting currently (and what sort of performance your looking for).

 

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1 hour ago, DarkSmith2 said:

Dont listen to people in forums about your buying decisions.
If you are a competitive gamer you want Reflex, there is no argument going AMD.

thing is most people are not competative gamers..... if the op is he should know that and know that he wants reflex and not consider it. but for your average jo you dont need it..

 

what resaloution are  you playing at? is the performance you are getting at the moment good enough?

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1 hour ago, DarkSmith2 said:

Dont listen to people in forums about your buying decisions.
If you are a competitive gamer you want Reflex, there is no argument going AMD.

im a competitive gamer and use AMD

anti-lag is the way to go boys

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37 minutes ago, Blqckqut said:

im a competitive gamer and use AMD

anti-lag is the way to go boys

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Just gonna drop this here. NULL and Reflex works in game that supports it but its a massive CPU hog.

 

But should you go for it? I dont know, do you really believe that chasing niche feature is better than getting raw better frametime which always lead to better latency with no trickery involved? Thats the reason i didnt hop to a used 3070 or new 3060Ti for my build.

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1 minute ago, SorryClaire said:

Just gonna drop this here. NULL and Reflex works in game that supports it but its a massive CPU hog.

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wth is NULL?

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Just now, Blqckqut said:

wth is NULL?

Nvidia Ultra Low Latency mode, released with Reflex. It was meant to be a direct competition to the Radeon Anti Lag that was released nearly the same time, a universal way to decrease latency while keeping framerates up. But of course this is at the cost of more load to the GPU and CPU thanks to the overhead.

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2 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Nvidia Ultra Low Latency mode, released with Reflex. It was meant to be a direct competition to the Radeon Anti Lag that was released nearly the same time, a universal way to decrease latency while keeping framerates up. But of course this is at the cost of more load to the GPU and CPU thanks to the overhead.

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On 5/22/2023 at 10:58 AM, DarkSmith2 said:

Dont listen to people in forums about your buying decisions.
If you are a competitive gamer you want Reflex, there is no argument going AMD.

What is reflex? And why does it help with competitive games? 

 

I was going to buy a 7900 XTX but I mainly play Counter-Strike, would the 4080 be a better option?

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3 hours ago, GTC said:

What is reflex? And why does it help with competitive games? 

 

I was going to buy a 7900 XTX but I mainly play Counter-Strike, would the 4080 be a better option?

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/reflex-low-latency-platform/
counter-strike 2 will have reflex support. But unless we get much faster CPUs, to alleviate the bottleneck, i guess you shouldnt worry to much for this title.
Especially not when you play on a really low resolution below 1080p.

the good thing about reflex is that you dont have to worry about playing on low settings or low resolutions just for lower inputlag. In alot of titles resolution/higher settings do alot for visibility.

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