FPS Drops with 4090

[Slade the Blade]

Hello all, I am having some issues when playing cyber punk at 1440p. All other games seem to be running fine.

I get FPS drops almost every 5 seconds it seems. I have double checked all hardware on my system.

I tried a new Motherboard, Ram, Power Supply. All have made no changes on the performance.

I have attached a screenshot of the benchmark for reference.

 

If anyone could give me some tips I would appreciate it.

(Driver updates, Windows Updates, Part Swaps, reinstalling the game and verifying integrity, and fresh OS installs are all the things I've tried so far.)

 

 

I think this computer hates me lol

 

 

Ray Tracing: Ultra

 

Ray Tracing: Medium

[JLssg4]

Have you played around with G-sync/freesync between Nvidia global settings and your monitor?  I guess I can't be sure something wonky there could cause this behavior, but it seems to be one component/factor unexplored?

[Montana One-Six]

I played CP2077 a few months ago to see if it got any better since launch, which sadly it didn't really.

Anyway I had frame drops here and there not as crazy as in your case. Playing at 4k with DLSS quality (high to max settings) my game runs at 50-60FPS. But I had some strange frame drops down to 30fps (very rarely even lower) here and there. So I investigated that and found nvidia reflex to be the cause. With it disabled frame drops are less frequent and not as carzy (more to the 40-45 fps range).

[Mark Kaine]

 

 

Turn off sweat tracing ...

[Slade the Blade]

I've been looking at benchmarks and it seems to be cutting the power.
Anyone know why it would be doing that? I have tested another PSU and similar issues happened.

I also think it could be the board maybe not receiving the power properly.
I ran Elden Ring, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Cyber Punk and all seem to have FPS freezes every like 5 seconds!

 

If someone wants to chat about it add me on discord!

PP Man#0645

[Slade the Blade]

Here is my Computer Specs:

Hyte Y40 | MSI Gaming RTX 4090 | Ryzen 9 7900x | G.Skill DDR5-6000 32GB | Fractal Design Celsius 240mm | Thermaltake Tough-power GF3 1000W | Rog Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI

[Montana One-Six]

14 hours ago, Slade the Blade said:

Here is my Computer Specs:

Hyte Y40 | MSI Gaming RTX 4090 | Ryzen 9 7900x | G.Skill DDR5-6000 32GB | Fractal Design Celsius 240mm | Thermaltake Tough-power GF3 1000W | Rog Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI

How many cables are you using to connect GPU to PSU and how are they connected to the PSU?

Is your Memory OC/XMP/EXPO stable? Is the memory correctly installed (meaning correct solts for amount of dimms used)?

Have you tried running any benchmarks like 3DMark to see if any scores are off?

[Ebony Falcon]

How much is it dipping ? Like 20 fps then back up ? Or are u dropping to 50 fps then shooting back up to 150 ? 

[Slade the Blade]

On 5/15/2023 at 10:20 AM, Montana One-Six said:

How many cables are you using to connect GPU to PSU and how are they connected to the PSU?

Is your Memory OC/XMP/EXPO stable? Is the memory correctly installed (meaning correct solts for amount of dimms used)?

Have you tried running any benchmarks like 3DMark to see if any scores are off?

I have a Thermaltake Tough-power GF3 1000W that has the one cable connector.

 

My Ram is DDR5-6000, but runs at 4800, they are EXPO compatible, but when I turn it on. My computer crashes within 1:30min. They are installed in the correct Dimms.

 

Is there a free Benchmark Application that I can use?

[Slade the Blade]

On 5/16/2023 at 1:58 AM, Ebony Falcon said:

How much is it dipping ? Like 20 fps then back up ? Or are u dropping to 50 fps then shooting back up to 150 ? 

If i capp it it'll stay at 144hz 1440p easy, but every 5 seconds it drops down to single digits.

[CaptainQuirk26]

Honestly, I think unless someone else has some 400 IQ solution, I'd check your power supply and see if that's the problem.

[Montana One-Six]

11 hours ago, Slade the Blade said:

Is there a free Benchmark Application that I can use?

There is a 3D Mark Demo version for free on Steam.

 

 

Are your GPU drivers clean?

Has that system been used with a different GPU (that is not a 4090)?

Have you changed anything in the Nvidia control panel?

[Slade the Blade]

I have deleted my GPU drivers and redownloaded them. Then restarted and ran a benchmark. (below)

I had this issue and figured I would swap out a 3060 TI to test and see if the same stuttering happens. I fresh installed windows and tested with the 3060TI and the same thing happened. I put the 4090 back and reinstalled windows again.

No, I haven't touched the Nvidia Control Panel. I did try putting a 144hz cap on my fps cause that's my screen hz.

Thanks, I didn't know that 3D Mark had a Demo Version! 

 

 

After Running this benchmark, it seems my CPU is running at 95 Degree's I think I may need to get a better CPU Cooler?

Also, It seems that my GPU and CPU are clocking opposite to each other, and spike for unknown reasons.
If this benchmark gives some idea about the issue, let me know!
Thanks everyone!

[Montana One-Six]

2 hours ago, Slade the Blade said:

I have deleted my GPU drivers and redownloaded them. Then restarted and ran a benchmark. (below)

I had this issue and figured I would swap out a 3060 TI to test and see if the same stuttering happens. I fresh installed windows and tested with the 3060TI and the same thing happened. I put the 4090 back and reinstalled windows again.

You don't have to reinstall windows every time you switch GPUs. If you go from Nvidia to Nvidia just download the latest driver from Nvidias website and check the box clean install when installing. That should prevent 99% of issues and is from my experience enough but if that didn't do it use DDU. Either way is faster than installing windows all over again.

 

2 hours ago, Slade the Blade said:

After Running this benchmark, it seems my CPU is running at 95 Degree's I think I may need to get a better CPU Cooler?

Yeah something with your CPU isn't right it seems like from these graphs. I would check Hwinfo to confirm what 3D Mark is reporting is correct.

But seems like your CPU is at 95C which is kinda high for my taste but apparently is kinda how 7000 series is. Anyway I would check your cooler just to be sure:

 - Correctly mounted?

 - Enough mounting pressure?

 - Pump working correctly?

 - No air trapped in CPU block?

 

Its kinda hard to tell just from the picture but it seems like your GPU spikes after the CPU. The CPU also drops crazy in frequency which isn't really the way it should be and it seems like that is whats causing the GPU load to drop.

Right now looking at these graphs I think your issues are coming form the CPU side rather than the GPU side.

 - Bios up to date?

 - Did you do any changes in Bios?

 - Have you done any CPU only benchmarks like Cinebench?

[Mark Kaine]

On 5/18/2023 at 7:26 AM, Slade the Blade said:

I have a Thermaltake Tough-power GF3 1000W that has the one cable connector.

 

My Ram is DDR5-6000, but runs at 4800, they are EXPO compatible, but when I turn it on. My computer crashes within 1:30min. They are installed in the correct Dimms.

 

Is there a free Benchmark Application that I can use?

Firestrike demo on steam. 

 

 

[Slade the Blade]

On 5/21/2023 at 8:48 PM, Montana One-Six said:

Yeah something with your CPU isn't right it seems like from these graphs. I would check Hwinfo to confirm what 3D Mark is reporting is correct.

But seems like your CPU is at 95C which is kinda high for my taste but apparently is kinda how 7000 series is. Anyway I would check your cooler just to be sure:

 - Correctly mounted?

 - Enough mounting pressure?

 - Pump working correctly?

 - No air trapped in CPU block?

- Yes, I have tried reapplying thermal paste as well.

- How would I check if my pump is working correctly?

- Also how do I check for air trapped in the CPU block lol.

 

 

 

On 5/21/2023 at 8:48 PM, Montana One-Six said:

Its kinda hard to tell just from the picture but it seems like your GPU spikes after the CPU. The CPU also drops crazy in frequency which isn't really the way it should be and it seems like that is whats causing the GPU load to drop.

Right now looking at these graphs I think your issues are coming form the CPU side rather than the GPU side.

 - Bios up to date?

 - Did you do any changes in Bios?

 - Have you done any CPU only benchmarks like Cinebench?

 

- Yes, I have updated the bios.

- No, all defaults

- Here is a link to my Cinebench results.

http://www.3dmark.com/cpu/1258883

 

Thanks for the help! I really appreciate the advice!

 

[Slade the Blade]

Here's another benchmark.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/94726745?

[JonS77]

Sorry, I hven't read all the conversation until this point, but from your image at the first post it looks like you're hitting terrible low 1% that are absolutely not reasonable for that benchmark of Cyberpunk on even much cheaper builds. A video of that benchamrk would help identify it better.

 

But if I have to make a guess and since you've already done a fresh install of windows, this is not GPU related and you very clearly have a CPU problem on your hands. I don't see a record of temp monitoring in your first post or what CPU you've got. It could be overheating, or just a faulty CPU. could be having trouble with CPU power management. Whatever it is, it is your CPU. If it's a Ryzen CPU, I think CDPR had said before that both Cyberpunk and The Witcher have trouble with 7000 series CPUs and could stutter badly. If you've tried other benchmarks and are getting similar stutters or framedrops, then try your processor on some other MOBO. If you see the problem repeat, you have a faulty CPU that needs replacing.

[NekoBubbles]

GPU's and gaming its not always about what is the most powerful hardware but picking the hardware that has the highest chance to be well tested on that particular build format. As ultimately theres always a chance that on rare OP PC hardware there could be issues not tested by QA. Hence I'm always warry  of people who just race to the highest spec PC ethusiast builds cause. Often the most high end hardware also comes with a lot of bugs. Why  cause the most power PC parts often get a low QA testing due to low amount of their supply for QA to ya know test on. 

How do I know  you may ask that I know so much about QA well I QA tested the first COD warzone so I know what large scale testing is like and what hardware related bugs can be like. (and yes if you are wondering fps tanking and hardware related bugs are indeed giant cans of worms.) As it can be like looking down the endless libraries of code and assets to find what is causing the memory leak  FPS drops could be easily  also caused by an asset having a terrible compression for its shaders or textures. So always be a little warry of your set point view. There is always a solid chance in open world games that a particular view point is just a FPS "black hole"

[Slade the Blade]

I might just send my CPU to warranty. It is the only part I have not swapped out and tested.

[Montana One-Six]

18 hours ago, Slade the Blade said:

- How would I check if my pump is working correctly?

You could look at HWinfo for that or listen if the pump is working.

 

18 hours ago, Slade the Blade said:

- Also how do I check for air trapped in the CPU block lol.

Where is the radiator mounted inside the case? As long as the pump isn't the highest point of the AIO air shouldn't stay at the pump for too long.

 

18 hours ago, Slade the Blade said:

- Here is a link to my Cinebench results.

http://www.3dmark.com/cpu/1258883

Didn't know you can run Cinebench via 3D Mark. So I googled it and it seems like it is something from 3D Mark and not cinebench so it is kinda pointless as I don't know what numbers are good and what is bad for that CPU. Can you use Cinebench R23 and run the single threaded and multi threaded benchmarks and share your scores. Here the download link:

https://www.maxon.net/en/downloads/cinebench-r23-downloads

[Montana One-Six]

6 hours ago, Slade the Blade said:

I might just send my CPU to warranty. It is the only part I have not swapped out and tested.

If you switched everything but the CPU and you still have the same issues. It probably is the CPU.

[Mark Kaine]

The RAM sounds dodgy too tbh. 6000? as in MHZ?

 

2 sticks or 4?

 

 

edit: ok its either something with ur board or cpu most likely. 

 

 

RUN userbenchmark test, link results, don't ask, just do it.

 

Also do you have a FIRESTRIKE result?