Good enough airflow?

[Roland Daniel S.]

Disclaimer - No images, you'll have to try to understand through my description.

 

So for a new PC (for which I haven't bought the components yet), I'm stuck thinking about how airflow would work out.

I'm planning to get a Cooler Master MasterBox mb530P, which already has 3 120mm intake fans (for which I've looked up the model, and it says total airflow is 62cfm), and one 120mm exhaust fan at the back (which is a different model, it has 32cfm total airflow). Other than that, since my CPU will be liquid cooled, there will be a 240mm radiator at the top (the two fans on the radiator are the same model as the intake fans, but I assume they will move less air as they have to push it through the radiator). Would this be enough airflow? Would these be able to move the air out of the case fast enough? Also, would too much positive pressure build up?

(One action I might do is to buy a single one of the same fan model that comes with the case as intake fans and replace the weak default rear exhaust fan; but only if necessary, which depends on the answers I get)

[PcBeExpensive]

2 minutes ago, Roland Daniel S. said:

Disclaimer - No images, you'll have to try to understand through my description.

 

So for a new PC (for which I haven't bought the components yet), I'm stuck thinking about how airflow would work out.

I'm planning to get a Cooler Master MasterBox mb530P, which already has 3 120mm intake fans (for which I've looked up the model, and it says total airflow is 62cfm), and one 120mm exhaust fan at the back (which is a different model, it has 32cfm total airflow). Other than that, since my CPU will be liquid cooled, there will be a 240mm radiator at the top (the two fans on the radiator are the same model as the intake fans, but I assume they will move less air as they have to push it through the radiator). Would this be enough airflow? Would these be able to move the air out of the case fast enough? Also, would too much positive pressure build up?

(One action I might do is to buy a single one of the same fan model that comes with the case as intake fans and replace the weak default rear exhaust fan; but only if necessary, which depends on the answers I get)

no this should be fine, three intake fans and three exhaust fans. What GPU and CPU are you planning to run?

[jaslion]

Don't get the case. It's a bad case a derivitive design of their bad 200mm fan case with front acrylic.

 

 

[SorryBella]

2 minutes ago, Roland Daniel S. said:

No images

Any why? Its very easy to create a non-incriminating images of yourself on the internet if you try. But sure, here's my quick MS paint of what you described.

 

Just now, jaslion said:

Don't get the case. It's a bad case a derivitive design of their bad 200mm fan case with front acrylic.

Also, +1.

[Roland Daniel S.]

5 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

no this should be fine, three intake fans and three exhaust fans. What GPU and CPU are you planning to run?

i5-13500 and RTX 4070 (I know there will be some CPU bottleneck but I don't really care)

 

6 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Don't get the case. It's a bad case a derivitive design of their bad 200mm fan case with front acrylic.

 

 

Then what case would be recommended? (Requirements: Tempered glass panel; should be able to fit graphics card of about 340mm length;obviously, decent airflow; under $160; and optionally quiet but that's not that important)

[Roland Daniel S.]

28 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Any why?

I was and am on my phone and unable to be on PC for now. But well, since I'm not convinced that your drawing is the same as I described (or at least wanted to describe), I drew one on my phone. It's terrible, but I think it can be understood:

 

[SorryBella]

21 minutes ago, Roland Daniel S. said:

Requirements: Tempered glass panel; should be able to fit graphics card of about 340mm length;obviously, decent airflow; under $160; and optionally quiet but that's not that important

Lancool 216. All boxes ticked for $100.

 

1 minute ago, Roland Daniel S. said:

I drew one on my phone. It's terrible, but I think it can be understood

Yeah sounds about ideal, itll be fine. If your particular worry here is radiator issue then you could try to configure for push through the fins with the fans mounted to the front as an intake. But of course the massive disadvantage here is the fact that those dusts would cake in DEEP within the radiator fins even with dust filters.

[Roland Daniel S.]

50 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Lancool 216. All boxes ticked for $100.

Okay.. I may have said quiet is optional but what I've seen on the internet this one is straight up loud.

I'll be honest, I didn't think it through when I said it's optional, for some reason I only thought of like cases with sound dampening parts in them, and said it was optional because for the fans I know if I buy fans separately (if the recommended case had been with little to no fans) then I won't buy loud fans. Now of course I could just replace the fans in that one, but that would be a huge waste of money.

 

Other cases I've thought of (even before the lancool one) include the MasterBox TD500 Mesh V2, though that has weaker (but quiet) built in fans (about 48 cfm) in the front than the MasterBox MB530P (and those fans are relatively quiet too), but the TD500 Mesh V2 has mesh at the front which should improve the airflow I guess, but I don't know, I'm not very experienced in this.

[jaslion]

4 hours ago, Roland Daniel S. said:

i5-13500 and RTX 4070 (I know there will be some CPU bottleneck but I don't really care)

 

Then what case would be recommended? (Requirements: Tempered glass panel; should be able to fit graphics card of about 340mm length;obviously, decent airflow; under $160; and optionally quiet but that's not that important)

Phanteks p300 mesh? Budget friendly and good. Or if you want rgb the p400a digital is right there.

[Roland Daniel S.]

16 hours ago, jaslion said:

Phanteks p300 mesh? Budget friendly and good. Or if you want rgb the p400a digital is right there.

The p400a seems about ideal, but the only problem with phanteks cases is that I can't look up the exact specs of the fans (well, I have found 120mm phanteks argb fans but I can't be sure they use the same model in the case). I mostly check specs to know how loud the case fan would be, because I don't want the case fans to be the loudest part of my PC (most of the components I'm getting will be quiet: lc aio rated at 27dBA max, and the graphics card is a msi gaming x card so it should stay pretty quiet as well). If the case uses the same phanteks fans I found then it should also not be too loud (10-27dBA), so that case might actually be the right choice. I'll still look up more info about the case and phanteks fans, and if I end up actually going with it I'll mark your answer as the solution.

[Roland Daniel S.]

oh nevermind, there's no room for the 240mm radiator I'm getting (there's no radiator support on the top, and I'm not putting it in the front)

[jaslion]

28 minutes ago, Roland Daniel S. said:

well, I have found 120mm phanteks argb fans but I can't be sure they use the same model in the case)

They are they use the same fans they sell. You can also always just adjust the speed of em in bios

 

For top mount you can use the 011 mini offset aio kit.

 

Could also look at the bequiet pure base 500 fx if you want more rgb

[freeagent]

I have a Torrent Compact, might be a bit expensive, but the performance is.. impressive.

 

Before this case I had a Meshify C loaded with iPPC 3K fans.

[Roland Daniel S.]

22 minutes ago, jaslion said:

For top mount you can use the 011 mini offset aio kit.

Isn't that made for lian li cases? Would it work in a phanteks case? And even if it does, is it even a good idea? Just because I'd assume they didn't put top radiator support for a good reason.

 

24 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Could also look at the bequiet pure base 500 fx if you want more rgb

The case doesn't need to have rgb, the fans do. That's why other than the lack of top radiator support the eclipse p400a seems perfect.

[jaslion]

21 minutes ago, Roland Daniel S. said:

they didn't put top radiator support for a good reason.

Not really. They just didnt make the fan mounts near the glass panel thats all

 

Id opt for the bequiet if you want native support and a fun rgb case+fans

[Ralfi]

FYI, getting caught up in CFM stats isn’t placing your usage in a realistic scenario, as those figures are at MAX RPM which you’ll most likely won’t be running your fans at most of the time (or at all).

 

 

[Roland Daniel S.]

Okay - I might sound stubborn, but I think I'll stay with the masterbox mb530p for simplicity. Technically the original question has been answered as the layout should be fine.

Quoting the original question's answers:

On 4/27/2023 at 4:16 PM, SorryClaire said:

Yeah sounds about ideal, itll be fine.

 

On 4/27/2023 at 3:42 PM, PcBeExpensive said:

this should be fine

 

Ok now I'm not sure what to mark as the solution with this conclusion.

 

 

22 hours ago, Ralfi said:

FYI, getting caught up in CFM stats isn’t placing your usage in a realistic scenario, as those figures are at MAX RPM which you’ll most likely won’t be running your fans at most of the time (or at all).

 

 

Yeah but it still gives me an idea of the ratio between the fans' airflows. Or maybe it doesn't work like that, I don't know.

[TPCEA]

On 4/28/2023 at 7:56 AM, freeagent said:

I have a Torrent Compact, might be a bit expensive, but the performance is.. impressive.

 

Before this case I had a Meshify C loaded with iPPC 3K fans.

You... didn't recommend TR. I'm in shock.  

10 hours ago, Roland Daniel S. said:

Ok now I'm not sure what to mark as the solution with this conclusion.

Whichever was first.