Cable management help/tips?

[MattC231]

I have a Corsair iCUE 7000X case and installed 11 fans--7 Noctua NF-P14s redux and 4 Noctua NF-P12 redux. I got the Phanteks Halos Lux Digital for each, it look nice imo but later found out it is a nightmare cable managing it when daisy-chained. Are there any tips/recommendations to make this easier? Any improvements I can try?

[Inception9269]

Just do your best and accept the cold hard truth that it will never be good enough

[MattC231]

Yeah...your right

[TPCEA]

I have the 5000x. The cable management in the iCUE x series  leaves something to be desired... from the too-shallow back area, to the cables being pushed out so far due to the incorrect design of the cable channels making the velcro straps causing the mess of cables to bulge instead of flattening it, resulting in it being difficult to close the inner door (I put a neodymium magnet from a HDD where the hole that matches the standoff is), not to mention all the other challenges with them. Not familiar with those fans but where are the daisy-chained connectors located, and what kind(Molex, 3-pin, PWM)?

[MattC231]

3-pin connections 

[TPCEA]

3 hours ago, MattC231 said:

3-pin connections 

Are you daisy-chaining them behind the mobo tray, or near the fans?

[thrasher_565]

daisy-chained argb cables are only good if there short or have adjustable cables.

[TPCEA]

27 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

daisy-chained argb cables are only good if there short or have adjustable cables.

Huh? Those aren't ARGB - they are DC. Check out the connector in his first photo.

[MattC231]

i have them daisy-chained behind the mobo

[thrasher_565]

13 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Huh? Those aren't ARGB - they are DC. Check out the connector in his first photo.

huh thow are 3pin argb cables... 5v data and ground. using an 3 pin jst-sm connector

[TPCEA]

6 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

huh thow are 3pin argb cables... 5v data and ground. using an 3 pin jst-sm connector

Woah! This is the first I've ever heard that you can do that - thank you!

So, if I understand correctly, I can take a 3-pin JST-SM (not the 3-pin PWM) connector and use an adapter to connect it to an ARGB header. Right?

 

Or, get a non-PC-branded controller for far less, like this person's talking about.
 

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Anyone else notice that most PC enthusiasts are completely unaware of products that aren't produced and/or branded by a PC company e.g. corsair, phanteks, asus, etc? Instead of using your motherboard's addressable header (which btw, is complete BS that Asus, for example, uses a completely non-standard 4 minus 1 pin addressable connection instead of the industry standard and generic 3 pin JST connector like 99.9% of the led strips produced) you should consider using a NON PC brand digital controller to control your addressable RGB LEDs, that's what I do and there's numerous advantages. First, generic digital controllers are CHEAP starting at under $10. Second, they can control, even the cheapest ones, way, way more pixels than ANY addressable motherboard header in existence, usually they're able to control at least 2048 (that's right, two thousand forty eight) while the Asus header maxes out at 150 and I believe Gigabyte/Aorus is the most with a paltry 300 pixels. Third, they don't necessarily have to be powered off your PC's PSU, though they can be. Fourth, many allow for full software control through free, open source programs like LED Strip Studio 2, Chromation Systems ColorMotion v1 LED Control Software, GLEDIATOR, LED Strip Studio which are all 100% free, require absolutely no knowledge of programming, have easy to use graphical interfaces, and best of all, allow for many, many more control options than any motherboard manufacturer's proprietary software like Asus Sync, Gigabyte Fusion, Asrock Polychrome. The final, and perhaps the greatest advantage, is that by using a standard, non PC generic controlller, you can easily use addressable RGB strips that aren't branded by a PC company and therefore way, way more expensive for absolutely no reason. For instance, this Asus branded addressable strip is only 60cm long, and has only 30 or 60 LEDs/meter while costing $30 ( https://www.amazon.com/ROG-Addressable-LED-Lighting-addressable/dp/B07BQ2MSXC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1540133926&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+addressable+rgb+strip ), meanwhile, this addressable strip (which is what I have used) is 1 meter (100 cm) long, and has 144 LEDs/meter while being only $16, about half the price while have more than double the LEDs and 33% longer ( https://www.amazon.com/ALITOVE-Individually-Addressable-Programmable-Waterproof/dp/B019DYZNU0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1540134022&sr=8-4&keywords=144+addressable+rgb+strip ).

If You go with a generic controller and strips, you'll never have to worry about proprietary connections, being locked into some manufacturer's ecosystem, and then ripped off price wise after being locked in. You also get to use free software that allows for much greater control as well. Also, you then have the option to use exotic LED strips like I do, for example double and triple row strips, flexible "neon" strips which are housed in a translucent silicon tubing so that it acts to diffuse and eliminate hot spots and basically looks like a neon sign. Not sure if HTML markup is allowed, but I just ordered this:

Thanks again, dude!

[thrasher_565]

3 hours ago, RevGAM said:

Woah! This is the first I've ever heard that you can do that - thank you!

So, if I understand correctly, I can take a 3-pin JST-SM (not the 3-pin PWM) connector and use an adapter to connect it to an ARGB header. Right?

 

Or, get a non-PC-branded controller for far less, like this person's talking about.
 

Thanks again, dude!

no. the thing there talking about is not an argb fan but an argb fan grill that adds argb to non argb fans.

 

it has daisy-chained connector on it (2x 3pin jst-sm)

 

phantec uses the jst-sm 3 pin for there argb stuff.

 

Edited April 23, 2023 by thrasher_565

[TPCEA]

16 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

no. the thing there talking about is not an argb fan but an argb fan grill that adds argb to non argb fans.

 

it has daisy-chained connector on it (2x 3pin jst-sm)

 

phantec uses the jst-sm 3 pin for there argb stuff.

 

Yes, I know. I didn't say the fans.

[thrasher_565]

2 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Yes, I know. I didn't say the fans.

oh i think i miss read it sorry my bad...

 

the grill comes with the adapter to go form jst-sm to 3pin argb mb header.

 

connectors works like this. as long at it can suprt the vltage it need with out melting and proper wire gage. any connector can be used so long as the 5v gos to the 5v, data gos to the data, and ground to ground.

 

well all you really need is data to data and you can get power 5v/ground els ware like from the psu. this bypasses the mb header power limit. or you can buy hubs that do just that. hook sata or molex to it.

Edited April 23, 2023 by thrasher_565