Starting from scratch!

[irishbeast]

Budget (including currency): £1500

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Fifa, Cyberpunk, COD etc

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Being a complete idiot I sold my gaming PC before xmas for a pittance. Would cost £2400 to replace what i had. I don't want to spend that much though. 

 

CPU is proving tricky as I had a 5900X in my last one (complete overkill for gaming). MOt of the gaming machines I have seen see to have ryzen 3600s. I had one of those in my second rig. Will it still be okay to run alongside a 4070ti or 4080 or will it be a bottleneck? I would ideally like the 4080 as the 4k performance of the 4070ti is not great. However I need to consider cost.

 

The 4070ti seems to be branded as a 1440p machine but I really want proper 4k. Especially at that price. My old rig had a 3080 10 gig, with the 4070ti being only a slight improvement it would seem

 

I have always used AMD but am tempted by an Intel CPU. Does it make much difference?

 

Finally I would like a good PSU recommendation, especially if I go for a 4080. I have looked at the radeon cards but the nvidia ones seem better bang for buck

 

Any advice? Is the 4070ti a poor 4k experience in reality? Maybe I should wait till prices reduce and sell my xbox x that I bought in a moment of madess, also have a ps5!

 

Any advice welcome

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Better off buying a used 3090 as it has double the vram of a 4070ti, performance iirc is a tad worse but that doesnt matter when the 4070ti is kneecapped by a meager 12gb of vram compared to 24gb on the 3090, usually they go for around 570-650£ on ebay, remember miner gpus >>> gamer gpus because miners dont abuse the shit out of their gpus unlike games that choke them in hotbox cases, dont undervolt, let dust clog up the gpu, even smoking around the pc

 

Cpu wise a 13600k or 7700 are pretty good choices for gaming though the 7700 is alot more power efficient compared to a 13600k and iirc over in europe you guys have really high electricity prices

 

Psu wise any decent branded 850w will do, iirc corsair actually goes for a decent price over in the uk (tx750m, tx850m), just dont overspend for the psu

[PC HEROES]

32 minutes ago, irishbeast said:

Budget (including currency): £1500

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Fifa, Cyberpunk, COD etc

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Being a complete idiot I sold my gaming PC before xmas for a pittance. Would cost £2400 to replace what i had. I don't want to spend that much though. 

 

CPU is proving tricky as I had a 5900X in my last one (complete overkill for gaming). MOt of the gaming machines I have seen see to have ryzen 3600s. I had one of those in my second rig. Will it still be okay to run alongside a 4070ti or 4080 or will it be a bottleneck? I would ideally like the 4080 as the 4k performance of the 4070ti is not great. However I need to consider cost.

 

The 4070ti seems to be branded as a 1440p machine but I really want proper 4k. Especially at that price. My old rig had a 3080 10 gig, with the 4070ti being only a slight improvement it would seem

 

I have always used AMD but am tempted by an Intel CPU. Does it make much difference?

 

Finally I would like a good PSU recommendation, especially if I go for a 4080. I have looked at the radeon cards but the nvidia ones seem better bang for buck

 

Any advice? Is the 4070ti a poor 4k experience in reality? Maybe I should wait till prices reduce and sell my xbox x that I bought in a moment of madess, also have a ps5!

 

Any advice welcome

 

 

 

 

 

 

The 4080 in it's self is 90% of your budget just for the card.

[PC HEROES]

32 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Better off buying a used 3090 as it has double the vram of a 4070ti, performance iirc is a tad worse but that doesnt matter when the 4070ti is kneecapped by a meager 12gb of vram compared to 24gb on the 3090, usually they go for around 570-650£ on ebay, remember miner gpus >>> gamer gpus because miners dont abuse the shit out of their gpus unlike games that choke them in hotbox cases, dont undervolt, let dust clog up the gpu, even smoking around the pc

 

Cpu wise a 13600k or 7700 are pretty good choices for gaming though the 7700 is alot more power efficient compared to a 13600k and iirc over in europe you guys have really high electricity prices

 

Psu wise any decent branded 850w will do, iirc corsair actually goes for a decent price over in the uk (tx750m, tx850m), just dont overspend for the psu

I was able to come up with this...

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/pDWJcb

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£209.97 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£63.07 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£170.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£97.99 @ NeoComputers)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£88.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 319 Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£668.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Montech SKY TWO ATX Mid Tower Case  (£77.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A750GF 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£105.97 @ Novatech)
Total: £1538.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[Somerandomtechyboi]

3 hours ago, PC HEROES said:

I was able to come up with this...

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/pDWJcb

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£209.97 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£63.07 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£170.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£97.99 @ NeoComputers)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£88.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 319 Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£668.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Montech SKY TWO ATX Mid Tower Case  (£77.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A750GF 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£105.97 @ Novatech)
Total: £1538.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MTqNd9

13600k + used 3090 + 32gb dual rank hynix djr in 4x8 confg (should max gear 1 out at 4000-4200)

 

If you arent willing to tune the rams to 4000-4200 (simple as setting gear 1, loosening primaries 20-22-22-40, loosen twcl, raising imc volts, 1.4-1.5v vdimm, then tightening trfc trc trrd-l/s tfaw trcd and setting trefi to 111111) just buy a cheap 3200c16 or 3600c18 2x16 kit for 70£.   Cas latency does not do shit for ram performance thats why i prefer loosening it and twcl to lower voltage requirements (makes rams less volatile so if they get hot they dont crash, djr doesnt degrade with volt so thats not a worry) and thats also why 3600c18 outperforms 3200c16

 

Used 3090 seem to be around 600£ on ebay

 

Abit of leftover budget so you may wish to get a 13700k

 

 

Ryzen 5000 is viable for <1000$ but 13th gen or ryzen 7000 is better for builds above 1000$, and board wise b550 dont spend over 120$ especially when used b3/450 are like 60$ on classifieds sites like fb marketplace. Psu is a common thing to overspend on so beware of that, same thing for ssds since gen4 is mostly irrelevant for anyone that doesnt do r/w heavy stuff like video editing, only reason i go gen4 ssd would be price cause if its close enough to gen3 then why not (with exception of preffering dram gen3 over dramless garbage gen4 like sn770, nv2, mp600gs, etc.). Also going used can save a crapton of money especially for things like psus and gpus since theres lots of misinformation surrounding those (dummies that think mining shortens gpu life, psus only last 5 years, etc.)