Posted May 8, 2014 how much better is the i5 to the i3 Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/ Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 8, 2014 how much better is the i5 to the i3 For what use? If gaming, much much better, if your just web surfing not really a big difference? Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-1999961 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 8, 2014 For what use? If gaming, much much better, if your just web surfing not really a big difference? This. We need to know what you're going to be using it for. If it's just normal everyday tasks like sending and reading emails, browsing the web, the i3 would be better for the price. I like the color scheme of Noctua fans. Deal with it. Forget about the bad memories of the past. "wunder you really are as straight as a rainbow" - Lanoi "can I fisterino your nose" - WunderWuffle Forget about the bad memories of the past, take the good ones along with you through the present, and look forwards to the good things that will come in the future. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-1999969 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 8, 2014 Is the i5 a superior line of cpus? Yes it is. But is the upgrade justified? It depends on your use case. What do you plan on using your pc for? Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-1999984 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 8, 2014 Author i want to start gaming so i thought the i3 would be a good start Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2000006 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 8, 2014 i want to start gaming so i thought the i3 would be a good start i3 is a good start, with a mid end graphics card like the R9 270 it makes for a strong gaming rig on the entry level. LGA775 Overclocking Guide - LGA771 to LGA 775 mod - Rigs in spoiler - Subzero Overclocker - HWBOT - Sandybridge-E Frequency WR Holder Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2000011 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 8, 2014 i3's are a good entry level gaming cpu's. They give you the upgrade path to an i5 or i7 down the road if you want the extra horsepower (on the same socket, and likely architecture as well. Like if you got a Haswell i3, you could only get a Haswell i5 or i7). Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2000049 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 i want to start gaming so i thought the i3 would be a good start For gaming I would go for i5. If you like gaming in general, having bit more power feels better. You can up the gfx without lagging or other things related to CPU power. ^^^^ That's my post ^^^^ <-- This is me --- That's your scrollbar --> vvvv Who's there? vvvv Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2002388 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 For gaming, get at least an i5, with the way the games are going to be more and more multi-threadeda dual-core CPU no mather how good it is will most likely no longer cut it for most modern games by the end of this year... if you could go with an 8 thread capable CPU (Xeon 1230, core i7 or FX-83xx) it would be even better for gaming and multi-tasking. | CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING | CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 | | GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC | RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz | | Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 3 VR Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2002907 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 For gaming, get at least an i5, with the way the games are going to be more and more multi-threaded a dual-core CPU no mather how good it is will most likely no longer cut it for most modern games by the end of this year... if you could go with an 8 thread capable CPU (Xeon 1230, core i7 or FX-83xx) it would be even better for gaming and multi-tasking. The Xeon one is a steal. Price of an I5 while perform like an I7 System Spec: H87 mobo from Zotac, I3 4130, 4GB ddr3 1600mhz Cas 11, WD green 2TB all in side of a Cooler Mater Elite 120 Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2003707 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 The Xeon one is a steal. Price of an I5 while perform like an I7 i agree, Xeon 1230V3 is a good bang for the buck on intel's side, that's what i would get if i was to build a PC today...and if AMD would be out of FX-8320's of course... | CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING | CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 | | GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC | RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz | | Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 3 VR Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2003717 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 If you're in a pickle between the i3 and i5. I think your best bet is an FX 8320.It's only slightly more expensive than an i3 4330 but offers nearly twice the performance. And unlike the i3 it's completely unlocked so you can overclock to match an 8350 or even a 9370.http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8320+Eight-Corehttp://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4330+%40+3.50GHzFor most games either chip will be completely fine but for everything else the 8320 will be significantly faster. And in more modern titles like Crysis 3 or BF4 the 8320 is as fast as a 4670K. My build : Glamor Shot. Intel & AMD, Architectural Discussion. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2003977 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 Well most games don't need more than 2 cores but sometimes a i5 makes a difference because they tend to use a 3rd trashthread. K versions are only useful to bump the single core performance up thats all If you're in a pickle between the i3 and i5. I think your best bet is an FX 8320.It's only slightly more expensive than an i3 4330 but offers nearly twice the performance. And unlike the i3 it's completely unlocked so you can overclock to match an 8350 or even a 9370. A fx 4300 is just as good as a 8320 in nearly all games that gives us a choice between the i3 or 4300 which makes the i3 a nobrainer. A 8320 costs you 150$ and the cheapest board is 80$ and the i3 & a board costs you 150$ in total thats a 80$ price difference instead of getting that 8320; a locked i5 & H81 board is a much better value. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2004344 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 Well most games don't need more than 2 cores but sometimes a i5 makes a difference because they tend to use a 3rd trashthread. K versions are only useful to bump the single core performance up thats all A fx 4300 is just as good as a 8320 in nearly all games that gives us a choice between the i3 or 4300 which makes the i3 a nobrainer. A 8320 costs you 150$ and the cheapest board is 80$ and the i3 & a board costs you 150$ in total thats a 80$ price difference instead of getting that 8320; a locked i5 & H81 board is a much better value. Yeah but you're spending 80$ on a processor that can compete with the i7 and unlocked out of the box. No point spending less and upgrading in 6 months, the Fx 8320 is future proof. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2004375 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 No point spending less and upgrading in 6 months, the Fx 8320 is future proof. Its futureproof relies on games being heavily multithreaded which has been said since the beginning of bulldozer and we've only seen one game taking advantage of 8 cores like Crysis 3. Haven't seen a single game from the consoles that could push a 8350 to 100%. Even if they are, who says the extra cores are needed? Atm theyre outdated and have no futureproof in them if games don't evolve. No point buying AMD anymore these days unless you go APU, what you're going to do 6-7 years outdated IPC when you can buy a used nehalem for 50$ which is even faster in games? Yeah but you're spending 80$ on a processor that can compete with the i7 and unlocked out of the box. Yeah it could compete with the i7 in multithreaded tasks but singlethreaded it's not even a challenge. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2004443 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 Its futureproof relies on games being heavily multithreaded which has been said since the beginning of bulldozer and we've only seen one game taking advantage of 8 cores like Crysis 3. Haven't seen a single game from the consoles that could push a 8350 to 100%. Even if they are, who says the extra cores are needed? Atm theyre outdated and have no futureproof in them if games don't evolve. No point buying AMD anymore these days unless you go APU, what you're going to do 6-7 years outdated IPC when you can buy a used nehalem for 50$ which is even faster in games? Yeah it could compete with the i7 in multithreaded tasks but singlethreaded it's not even a challenge. Although Intel is undoubtedly better in single threaded performance, (ie most older and many current games, but new games may run better on AMD due to consoles having 8 cores) AMD is flat out awesome for anything that requires/likes more cores, like editing or 64 player Battlefield maps. Seeing as consoles have 8 cores, and devs will be forced to code for multiple cores, (because consoles' single threaded performance kinda sucks) I think AMD is a good idea because of this. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2004500 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 Although Intel is undoubtedly better in single threaded performance, (ie most older and many current games, but new games may run better on AMD due to consoles having 8 cores) AMD is flat out awesome for anything that requires/likes more cores, like editing or 64 player Battlefield maps. Seeing as consoles have 8 cores, and devs will be forced to code for multiple cores, (because consoles' single threaded performance kinda sucks) I think AMD is a good idea because of this. Which games currently take advantage of those 8 cores? Battlefield 4 doesn't, proved this long before. Thief doesnt, Assassins creed nope, elder scrolls online no way. No games that was ported from the console took advantage of 8 cores the only game atm is Crysis 3 (youtube crysis 3 fps boost he shows 100% loads) and thats not a ps4 port Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2004675 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 Which games currently take advantage of those 8 cores? Battlefield 4 doesn't, proved this long before. Thief doesnt, Assassins creed nope, elder scrolls online no way. No games that was ported from the console took advantage of 8 cores the only game atm is Crysis 3 (youtube crysis 3 fps boost he shows 100% loads) and thats not a ps4 port Watch Dogs will be one of the first, and it's just the beginning. By November this year all new AAA titles will be built for AMD 8 core CPUs and GPUs. in any logical manner it all makes sense. The AMD FX CPU's has many cores, which are weaker. Intel i5's has less cores, which are stronger. The intel's consequently have better performance per core. In older games, the intels perform much better as those games are optimised for good performance with only a few cores (single-threading). In newer games, the AMD FX's really shine due to the introduction of games using more cores (multi-threading). The difference comes in depending on what you want to use the PC for. If you're on a tight budget, save some money and go with the AMD and spend the extra money on a better GPU that will give you better performance than any CPU could. i5: Good for older games (single-threaded), Good for newer games (multi-threaded), Good for general work, great all-round CPU and probably the best around for current games (may change in future). AMD: Slightly worse for older games (single-threaded), Great for newer games (multi-threaded e.g. BF4, Crysis 3), Good for light/heavy work, extra cores are great for 3d modeling and video editing or rendering, great CPU whilst costing much less than the intel. Even though it's worse in older games it will run them perfectly well and smoothly. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2004711 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 I'm with amusedgoat on that, the games are evolving toward mutli-threading wheter you like it or not guys it's a given, and even in single-threaded games an FX 8 core CPU properly clocked perform to a very satisfying degree...there's no point in trowing more money for an intel CPU and there's certainly no point in buying a dual core CPU for gaming in 2014, that's just plain stupid. | CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING | CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 | | GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC | RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz | | Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 3 VR Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2004762 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 9, 2014 Watch Dogs will be one of the first, and it's just the beginning. By November this year all new AAA titles will be built for AMD 8 core CPUs and GPUs. in any logical manner it all makes sense. The AMD FX CPU's has many cores, which are weaker. Intel i5's has less cores, which are stronger. The intel's consequently have better performance per core. In older games, the intels perform much better as those games are optimised for good performance with only a few cores (single-threading). In newer games, the AMD FX's really shine due to the introduction of games using more cores (multi-threading). The difference comes in depending on what you want to use the PC for. If you're on a tight budget, save some money and go with the AMD and spend the extra money on a better GPU that will give you better performance than any CPU could. i5: Good for older games (single-threaded), Good for newer games (multi-threaded), Good for general work, great all-round CPU and probably the best around for current games (may change in future). AMD: Slightly worse for older games (single-threaded), Great for newer games (multi-threaded e.g. BF4, Crysis 3), Good for light/heavy work, extra cores are great for 3d modeling and video editing or rendering, great CPU whilst costing much less than the intel. Even though it's worse in older games it will run them perfectly well and smoothly. Watchdogs hasnt even been released and you claim its optimized for an octacore >.< The recommended requirements are always the latest cpu's out there, theyve been recommending 8350's for elder scrolls online as well but 8350's dont even do a hair better than 4300/6300's. I'm with amusedgoat on that, the games are evolving toward mutli-threading wheter you like it or not guys it's a given, and even in single-threaded games an FX 8 core CPU properly clocked perform to a very satisfying degree...there's no point in trowing more money for an intel CPU and there's certainly no point in buying a dual core CPU for gaming in 2014, that's just plain stupid. AMD is more expensive and a i3 currently wipes the floor with any FX cpu's for gaming in terms of value. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2004822 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 10, 2014 AMD is more expensive and a i3 currently wipes the floor with any FX cpu's for gaming in terms of value. Are you on crack? Serious question. The FX 8320 obliterates the i3 in everything from rendering to gaming. It is on par with i5 and can reach i7 levels with an overclock. The i3 is a little bitch in the corner whimpering and about to be obsolete in a few months time. https://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-3570k-vs-3770k-vs-3820-gaming-and-xsplit-streaming-benchmarks Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2005992 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 10, 2014 Are you on crack? Serious question. The FX 8320 obliterates the i3 in everything from rendering to gaming. It is on par with i5 and can reach i7 levels with an overclock. The i3 is a little bitch in the corner whimpering and about to be obsolete in a few months time. https://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-3570k-vs-3770k-vs-3820-gaming-and-xsplit-streaming-benchmarks Nope, we only have 2 games that take advantage of more than 4 cores which are Crysis 3 & Battlefield 4. There's no way 4 cores or 2 cores of a 8320 will outperform a i3. And linking teksyndicate makes you automatically wrong. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2006081 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 10, 2014 Nope, we only have 2 games that take advantage of more than 4 cores which are Crysis 3 & Battlefield 4. There's no way 4 cores or 2 cores of a 8320 will outperform a i3. And linking teksyndicate makes you automatically wrong. That's completely wrong, many games take advantage of more than 4 core, i'm playing max payne 3 ATM and it happily use 6 thread on my FX...even the new low tech motocross game MXGP is running 5 heavy threads, and i'm sure there are many more. | CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING | CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 | | GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC | RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz | | Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 3 VR Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2006117 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 10, 2014 That's completely wrong, many games take advantage of more than 4 core, i'm playing max payne 3 ATM and it happily use 6 thread on my FX...even the new low tech motocross game MXGP is running 5 heavy threads, and i'm sure there are many more. Because you see some activity doesnt mean its fully utilizing them. Learn how threads & processes work before you go out and make claims like this. Have a look here http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2281084 - a total of 30% so whats your point? Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2006160 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 10, 2014 The i5 is undoubtedly better with gaming, but to start out the i3 is a pretty good little CPU. Main rig on profile VAULT - File Server Spoiler Intel Core i5 11400 w/ Shadow Rock LP, 2x16GB SP GAMING 3200MHz CL16, ASUS PRIME Z590-A, 2x LSI 9211-8i, Fractal Define 7, 256GB Team MP33, 3x 6TB WD Red Pro (general storage), 5x 8TB WD White Label/Red (Plex) (both arrays in their respective Windows Parity storage spaces), 1TB Teamgroup MP33 (dumping ground) Corsair RM750x, TrueNAS Scale Sleeper HP Pavilion A6137C Spoiler Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHz, 4x8GB G.SKILL Ares 1800MHz CL10, ASUS Z170M-E D3, 128GB Team MP33, 1TB Seagate Barracuda, MSI GTX 970 100ME, EVGA 650G1, Windows 11 Pro OptiPlex 7040M Spoiler Intel Core i7 6700, 2x16GB Mushkin Redline (stuck at 2133MHz CL13), 240GB Corsair MP510, 2TB Seagate Barracuda 2.5", 130w Dell power brick, Windows 11 Pro Mac Mini (Late 2020) Spoiler Apple M1, 8GB RAM, 256GB, macOS Sonoma Consoles: Steam Deck LCD (512GB), Softmodded 1.4 Xbox w/ 500GB HDD, Xbox 360 Elite 120GB Falcon, XB1X w/2TB MX500, Xbox Series X, PS1 1001, PS2 Slim 70000 w/ FreeMcBoot, PS4 Pro 7015B 1TB, PS5 Digital, Nintendo Switch OLED, Nintendo Wii RVL-001 (black) Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/149637-cpu/#findComment-2006178 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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