5950x super high temps

[jkwilli]

In the past week I've been experiencing higher than average/normal temps while using my 5950X/1080ti gaming system. Under light gaming loads after a few hours of the system being on, sometimes it'll throttle like crazy and it's reading temperatures of 90°C and it's not even under stress, usually under 10% utilization. Sometimes it takes all day to happen and sometimes it won't even go into windows before shutting off because of over temp warnings. Just today it won't boot at all past bios,in fact it shuts down while in bios cause of said overtemp. I've tried 

-Checking all cables are plugged in

-Reseating CPU 

-Reseating cooler and applying new thermal paste 

-Feeling the tubes to see if coolant is flowing, one tube is warm and the other is cooler to the touch.

-Bios and HW monitors show the pump running around 3400 rpm so it says its working there too

 

Is there anything I missed that could be causing an overtemp? I recently upgraded from a 9700k system so I wasn't able to pull the cooler from their system since I don't have an AM4 bracket for it to test that or another CPU to see if the CPU is somehow faulty. I'm lost for words what is happening. 

 

Is it possible there could be an air bubble in the pump? I've tried methods to figure that out and was inconclusive 

 

My current system is as follows

-5950X

-Lian Li Galahad 240

 

The cooler should be more than sufficient, it was purchased last year by my father and I bought the system from him a couple of weeks ago

[problemsolver]

13 minutes ago, jkwilli said:

In the past week I've been experiencing higher than average/normal temps while using my 5950X/1080ti gaming system. Under light gaming loads after a few hours of the system being on, sometimes it'll throttle like crazy and it's reading temperatures of 90°C and it's not even under stress, usually under 10% utilization. Sometimes it takes all day to happen and sometimes it won't even go into windows before shutting off because of over temp warnings. Just today it won't boot at all past bios,in fact it shuts down while in bios cause of said overtemp. I've tried 

-Checking all cables are plugged in

-Reseating CPU 

-Reseating cooler and applying new thermal paste 

-Feeling the tubes to see if coolant is flowing, one tube is warm and the other is cooler to the touch.

-Bios and HW monitors show the pump running around 3400 rpm so it says its working there too

 

Is there anything I missed that could be causing an overtemp? I recently upgraded from a 9700k system so I wasn't able to pull the cooler from their system since I don't have an AM4 bracket for it to test that or another CPU to see if the CPU is somehow faulty. I'm lost for words what is happening. 

 

Is it possible there could be an air bubble in the pump? I've tried methods to figure that out and was inconclusive 

 

My current system is as follows

-5950X

-Lian Li Galahad 240

 

The cooler should be more than sufficient, it was purchased last year by my father and I bought the system from him a couple of weeks ago

 

TL;DR:  To me, it sounds like a cooler issue of some sort.

 

A couple of questions to consider (but it's the AIO that's the problem):

• Has it done this since you got it?
• Is it overclocked?
• Does it overheat if left on the BIOS screen?
• Have you verified that the pump really was running at 3400 rpms when it overheats?
  • The pump may not be staying at 3400 rpms
  • This is probably impossible to verify as folks on reddit seemed to have pump rpms that should have been fine, but the thing still didn't cool correctly

 

[jkwilli]

2 minutes ago, problemsolver said:

 

TL;DR:  To me, it sounds like a cooler issue of some sort.

 

A couple of questions to consider:

• Has it done this since you got it?
• Is it overclocked?
• Does it overheat if left on the BIOS screen?
• Have you verified that the pump really was running at 3400 rpms when it overheats?
  • The pump may not be staying at 3400 rpms

 

It has not, only recently within the past week or so. 

It is all stock and yes it overheats seconds into posting into BIOS

 

Unsure if it'll be possible to verify it's actually running at 3400rpm when it shuts off seconds into booting or throttling heavily if it's left off for a long period of time then turned on. Was gonna do tests with an air tower cooler(s) I have laying around the house...just don't have AM4 stuff around/lost to mount and test to see if it's a faulty CPU, which likely isn't the case given that it still boots into bios and sometimes windows if it survives 

[problemsolver]

Just now, jkwilli said:

It has not, only recently within the past week or so. 

It is all stock and yes it overheats seconds into posting into BIOS

 

Unsure if it'll be possible to verify it's actually running at 3400rpm when it shuts off seconds into booting or throttling heavily if it's left off for a long period of time then turned on. Was gonna do tests with an air tower cooler(s) I have laying around the house...just don't have AM4 stuff around/lost to mount and test to see if it's a faulty CPU, which likely isn't the case given that it still boots into bios and sometimes windows if it survives 

Ah, that's useful.  Sure sounds like you got a bad AIO like the folks I linked to on reddit... some even RMA'd the AIO and got a replacement that failed months later.  Any AM4 cooler is probably better than what you've currently got

[jkwilli]

Yeah with Dreamhack San Diego coming up very soon and sometimes it takes a month to get a replacement, I probably will just pull the trigger and get a new one. Never had a Lian Li till I got this system, if it's a indeed failed aio already not impressed...sure their rma system might be good. I've never experienced failed ones from Corsair. 

 

Which I assume the times it does work for a short period of time, the coolant isn't up to temperature so it hasn't had time to heat up to start causing problems?

 

I did forget to mention too, is it unusual for the cold plate to be super hot? Like after a few attempts to try and fix it then I take shit off, sometimes the coldplate is very warm to the touch

[Somerandomtechyboi]

9 minutes ago, jkwilli said:

Was gonna do tests with an air tower cooler(s) I have laying around the house...just don't have AM4 stuff around/lost to mount and test to see if it's a faulty CPU

You dont need mounting hardware for testing aircoolers cause you can just gravity mount by sticking it ontop the cpu, can verify that this works since ive done it on both a cheap 92mm chinese tower and a h212 (lost mounting hardware)

[BiotechBen]

34 minutes ago, jkwilli said:

In the past week I've been experiencing higher than average/normal temps while using my 5950X/1080ti gaming system. Under light gaming loads after a few hours of the system being on, sometimes it'll throttle like crazy and it's reading temperatures of 90°C and it's not even under stress, usually under 10% utilization. Sometimes it takes all day to happen and sometimes it won't even go into windows before shutting off because of over temp warnings. Just today it won't boot at all past bios,in fact it shuts down while in bios cause of said overtemp. I've tried 

-Checking all cables are plugged in

-Reseating CPU 

-Reseating cooler and applying new thermal paste 

-Feeling the tubes to see if coolant is flowing, one tube is warm and the other is cooler to the touch.

-Bios and HW monitors show the pump running around 3400 rpm so it says its working there too

 

Is there anything I missed that could be causing an overtemp? I recently upgraded from a 9700k system so I wasn't able to pull the cooler from their system since I don't have an AM4 bracket for it to test that or another CPU to see if the CPU is somehow faulty. I'm lost for words what is happening. 

 

Is it possible there could be an air bubble in the pump? I've tried methods to figure that out and was inconclusive 

 

My current system is as follows

-5950X

-Lian Li Galahad 240

 

The cooler should be more than sufficient, it was purchased last year by my father and I bought the system from him a couple of weeks ago

AIO's tend to die rather suddenly, not giving a lot of notice. Sounds like a failed pump to me. If it still has a warranty, RMA it.

[jkwilli]

Confirmed its the cooler. Did what someone mentioned above using gravity to weigh down an air-cooler. Getting temps of 52°C now in bios 

 

Excuse the ram speed....tried restarting bios earlier as a precaution too 

 

 

[jkwilli]

After sitting around a bit